PS3 freezes as soon as I click on Enable FTP on Evilnat 4.89.3 with an external HDD attached

[Windows_10_User]

He wasn't referring PS4 game running off PS4, he was referring to PS4 game running off PS5. Basically previous gen game on newer gen console.

But I was talking about PS2 games running of PS2.

 

[Hayato213]

But I was talking about PS2 games running of PS2.

Of course PS2 game would run on PS2 system.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Of course PS2 game would run on PS2 system.

According to the list I showed you, not all PS2 games work on all PS2 models. That's precisely my point.

 

[Hayato213]

According to the list I showed you, not all PS2 games work on all PS2 models.

You can't expect everything to be 100% compatible, I mean nothing is perfect.

 

[Windows_10_User]

You can't expect everything to be 100% compatible, I mean nothing is perfect.

Well, for me that doesn't make sense since those games were developed for that console.

 

[Hayato213]

Well, for me that doesn't make sense since those games were developed for that console.

Well it doesn't mean it won't run at all, you can't expect all PS2 games to run on every model of ps2. Beside it is a wiki page, it is edited by everyday people like me and you.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Well it doesn't mean it won't run at all, you can't expect all PS2 games to run on every model of ps2. Beside it is a wiki page, it is edited by everyday people like me and you.

In my opinion they should work in all PS2 models.

Anyway, what would happen if one tried to play those supposedly incompatible games on those models with OPL?

 

[xoINARIox]

According to the list I showed you, not all PS2 games work on all PS2 models. That's precisely my point.

Depends on which slim you have. The SCPH-70011/70012/70001 models have the same compatability as all the previous "fat" PS2 models did. But the SCPH-75001 does indeed have a list of about a dozen games that no longer worked on that specific model. (Or had some minor graphical glitches....)

The only game that as far as I know doesn't work at all with a slim is Final Fantasy XI (because of the missing hard drive)

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Is the new Evilnat version (4.89.3) really compatible with all PS2 games like it's stated? In that case, are PS2 CONFIG Database and the PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List redundant?

"Full PS2 Games Compatibility" is a bit overhyped.

PS2 compatibility is not "full". It is "good" if you use the PS2 CONFIG database. Without the configs, it would be "okay".
BTW there are games with issues even on consoles with full backward compatibility.
In general, it always makes the most sense to play games on the hardware they were made for

 

[Windows_10_User]

Depends on which slim you have. The SCPH-70011/70012/70001 models have the same compatability as all the previous "fat" PS2 models did. But the SCPH-75001 does indeed have a list of about a dozen games that no longer worked on that specific model. (Or had some minor graphical glitches....)

The only game that as far as I know doesn't work at all with a slim is Final Fantasy XI (because of the missing hard drive)

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"Full PS2 Games Compatibility" is a bit overhyped.

PS2 compatibility is not "full". It is "good" if you use the PS2 CONFIG database. Without the configs, it would be "okay".
BTW there are games with issues even on consoles with full backward compatibility.
In general, it always makes the most sense to play games on the hardware they were made for

What happens if running those PS2 games in those PS2 models using OPL?

Is the compatibility better with PS2 CONFIG Database installed than OPL's latest beta release?

 

[xoINARIox]

What happens if running those PS2 games in those PS2 models uding OPL?

Is the compatibility better with PS2 CONFIG Database installed than OPL'S latest beta release?

1. It just won't work or will display an error code or something similar (graphical glitches, etc.).
2. The ps2 config on the PS3 should not necessarily be compared with OPL on the PS2 (these are different things).

On a PS3 you should always install the config to get the best possible result .........but OPL on a PS2 (preferably FAT) is better

 

[Windows_10_User]

1. It just won't work or will display an error code or something similar (graphical glitches, etc.).
2. The ps2 config on the PS3 should not necessarily be compared with OPL on the PS2 (these are different things).

On a PS3 you should always install the config to get the best possible result .........but OPL on a PS2 (preferably FAT) is better

I suppose one may also have an error code displayed or something like that if playing the PS1 games with issues on a PS2 using POPStarter and the PS1 games and PS2 games with issues on a PS3 with CFW and PS2 CONFIG Database installed.

 

[xoINARIox]

I suppose one may also have an error code displayed or something like that if playing the PS1 games with issues on a PS2 using POPStarter and the PS1 games and PS2 games with issues on a PS3 with CFW and PS2 CONFIG Database installed.

Either something like an error message or it just doesn't start (black screen, return to xmb etc.).

I've never used Popstarter myself because the compatibility is said to be pretty bad .......... but on the PS3 I've had no problems with all my PS1 games (regardless of whether retail, iso or patched iso).

