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Militant antitheists and people who complain about them should call them antitheists, not atheists. Atheism doesn't at all imply a dislike of religion or religious people.

I was raised Catholic, but became atheist as I got more interested in physics and now I'm soon graduating, but I have no problem with people being religious. My lab partner is a Christian, but he's an intelligent person who understands everything we've been taught, lives by the scientific method and agrees with quantum physics, the big bang, natural selection etc.

I do have a problem when people protest or otherwise halt the progress of science because of their own indoctrination and stubbornness. Stuff like Young Earth creationism, which has tonnes of well documented evidence against it, and can be factually said to be incorrect.

But even then, watch Krokodil Tears by VICE, it's free online, about the misuse of a heroin knock off called Krokodil that's plaguing parts of Russia. In some of those places, religion is the only thing people have other than drugs. I don't mind people believing something that I don't believe in, if it's keeping them stable, happy and alive. Who cares what other people believe?
 

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Previously Calvinist, atheist for going on 28 years. I still read the Bible weekly (KJV) and join in with my Christian brothers for charity work when it's secular in nature. I don't fully understand how adults can justify god-belief, so I talk to religious people about it a fair amount, as respectfully as I can (respect is very subjective in this area.) I'm active in keeping church and state separate, for the good of the religious and the non-religious alike.
 

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After seeing this thread actually going pretty well, I am going to post my views.

I was actually raised by a non-practicing Roman Catholic family, who didn't really believe in forcing their views on people. In fact even as a child, I was not forced into anything I didn't want to be part of and even encouraged to explore and study regions to best understand them and possibly find my own. I have researched and read almost every religious book out there and even done countless interviews with people of those religions. For the most part I really saw the good in them as I saw the bad, but all and all started to see why some religions worked for some and not for all. Thus I did incorporate some parts of those religions into my philosophy, but overall I was basically an Atheist, with a bit of a twist. I did find one Philosophy that reflected me almost perfectly and that was LaVeyan Satanism.
Obviously I don't talk much about it because most people are scared away from the name and often misunderstand it.

But personally I find religion is a personal thing with a personal connection to everyone. I believe that all religions are as right as they are wrong, but the bigger picture isn't right or wrong, it's what works for you. I think that if believing in a God(s), spirits, ect. works for you and your not hurting anyone or forcing it on people, then more power to you. If you don't believe in anything and you are happy with your life and not forcing that on anyone, then more power to you as well. I personally think diversity is what makes everyone human and makes us all interesting and unique.
 

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there are plenty of atheists here who have nothing better to do with their sad, lonely lives...
I wouldn't limit it to only atheists causing the problem. Actually, a lot of the time it is people with certain beliefs who cause the trouble as they generally try to force it on other ot do whatever they can to prove that they HAVE to be right, and not just having a civil discussion about it. But I digress.
Previously Calvinist, atheist for going on 28 years. I still read the Bible weekly (KJV) and join in with my Christian brothers for charity work when it's secular in nature. I don't fully understand how adults can justify god-belief, so I talk to religious people about it a fair amount, as respectfully as I can (respect is very subjective in this area.) I'm active in keeping church and state separate, for the good of the religious and the non-religious alike.
Interesting. I remember reading a post of yours somewhere where you said something along the lines of, "I may not be pro religion, but I am pro people." Truth be told, this gave me the impression that you were completely against religion. My whole view of you has just been changed, possibly for the better :)
I also find it a little intruiging as I am a Calvinist.
 

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I'm a Christian. not much else to say, aside from the fact that I don't buy into literal 7-day creationism, or dismiss evolution, or take the Bible word for word without exception, or anything like that. I think people who equate their political beliefs with their religious beliefs (like most religious right wingers where I live) are ridiculous, and arguably dangerous.

Sorry my answer was kind of boring. :P
 

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I wouldn't limit it to only atheists causing the problem. Actually, a lot of the time it is people with certain beliefs who cause the trouble as they generally try to force it on other ot do whatever they can to prove that they HAVE to be right, and not just having a civil discussion about it. But I digress.
Good point. There are sucky people in just about EVERY religion or belief structure. The fighters and problem makers in threads like this always seems to be the ones who try to force their personal beliefs (and their stereotypes they have of other specific religions) onto other participants in the conversation.
People naturally then get defensive since religious beliefs are, by nature, so deeply felt and engrained ... and chaos ensues.
 

