Hacking Emulation Homebrew Could you explain to me why there are no standalone emulators on Wiiu using aroma?

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I wanted to understand why there are no standalone emulators for the WiiU in Aroma, the Wii U virtual console works very poorly and it's not even worth doing a Rom Inject in my humble experience and the console doesn't even have ports of some emulators, since it It would have the power to emulate even the PSX/N64.

A guy told me that I could simply use the Vwii and use Wii emulators, but man I'm asking precisely because I wanted to use the 1080p output of the Wii U itself for this, if I use the Vwii it's in 480i and it looks very ugly on TV.

(Don't tell me to emulate on a PC, I'm just trying to understand if it's something related to the Wiiu hack, programming, lack of interest or whatever reason.
 
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Maybe because no one think it worth the effort/Too few users?
There is retroarch on Wii U btw, though not running under Aroma atm.
 
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Why are Brazillians always this snubby when it comes to video games. You would think not being able to affort games would humble some people but... Apparently not.
 
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New to the scene? Standalone emulators native to the Wii U have simply never really been a thing outside of a few outlierslike the PSP. Fortunately plenty of vWii standalone emulators can be turned into Wii U channels complete with Pro Controller and Gamepad compatability. Sure, you don't get to upscale to 1080p, but the likes of the NES, SNES, GB/C, GBA, N64, PS1, Genesis, Master System, etc. were never meant for HD resolution to begin with. So really the only real detriment is the additional few seconds it takes to load a vWii homebrew inject from the Wii U side of the console. Nothing to really complain about, though I would love to see more native to the Wii U hardware single system emulators all the same. Still, between the great vWii emulators, the few Wii U built emulators like PPSSPP, and Retroarch to cover the rest (even if you have to boot into Tiramisu instead of Aroma to access it), I'm personally finding nothing to actually be upset about here.
 
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Simple answer, not enough interest/challenge by the hacking community, maybe it has something to do with the fact creating WiiU VC is rather easy plus the Wii U is backwards compatible with the Wii and its homebrew.
 
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wolf-snake said:
Why are Brazillians always this snubby when it comes to video games. You would think not being able to affort games would humble some people but... Apparently not.
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Games are not cheap in my country but I still insist on paying for them, it's not a question of being a snob, you crazy person, but a sincere doubt about emulators jailbreaking the console using the aroma version, I didn't ask the question in bad taste or with the intention of pirating Wiiu games that I can easily buy if I want, but just to understand why there are no standalone emulators for the console without using retroarch.
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V10lator said:
Because you didn't code them!
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If I knew how to program, you can be sure I would be doing this, friend.
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Evilengine said:
Aroma came rather late in the console's lifecycle. I guess at one point compatible emulators will be released, since there are a number of people dedicated to Wii U still. If emulation is really your main use you can change back to Haxchi, etc?
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues/14429
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I use my old Wii to emulate old consoles, I even jailbroken it just for that and I recently acquired a Wii U and I thought it would be cool to let my new emulation center be used in the living room, you know, I didn't know what the console scene was like in that aspect and When researching I saw that there was only the emulator retroarch, but to be honest I prefer standalone emulators. I'll look into Haxchi and thanks for the link!
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Ettino said:
Use a PC to emulate them roms. :creep:
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It really is a better experience but I like playing in the living room and I haven't had the opportunity to build a mini PC just for that yet, but it's on my list.
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sonictopfan said:
Simple answer, not enough interest/challenge by the hacking community, maybe it has something to do with the fact creating WiiU VC is rather easy plus the Wii U is backwards compatible with the Wii and its homebrew.
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Yes I agree. But there are limitations when using the vwii, the biggest example is the resolution that using an emulator of the Wii u itself would be an absurd improvement, at the moment I'm using the vwii with the 480p mod but it still doesn't take advantage of the wii u being 1080p .
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New to the scene? Standalone emulators native to the Wii U have simply never really been a thing outside of a few outlierslike the PSP. Fortunately plenty of vWii standalone emulators can be turned into Wii U channels complete with Pro Controller and Gamepad compatability. Sure, you don't get to upscale to 1080p, but the likes of the NES, SNES, GB/C, GBA, N64, PS1, Genesis, Master System, etc. were never meant for HD resolution to begin with. So really the only real detriment is the additional few seconds it takes to load a vWii homebrew inject from the Wii U side of the console. Nothing to really complain about, though I would love to see more native to the Wii U hardware single system emulators all the same. Still, between the great vWii emulators, the few Wii U built emulators like PPSSPP, and Retroarch to cover the rest (even if you have to boot into Tiramisu instead of Aroma to access it), I'm personally finding nothing to actually be upset about here.
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Yes, I'm using the vwii for this but as you mentioned and that's what I thought would gain an advantage with the wii u would be having emulators on better hardware and the resolution being 1080p, I should have researched more about the gaming scene Wii U emulators, but it's not something that causes me any problems, just a question.
 
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What old consoles do you want to emulate exactly? Cause VC is good for many consoles, only N64 is a bit bad and IIRC SNES games needing some expansion chip won't work.

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I'll look into Haxchi and thanks for the link!
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Do not go to Haxchi but stay on Aroma. There's no benefit in switching to obsolete CFWs. If you want RetroArch just use a dualboot setup with Tiramisu.
 