 

[Windows_10_User]

Either something like an error message or it just doesn't start (black screen, return to xmb etc.).

I've never used Popstarter myself because the compatibility is said to be pretty bad .......... but on the PS3 I've had no problems with all my PS1 games (regardless of whether retail, iso or patched iso).

What do you mean by patched ISO?

 

[xoINARIox]

What do you mean by patched ISO?

Fan translations, Undubs, balance patches etc. that are applied to a game.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Fan translations, Undubs, balance patches etc. that are applied to a game.

After enabling sound effects, boot sound and background music in OPL, I have a black screen when running games, and after emulating a Multitap in OPL in the second controller port, the controller stops working after running games.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Fan translations, Undubs, balance patches etc. that are applied to a game.

Weird, after reinstalling the CFW, deleting and reinstalling IRISMAN, FileZilla's transfer speed is now very slow (like less than 1 MiB/s) if making new transfers after deleting the previous transfer in FileZilla when it's running and I can't recover the previous speed. I tried reinstalling FileZilla, Evilnat CFW, IRISMAN, used the Restore File System and Rebuild Database settings from the Recovery Menu and I still have this issue.

 

[godreborn]

Weird, after reinstalling the CFW, deleting and reinstalling IRISMAN, it isn't freezing when exiting it but it still is when enabling Cobra's FTP.

Also, FileZilla's transfer speed is now very slow when transferring the big PKG file (like less than 1 MiB/s) a second time and I can't make it recover the previous speed. I tried reinstalling FileZilla Evilnat CFW and IRISMAN and I still have this speed issue.

EDIT: It hardly becomes faster, and when it does, it no longer has the original speed.

EDIT 2: Now sometimes it takes a lot of time to return to XMB when exiting IRISMAN.

Like I said, maybe you did or not, use openps3ftp plugin. I've disabled webman mods ftp in favor of this one. You can ftp on the xmb, so test there.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Like I said, maybe you did or not, use openps3ftp plugin. I've disabled webman mods ftp in favor of this one. You can ftp on the xmb, so test there.

Didn't you state you'd never answer my replies again and before that didn't you state you didn't want me to bother you with the PS3 scene?

I already told you that openps3ftp's FTP transfer speed is slower than IRISMAN's even though my PS3 doesn't freeze if using it.

Do you know what might be causing the slow FileZilla transfer speed?

EDIT: It looks like to recover the original FTP transfer speed in new transfers after deleting the previous transfer in FileZilla when it's running I have to restart the PS3.

EDIT 2: I just swapped the HDD for the previous one, reinstalled CFW and after clicking "Enable FTP", the PS3 still freezes with an external HDD attached to it and it also freezes after clicking "Enable FTP" in "Cobra Tools" and clicking "Disable FTP" in "Cobra Tools" afterwards with no USB devices attached. Now what?

EDIT 3: I inserted a SSD on the PS3 and I still have the same issues as before but now when transferring files to the PS3 I'm getting 21 something MiB/s instead of 18 something MiB/s, at least. It looks like the HDD was a bottleneck.

EDIT 4: I reinstalled FileZilla, Evilnat 4.89.3 Cobra 8.4 [PEX] [CEX] and IRISMAN, used the Restore File System and Rebuild Database settings from the Recovery Menu and I stil have this issues.

EDIT 5: I tested the "Enable FTP" problem in another PS3 Slim and a friend of mine also did it in his PS3 Slim and we're having the same problem. Odd.

 

[smf]

Ok, but the question here is that for @godreborn it makes sense for some PS2 models to be incompatible with some PS2 games and for me it doesn't.

In what way doesn't it make sense?

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-PS2-Slim-play-all-PS2-games

There are multiple revisions of the PlayStation 2, with quite large differences. It's possible that Sony didn't test every single game 100% before releasing each new model.

EDIT: It looks like to make the FTP transfer faster I have to restart the PS3 after each transfer and maybe then it isn't granted I'll have the original FTP transfer speed.

FTP servers on ps3 are pretty crappy. Always have been. Eventually the PS3 will stop responding until you reboot

 

[Windows_10_User]

In what way doesn't it make sense?

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-PS2-Slim-play-all-PS2-games

There are multiple revisions of the PlayStation 2, with quite large differences. It's possible that Sony didn't test every single game 100% before releasing each new model.


FTP servers on ps3 are pretty crappy. Always have been. Eventually the PS3 will stop responding until you reboot

For me it still doesn't make sense because one would have to buy more than one PS2 model to play all PS2 games. Also, I guess all PS3 revisions play all PS3 games, all PS4 revisions play all PS4 games and all PS5 revisions play PS5 games.

I never had to restart the PS3 to make it respond and I never had this slow FileZIlla transfer speed issue.