US congress repeal internet privacy laws

[Veho]

And Congress and all politicians in DC can go stick a wire brush up their ass

Incidentally, that's what the ISPs are going to do to their customers now

 

[the_randomizer]

Incidentally, that's what the ISPs are going to do to their customers now

Well, NSA and other agencies has been spying on its citizens anyways, you know to "counter terrorism", so *shrug*. Just another reason to flip my finger off at the government. There were things I hated in the last administration, and there are things I hate in this one, no presidency is absolutely flawless, I just want to tell the powers that be where to stick it. That said, we're not totally helpless, people here need to write their congressmen, senators, etc, to let them know. Sitting here won't get anything done XD

 

[TotalInsanity4]

That said, we're not totally helpless, people here need to write their congressmen, senators, etc, to let them know. Sitting here won't get anything done XD

Amen to that. That's the reason we're not currently under the rushed bs that would have been "Ryancare"

 

[the_randomizer]

Amen to that. That's the reason we're not currently under the rushed bs that would have been "Ryancare"

Still, I will say that no matter which political party majority is in power, no one would ever be placated or feel satisfied; it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. That said, there's already been supposed spying on of the NSA to "curtail terrorism on the internet' which I think is an asinine pretense IMO. I detest politics.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Still, I will say that no matter which political party majority is in power, no one would ever be placated or feel satisfied; it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. That said, there's already been supposed spying on of the NSA to "curtail terrorism on the internet' which I think is an asinine pretense IMO. I detest politics.

Even so, monitoring on a government level is nowhere near as bad as sharing and profiting on a business level. It's just as morally wrong, but it's like the difference between opening and reading someone else's mail vs sending it straight to the copiers and selling it to the highest bidder

 

[KingVamp]

You mean great things like deporting the husband of a Trump voter?

If true, pretty funny, considering people keep saying illegal people voted for Hillary.

Anyway, I would be surprise, if Trump actually denied this bill.

 

[the_randomizer]

Even so, monitoring on a government level is nowhere near as bad as sharing and profiting on a business level. It's just as morally wrong, but it's like the difference between opening and reading someone else's mail vs sending it straight to the copiers and selling it to the highest bidder

So what do you propose we do then? We can't just sit here and take this bullshit from the government, no? We have to take a stand against Congress somehow.

 

[grossaffe]

So what do you propose we do then? We can't just sit here and take this bullshit from the government, no? We have to take a stand against Congress somehow.

 

[the_randomizer]

I don't want to go that far and cause an insurrection, but we do have means of communicating with senators and other state officials. I already contacted my state rep last night via email, I can contact others too if need be. People need to do the same, just sitting here and blindly accepting our fate is so 1984 lol.

 

[grossaffe]

I don't want to go that far and cause an insurrection, but we do have means of communicating with senators and other state officials. I already contacted my state rep last night via email, I can contact others too if need be. People need to do the same, just sitting here and blindly accepting our fate is so 1984 lol.

Aww, you're no fun!

 

[the_randomizer]

Aww, you're no fun!

*Sigh* Sorry, been feeling a lot of anxiety lately, I haven't been myself at all

 

[jimbo13]

I love when people were okay with all this when their partisan representation was doing this yet are suddenly outraged.

Google does this and has been.
Facebook does this and has been.
The NSA and various government institutions does this and has been.

Now ISP's are simply added to the list and everyone acts like it's fucking anarchy.

Joe Biden was one of the worst offenders in history as far as being anti-tech freedom.

 

[the_randomizer]

I love when people were okay with all this when their partisan representation was doing this yet are suddenly outraged.

Google does this and has been.
Facebook does this and has been.
The NSA and various government institutions does this and has been.

Now ISP's are simply added to the list and everyone acts like it's fucking anarchy.

Joe Biden was one of the worst offenders in history as far as being anti-tech freedom.

So you're saying we shouldn't be running around in a panic over this? Or that we should stand against it?

 

[jimbo13]

So you're saying we shouldn't be running around in a panic over this? Or that we should stand against it?

I see the bill as a immediate net change of Zero & potential boon stripping the power of a appointed regulatory body and maintaining said authority by elected legislators.

I view the real threat to privacy is a lot of simple partisan hacks logged in to Facebook/Google who needed an excuse to bitch about a 70 year old man whose tech priorities legislatively/aptitude is near none.

And since so many made it a partisan issue, Trumps record on guarding liberty on the internet is already better than MPAA/RIAA Biden & Barack "I am giving the names registry to the UN" Obama when Trump killed the TPP. In fairness Trump had little interest knowledge of that happenstance, but the TPP going down in flames was the biggest victory for safe guarding the internet in the last 20 years.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I love when people were okay with all this when their partisan representation was doing this yet are suddenly outraged.

