How to Mario kart like a BOSS...

So...nephew and niece came over for (after)Christmas. Ages respectively 4 and 6. We played Mario kart 8 on the wiiu. Or at least attempted. Honk if this sounds familiar...

Me: *hands controller over to everyone*
Me: okay...let's start a race. Just some basic options (*selects multiplayer, grand prix, 50CC race *). Now click this button *points at A* to join. :)
Nephew(4): ...but I want to play Mario. :(
Me: sure. :) here...*gently turns wiimote back to the correct position, because he had them turned over from how I gave it to him* If you now press this button here you can...
Nephew: ...but I want to play Mario. :(
Me: w...yes. You press these buttons. And then...see? You're the red cross on the screen. You go all the way to the left and above. There: now you've got Mario selected. :)
Nephew: ...but I want to play Mario! :( *almost begins to cry*
Niece: I don't like this vehicle. I want another vehicle.
Me: in a second. First we select the person you want to play with. Is this okay for you?
Nephew: ...but I want to play Mario! :sad:
Me: *avoids grinding teeth* you ARE playing as Mario. :(
Me: *reaches over and presses 'ok' again on all controllers*
Me: okay...now you select your car by pressing these buttons *gestures to 'up' and 'down'*
Niece: ...but I don't like this character. :(
Me: ... :glare: *reverts back to previous screen, presses 'ok' for me and nephew, she selects Peach*
Me: ahem...okay...again: which car do you pick? *quickly picks the first car he sees*
Niece: *gets the idea, but is curiously pondering over EVERY SINGLE CAR*
Nephew: I don't like this car. :sad:
Me: okay...you want this one?
Nephew: no.
*repeat the above two seemingly infinite amount of times*
Nephew: (as if nothing happened) I want the car she uses. :(
Niece: *has finally decided on a kart*
Me: *finds the same car...but it's in a different color* Is this okay? :)
Nephew: yes.:(
Me: okay...so...just press okay to...
Niece: I want different tiers! *starts selecting the color tiers as well*
Nephew: I don't like these tiers. :sad:
*repeat some more*
*repeat some more AFTER THAT with the kite to select*
Me: so...we take these races. Okay?
Niece: but I don't know these races!
Nephew: I want a race with monsters!
Me: *starts first race regardless*

The race is a classic 12-person race with the AI occupying 9. Niece is...okay for her age, I guess. She sorts of grasps using weapons/boosters, but forgets them immediately. Nephew(again: 4) on the other hand:
Nephew: *turns right...drives straight into the wall*
Me: *trying not to show that he's intentionally driving much slower* Hmm....
Nephew: *turns around, gets a joy from the "turn around" signal and the turtle that puts him back on track* :)
Niece: *seemingly avoids all boosters and weapons, but at least drives*
Nephew: *manages to drive himself in a corner* MY CAR WON'T DRIVE ANYMORE!:cry: *Mario grinding, attempting to drive into the wall at full force*
Me: ermmm...
11 months old daughter in the background: *slowly but methodically creates a block tower of FOUR ENTIRE BLOCKS all by herself! :D*
Me: (at daughter) awww...bravo <name daughter>. Well done. :D
Me: *to nephew* erm...you might want to turn around? *gently nudges wiimote sideways so he at least isn't facing the wall anymore*
Nephew: *is having more fun, despite turning and shaking the wiimote more than a barman shaking a cocktail*
Me: ey, niece...get back on the seat properly, will you? :(
Niece: *sat on the couch on her knees, but so absorbed in the race that she's about to fall off, faceplanting the floor*
Niece: *begrudgingly takes a less dangerous stance on the seat*
Nephew: *has found a new goal: drive in all the ravines possible*
Niece: am I first?
(note: neither can properly read at this point, and their English is also absent. But she can sort of make out numbers)
Me: no...you're seventh at this point. See the number seven there? Oh...eight now. Keep driving. :)
Me: *tries to snipe other racers and bump them off the road, in an attempt not to completely wipe the floor with them*
Nephew: *stuck on repeat: drive off into the ravine, get picked up and placed back on tract, drive off into the ravine again*
Niece: *finishes last lap*
Me: *somewhat drives back and forth, trying to avoid the fact that I'm stalling*
Nephew: *still on his second lap (of tree)...still happily drives into EVERY RAVINE HE SEES*
Niece: Am I first? :)
Me: no...you finished 9th.
Niece: ah...*continues driving...even though it's just a rail on repeat because she already finished*

*insert more infinity*
Nephew: *FINALLY drives over finish*
Game: *shows score*
Niece: hey! I can't see where I'm driving! :(
Me: it's okay...we go to the next race.
*repeat all this three more times*



We played two times. The second time was barely easier selecting everyone their gear. On top of that, nephew AFTER ALL THE SELECTING wanted a sleeved controller (meaning: mine), so we repeated that once again.
The both most bitter and most hilarious thing that at one point we played a Bowser's mansion race. This was more winding and curling than most races we've played thus far (and...Mario kart 8 is perhaps not the best first racer in that regard). But for some reason, nephew felt much more at home here. Not only did he not constantly ram into every wall, but he even passed some computer enemies.
Niece, on the other hand, was having much more problems with the race. Up to the point that at one point, nephew PASSED HER (this was, incidentally, the best position he'd been in in all the gaming). Before that, she was a pretty decent young gamer. But at that point, her mood IMMEDIATELY turned. Her mother (my sister-in-law) tried to comfort her, saying that she could do it. She insisted she couldn't. So when nephew passed her, she immediately dropped the wiimote and went elsewhere.

