Windows 12 will release out in year 2025

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Yes, It is. But this is Bad for users, because many people can't update their PC so fast.
I understand their overall end-goal is to try and make "Windows as a service" happen, and that they're dragging it out because of Enterprise users.
 

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I understand their overall end-goal is to try and make "Windows as a service" happen, and that they're dragging it out because of Enterprise users.
Remember Windows 10 S? I really think that it'll be "Windows Basic" at one point with "Windows Premium", for $10/month, being the normal Windows w/o restrictions.

Restricted to only using stuff that Microsoft has approved. Hell, this is already a problem on Windows 10 - it's almost impossible now to use drivers by developers that haven't paid Microsoft for a signing key.
 

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I understand their overall end-goal is to try and make "Windows as a service" happen, and that they're dragging it out because of Enterprise users.
Just now I set for a client 150 "Cloud Workstations" a set of virtual desktops running on the cloud and the client have a dumb terminal, only a screen a keyboard and a Mouse with network connection so NO SOFTWARE is run on the physical devices all is run on the cloud servers...

Is happening now.
 

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F**k windows 11. F**king windows 12 will just be owrse
Ive been waiting for some form of windows 12 (just to see), but yeah with all of the copilot+ and recall trash...its not looking good.
According to bleeping computer, M$ had to walk backwards on their push of the recall being on by default in the upcoming update of windows 11 (fudge them)
these folks will do anything to get that muney and extra info from all of us... as a side note I know for sure there sare specific windows services that when you turn them off after one update, they come right back on after another update because oops...
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...ecall-opt-in-secures-data-with-windows-hello/

extra edit: for those who didnt know the, the upcoming windows 11 update would "supposedly" turn recall on if your pc was copilot eligible by default.
and recall can record everything on the screen every 5 seconds: pron, passwords, and excellent gbatemp convos would be fair game.
Also the recall database was said to be unencrypted initially.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/n...s-can-be-easily-grabbed-with-totalrecall-tool
 
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I will need to build a new PC before October 2025, unless I go full Linux but some games I play doesn't work well with Linux because of the stupid anti-cheats not having support
The annoying thing is certain anti-cheat software has been updated to support linux but some game devs either refuse to update to it or purposefully disable Linux support.
 
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I will need to build a new PC before October 2025, unless I go full Linux but some games I play doesn't work well with Linux because of the stupid anti-cheats not having support
i'll be switching to linux with a windows 10 dual boot on a single 1tb ssd for the few games that don't work on linux tbh
 
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i'll be switching to linux with a windows 10 dual boot on a single 1tb ssd for the few games that don't work on linux tbh
Honestly, no reason to move away from Windows 10 even after end of support, at least until a major flaw/exploit is discovered. I'm just hoping that SteamOS desktop edition is available by then, if not I'll install KDE Plasma on top of Arch to more or less mirror the experience myself. I only worry a bit about the Nvidia GPU drivers for Linux not being very good.
 
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Honestly, no reason to move away from Windows 10 even after end of support, at least until a major flaw/exploit is discovered. I'm just hoping that SteamOS desktop edition is available by then, if not I'll install KDE Plasma on top of Arch to more or less mirror the experience myself. I only worry a bit about the Nvidia GPU drivers for Linux not being very good.
yeah i'm sticking to windows 10 for as long as i can, i'm mostly waiting for 4TB ssds to no longer cost $600 a pop here so i can finally replace my last 2 rotary HDDs and downsize my entire pc, which is when i'll switch
 
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Honestly, no reason to move away from Windows 10 even after end of support, at least until a major flaw/exploit is discovered. I'm just hoping that SteamOS desktop edition is available by then, if not I'll install KDE Plasma on top of Arch to more or less mirror the experience myself. I only worry a bit about the Nvidia GPU drivers for Linux not being very good.
I did used Windows XP 15 years later of EoL. (even I have a Virtual machine which use in regular bases)
 
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I did used Windows XP 15 years later of EoL. (even I have a Virtual machine which use in regular bases)
Technically Windows XP EoL wasn't until 2014, and Windows 7 had been out for five years by that point. Both great operating systems in their own right.
 
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Windows 12... While I would want to stay consistent with the versions of Windows that my device will be upgradeable to, I am not Seirously liking the direction Windows is going in. I've already heard a bunch of stupid changes that they're doing to 24H2 and the fact that we have no choice BUT to update to it for those that have Windows is annoying.

But then you could say, "Switch to Linux!" Linux gaming might be getting much better, but it's still not perfect, and in terms of specific things that I can do with Windows, Linux can't replicate it, even if there's support for Wine. At the end of the day, Wine is just "an emulator of some kind" and it comes with limitations that restricts me from accessing those specific wants and needs that comes with a normal install of Windows.

Even if I have to sacrifice them, I still couldn't grasp myself into using Linux. I've tried using Mint, MX, Debian, and another one that ive forgotten the name of, and the hardest thing that I hated about testing them is the many full clean resets that I've had to do on my PCs. While yes, it's mad to discuss about uninstalling Linux when you can just keep it (similar to the issue when uninstalling homebrew on a console), the option of doing so is extremely hard to find and while i was lucky to find a solution to it (becsuse even if you say to boot into the other BIOS in the BIOS/UEFI options, both sides of the coin won't work, af least for my 2 PCs that I've tried to get Linux on), I just wished that the accessibility to learn how to do this without having to run into these issues is isn't too scarce.

It's like when people discuss modding a 3ds but it's even worse imo due to the computing scene being even larger than video games.
 
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Honestly, no reason to move away from Windows 10 even after end of support, at least until a major flaw/exploit is discovered.
zero day... yeah if major flaw is discovered by good people then you're fine, if it's discovered by bad people then you don't know until you're already in trouble
 

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I like how this thread got revived again despite the fact we're 8 months into 2024 now and Windows 12 hasn't been announced yet.
Don't worry, it'll be around here in 2025 or something like that. Although I don't want to believe in rumors because rumors are almost game fake and I hate being based on them.
 

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