Google does this and has been.
Facebook does this and has been.
The NSA and various government institutions does this and has been.

Now ISP's are simply added to the list and everyone acts like it's fucking anarchy.

Joe Biden was one of the worst offenders in history as far as being anti-tech freedom.

Google collects Google related info. You do not need to use Google
Facebook collects Facebook related info. You do not need to use Facebook
Your ISP, if this passes, can collect and sell EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ONLINE.

You know that whole "Trump being surveilled" thing that everyone's blowing their collective asses out over? Yeah, if Trump signs this into law he can do that. Anyone can do that.

Imagine a company buying your online search history before you go into a job interview
Hell, imagine your mother buying your search history
Imagine "the media" buying chat logs/emails of politicians on the campaign trail
Imagine companies putting up bids for communications for competition's products
The list could go on and on

 

[jimbo13]

need to use Google
Facebook collects Facebook related info. You do not need to use Facebook
Your ISP, if this passes, can collect and sell EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ONLINE.

It does not approve of any such thing. It's repealing a regulation that is 4 months old, 81 Fed. Reg. 87274 December 2, 2016.

What was stopping them prior to December '16? The countless other regulations, state & federal laws.

This has nothing to do with law in practice, it has to do with whether the FCC is going to regulate this shit or legislators.

In practice, FCC regulations would bar/nullify state and local regulations, which may end up being harsher than whatever appointed shill happens to be running the FCC at the moment.

Those accountable to an electorate are usually a little more on the ball than an appointee IMO. Not always, but there are better mechanisms for dealing with them.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

It does not approve of any such thing. It's repealing a regulation that is 4 months old, 81 Fed. Reg. 87274 December 2, 2016.

What was stopping them prior to December '16? The countless other regulations, state & federal laws.

This has nothing to do with law in practice, it has to do with whether the FCC is going to regulate this shit or legislators.

In practice, FCC regulations would bar/nullify state and local regulations, which may end up being harsher than whatever appointed shill happens to be running the FCC at the moment.

Those accountable to an electorate are usually a little more on the ball than an appointee IMO. Not always, but there are better mechanisms for dealing with them.

Tell me why it wouldn't be a good idea for the FCC to regulate Internet privacy, rather than out-of-touch congresspeople?...

 

[jimbo13]

Tell me why it wouldn't be a good idea for the FCC to regulate Internet privacy, rather than out-of-touch congresspeople?...

The FCC's history as an institution of censorship aside it is matter of opinion, I prefer elected bodies the more local the better regulating these matters as opposed to a cable industry (NCTA) lobbyist like Tom Wheeler who Obama appointed Or Michael Powell (NCTA Lobbyist) appointed by 'W. The fact the FCC makes arbitrary decisions by definition while the congress and senate are bound to process is well beyond the scope of the topic.

But that is the purpose of the bill, deciding whether it will be the FCC or will cede to state and federal law passed through due process, it's a four month old regulation that is simply being repealed as a mandate to the FCC that they aren't being appointed arbiter of the ISP's as Obama wanted.

 

[the_randomizer]

Google collects Google related info. You do not need to use Google
Facebook collects Facebook related info. You do not need to use Facebook
Your ISP, if this passes, can collect and sell EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ONLINE.

You know that whole "Trump being surveilled" thing that everyone's blowing their collective asses out over? Yeah, if Trump signs this into law he can do that. Anyone can do that.

Imagine a company buying your online search history before you go into a job interview
Hell, imagine your mother buying your search history
Imagine "the media" buying chat logs/emails of politicians on the campaign trail
Imagine companies putting up bids for communications for competition's products
The list could go on and on

So what the hell do we do, do we all go to VPNs, and other potentially shady/illegal methods to circumvent ISPs collecting data? I can say to Comcast, "go to hell" and they can't do anything about it. I hate the government, esp. big government like this. Because right now, it's probably inevitable that it'll be signed in to law, despite how many times we write our congressmen, gah, I just want to scream in their faces. Fucking stupid politicians.

 

[grossaffe]

So what the hell do we do, do we all go to VPNs, and other potentially shady/illegal methods to circumvent ISPs collecting data? I can say to Comcast, "go to hell" and they can't do anything about it. I hate the government, esp. big government like this. Because right now, it's probably inevitable that it'll be signed in to law, despite how many times we write our congressmen, gah, I just want to scream in their faces. Fucking stupid politicians.

Remember remember, the fifth of November.