So...gaming with kids is awesome. But...you really need some patience with them. :P
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Yeah, this sounds familiar.
If you have young'uns over, I find it's better to play some games with less action, like Snipperclips or Mario Party. Mario Kart sort of forces you to keep going at a steady pace if you don't want to be last and leaves little to no room for thinking or getting the grasp on controls.
If all else fails, just play board games.
 
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Learning how to play video games is not easy and requires constant repetition and patience (from the kid). Four years is pretty young for attempting Mario Kart. That said, it is very hard to develop such skills nowadays. With the abundance of entertainment electronics, the mass of possible activities that exist thanks to small and large screens everywhere, it is hard to focus on one.

Going back to my own childhood it was different: Classic TV → That was it… Until I got the Game Boy at the age of six (and two years later the SNES). But I did not have many games back then. Not only were there fewer games, the carts were so expensive we could not afford to buy one on regular basis. I got Tetris and I could learn how to play Tetris… or put the Game Boy away because of failing to master it after three attempts.
(Kara is not my real name either, but the second nickname I use other than Sina/Sinchen)
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Surely not a record, but not easy on the classic Game Boy Tetris with its somewhat unresponsive controls. (Got over 1,000,000 points on Tetris Deluxe which stops getting faster at level 30 – then I had enough and lost on purpose).

Many kids today: "Game sucks." (after losing two or three times) "Want another one." The mass of (mostly bad) games funded by advertising and/or in-app-purchases on Android or iOS devices is overwhelming and can spoil a child in a really bad way and can make them permanently unable to focus on something.


To get familiar with the controls: Solo race / time trial. At least don't have AI opponents at the beginning.
A six year old girl should be able to learn Mario Kart 8 on easy difficulty pretty quickly (it's waaay easier than Super Mario Kart SNES). I guess even the easiest difficulty is too much for a four-year-old (if not a natural talent). Pretty early to start gaming.
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Anyway:
Congratulations for your patience. I got mad from just reading this: "Just choose a d*mn character and a f…ing vehicle! It's not that important."
 
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"Just choose a d*mn character and a f…ing vehicle! It's not that important."
This^

I never really let small kids play on me consoles/handhelds.
Something will break when they handle it.
 
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At that age I was already playing Street Fighter II, Super Mario World, DKC and StarFox... mind you, got to Vulture Culture all by myself and occasionally beaten my father with Dhalsim :creep:

I can still remember that for a fact because momma would let me play the SNES while she took my older sisters to Primary and Secondary school... I also played the SNES Pinocchio game and always got to the whale part all by myself.

I too have nephews (but not nieces) and always handed them unconnected controllers while I played. That's something that was done to me when I was 2 (and father said I had lots of fun thinking I was playing)

Makes me wonder what's wrong with new generations :unsure:
 
@smileyhead: it's what they were familiar with (well...not the same mario kart, but a similar one). I should perhaps try out mario party and/or wii party. But remember: they can't read yet nor (properly) understand English.
Board games is what we've attempted to do thus far. The thing is: they consider the components to be toys rather than a means to play a game (let alone the concept of a 'winner'). Playing 4-in-a-row with said nephew is almost creepy: he is oblivious to the concept of the game. It's just the practice of, in turn, shoving coins in the device.
(note: I was anticipating the game L.A.M.A. for Christmas to play with them. But due to covid, the big family gathering is canceled and opening the presents is on a spread basis. Perhaps that'll work out better for them)

@KleinesSinchen yeah...that's certainly going to be a problem for them. Just today, I heard from my mother that at least niece spends too much time on her tablet (not sure if that's "hers" or that her parents allow her to play it for some time). My brother asked me to hack their wii, and I warned him against allowing too many games at once (which would diminish the time spent per game). I'll see how I can fix that. And that is assuming I even manage to get their wii over here somewhere in the near future (it'll take me a while, and that'll be some days they're going to have to miss it...).

Also...with them eager to start racing, I had forgotten to check in advance how to set things up so it was "just" us racing instead of a roster of 12. But I don't think they were bothered by the other racers.

@DinohScene : I can understand that feeling, but wiimotes are what...25 bucks nowadays? I won't let them touch the wiiu tablet thingy, but I don't see how they can break the console when waving the wiimote in...unexpected ways. :P

@JuanMena my brother and me got into a discussion on when we got our gameboy (which must've been our first real gaming device). I was 8 around launch day, and we didn't got it much later. But I always felt like we had it like forever...:unsure:
 

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