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the aroma is still very new so I say it's better to have both (Aroma/Tiramisu)
the simple fact that retroarch or other emulators do not work on aroma is because aroma has a different type of architecture that does not accept fake .rpx files or .elf files having its own (wuhb) different from tiramisu which works with legacy and any .rpx works

to have these emulators in aroma they would have to be redone to the format that aroma accepts whub or an rpx with this support real values just like that

so use tiramisu for native emulators on wii u

with aroma, virtual console injects emulators and Wii injects emulators will only work
 
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LittleCherry said:
Yes, I'm using the vwii for this but as you mentioned and that's what I thought would gain an advantage with the wii u would be having emulators on better hardware and the resolution being 1080p, I should have researched more about the gaming scene Wii U emulators, but it's not something that causes me any problems, just a question.
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there are aroma plugins to enhance the vwii experience IIRC wiivc launch for aroma allows you to change the vwii resolution so if thats your issue it can be solved quite easily but if you really really want to emulate in wii u mode you can use virtual console infact uwuvci gives support for gameboy and gameboy color vc injects.
 
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ColdBlitz said:
there are aroma plugins to enhance the vwii experience IIRC wiivc launch for aroma allows you to change the vwii resolution so if thats your issue it can be solved quite easily but if you really really want to emulate in wii u mode you can use virtual console infact uwuvci gives support for gameboy and gameboy color vc injects.
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using a retroarch on wiiu to play retro games.
Leave the injects only for games that don't yet have a functional emulator on the Wii u even like those on the N64 DS, for example, now otherwise run through retroarch
 
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Zeox-gamer said:
using a retroarch on wiiu to play retro games.
Leave the injects only for games that don't yet have a functional emulator on the Wii u even like those on the N64 DS, for example, now otherwise run through retroarch
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From what I've heard retroarch on wii u is not a good option for emulation :/
 
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ColdBlitz said:
From what I've heard retroarch on wii u is not a good option for emulation :/
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using retroarch on wii u is better than using virtual retro console
why emulators are better there are more emulators for other systems than those that only exist on the virtual console and it also doesn't have the same limit that virtual consoles have when trying to inject more games and obviously it's a much better option for the wii u

Furthermore, you can organize the lists of your retro systems and by covers, USB controls also have many advantages.

the retroarch of the wii u just doesn't have the N64 yet, sega saturn dreamcast and DS

these being you will have to use the N64 VC and the wii64/rice converted into VC and the DS ones also to use on the wii u

Virtual console in wiiu is a limited compatibility roms but emulators on retroarh no
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From what I've heard retroarch on wii u is not a good option for emulation :/
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I use retroarch on the Wii it works very well friend you should try using it you will see that it is much better to be able to play your games in a practical and decent way nowadays it even emulates the PS1 very satisfactory
But that's what I said, it still doesn't have an N64 emulator and the DS even exists for the WiiU but it's outside of Retroarch and it's still very slow at the very beginning, but for these you use virtual console DS and N64 with the Wii64 and Wii64 rice injected to run on the Wii U, if you want to play these games now, otherwise you play through Retroarch
 
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Zeox-gamer said:
using retroarch on wii u is better than using virtual retro console
why emulators are better there are more emulators for other systems than those that only exist on the virtual console and it also doesn't have the same limit that virtual consoles have when trying to inject more games and obviously it's a much better option for the wii u

Furthermore, you can organize the lists of your retro systems and by covers, USB controls also have many advantages.

the retroarch of the wii u just doesn't have the N64 yet, sega saturn dreamcast and DS

these being you will have to use the N64 VC and the wii64/rice converted into VC and the DS ones also to use on the wii u

Virtual console in wiiu is a limited compatibility roms but emulators on retroarh no
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I use retroarch on the Wii it works very well friend you should try using it you will see that it is much better to be able to play your games in a practical and decent way nowadays it even emulates the PS1 very satisfactory
But that's what I said, it still doesn't have an N64 emulator and the DS even exists for the WiiU but it's outside of Retroarch and it's still very slow at the very beginning, but for these you use virtual console DS and N64 with the Wii64 and Wii64 rice injected to run on the Wii U, if you want to play these games now, otherwise you play through Retroarch
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Most of the time ive seen people on wii u purposely go for using emulators in vwii rather than retro arch so thats where my assumption came from but I will be honest retroarch is still a great option for people who prefer wii u mode
 
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LittleCherry said:
Yes, I'm using the vwii for this but as you mentioned and that's what I thought would gain an advantage with the wii u would be having emulators on better hardware and the resolution being 1080p, I should have researched more about the gaming scene Wii U emulators, but it's not something that causes me any problems, just a question.
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You would just be upscaling games never programmed for more than 480p to be 1080p, I guess if you're a big fan of upscaling that might be kinda nice? I just don't see the appeal in playing games at phony resolutions they were never programmed for, doesn't really seem much more satisfying to my eyes anyway. But if you really want that, you can use the Wii U version of retroarch to accomplish that for just about every kind of emulator available on vWii except for the N64. (I've just never been the biggest fan of Retroarch's interface).
 

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