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I wouldn't limit it to only atheists causing the problem. Actually, a lot of the time it is people with certain beliefs who cause the trouble as they generally try to force it on other ot do whatever they can to prove that they HAVE to be right, and not just having a civil discussion about it. But I digress.

Interesting. I remember reading a post of yours somewhere where you said something along the lines of, "I may not be pro religion, but I am pro people." Truth be told, this gave me the impression that you were completely against religion. My whole view of you has just been changed, possibly for the better :)
I also find it a little intruiging as I am a Calvinist.
I wouldn't consider myself pro-religion at all. The people I work with (disaster work and equal rights issues mainly) do what they do because they are good people regardless of their religion. I have difficulty believing that religion in any sense makes one "good". It is my great hope that religion fades away, so bad people won't hide behind it, and good people won't be obscured by it. That's my assessment for now anyway, I strive to keep an open mind, and engage in civil discussion as often as I can.
 

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Me religion?

There's only one "God" and that's Me ;D

Jokes aside.
I'm an Atheist.
But I let people be what they want to be.
Christian, Satanist, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu or Rastafarian.
If their happy with their beliefs then they should.

The only thing I do have annoyances about are people that use religion as an excuse for violence or people that try to force religion upon others.
Other then that I'm perfectly fine with religious people.
Their people after all.


Edit:
To take an example, Castiel, a good friend of mine here on Temp is Christian.
He helped me when I was feeling down and said some things which where religious but very inspiring and good stuff to think about!

He also kept talking to me and treated me as a normal human being ;3 whilst most Christians wouldn't even dare to touch me with a 10 ft pole.


Another one, Catboy, who I see as a very good friend of mine.
He also treats me like a human being, and is extremely kind towards me ;3
Despite him being a Satanist, I don't see him as something completely different.
He also doesn't mind me being an Atheist.

Goes for show that you shouldn't judge people based upon religious views.
 

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I wouldn't consider myself pro-religion at all.
And just because your not pro-religion doesn't mean that you are completely against religion is what I was getting at. I initially took it that you were completely against religion, and I'm sorry for assuming that of you.
May I ask you a question? Why is it that you still read the Bible? Is it because you are searching for something, habit, because you enjoy the read, or something else?
(This convo can get moved to PM if need be).
 

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I have no religious beliefs because I am unaware of any reason to accept any religious supernatural claim. I am an atheist.
 

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And just because your not pro-religion doesn't mean that you are completely against religion is what I was getting at. I initially took it that you were completely against religion, and I'm sorry for assuming that of you.
May I ask you a question? Why is it that you still read the Bible? Is it because you are searching for something, habit, because you enjoy the read, or something else?
(This convo can get moved to PM if need be).
As for being against religion, that's for others to decide I guess, we could split hairs, but that would best be left to PM.

Bible reading, I do it for many reasons.. It's a good story book with many parables, and I use those stories when talking to Christians, as it's part of their culture and language. Also, since the reading of it is what helped me most in becoming an atheist, I encourage it's reading. It's kind of my passive way of helping people out of their religion without being disrespectful. Lastly, it helps to be familiar with it when so many use it to justify what seems to me to be very irrational beliefs. Some of those irrational beliefs are benign, but many are not, and I may be able to use their Bible as a way to dissuade them from harming others. It helps if you speak the language.

Feel free to PM me with further questions, I'm not on as often as I'd like, but I come around when I can.
 

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I'm a Christian. not much else to say, aside from the fact that I don't buy into literal 7-day creationism, or dismiss evolution, or take the Bible word for word without exception, or anything like that. I think people who equate their political beliefs with their religious beliefs (like most religious right wingers where I live) are ridiculous, and arguably dangerous.

Sorry my answer was kind of boring. :P
Christian. I dont shove my views down other people throats and im pretty ashamed of the name "Christians" are giving themselves these days. Im rather docile when it comes to that stuff, but I believe we should ALL GET ALONG.

Gay, race, whatever. Im called to love everyone. :D

I believe we are called Liberal/Moderate Christians.

I didn't understand the completely dismissal of a creator.

Everything would become subjective (do anything you want to) and may possibly make everything
ultimately pointless.

Are we made here by chance/accident?
 
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