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You do understand that it's just two users that have been flaming and calling everyone names, right? No need to lock a thread for those two unhinged users.
If you don't interact with or engage users who are flaming, and you report them - then you can request reply bans

If you start bickering then it's on everyone

I will unlock this thread at a later time when everyone calms down and can be civil, and stay on topic
 

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I mean let's all be honest, most if not all rich people are doing some form of tax fraud, or at the least are doing what is in essence tax fraud but isn't explicitly illegal due to numerous loopholes. It's not a stretch to assume that if most billionaires are behaving unethically, then probably one of the most notable and famous ones might be too, thus why it's good to investigate.

Weird how the guy who renewed the Patriot Act however is so quick to hide his personal info on the matter, though...
EDIT: Trump was an initial supporter of it but the attempted renewal was one he said he'd veto, having it dropped. What I wanna know is however is why people who supported renewing it in the House of Representatives are now *also* trying to hide shit.

The point I am making is that the government is bad, but unlike the partisans I am able to say both parties are bad.
 

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Apparently, he took over 300 classified documents.
I for one am glad that Trump was a fascist with no understanding of how to declassify documents or how opsec works. Truly the greatest example of the failures of our two party system.
 

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In layman's terms, how many Beghazis?
If you are going to do nothing but go "but what about Hillary?" talk its not going to get you far, especially with people who believe that the both of them should be locked away and be held for their crimes/disconnected from their party influence. They are both scumbags operating on two sides of the same politically fucked coin.

Also lets point out the fact that Trump promised to put her away when he was running, but never got to do so during his entire 4 year run. That in itself should be telling on why that was not the case. Perhaps money, power and connections transcends over political sides.. They are both corrupt of their own shit, but honestly neither will be held accountable and will walk free at the end of the day.

Its no longer a game about sides, its people with power getting away with anything because they have the power to, while everyone else frames it as politics and flings red and blue shit at each other ignoring the fact that both sides are just equally fucked in their own horrible ways with no action or representation to stand out and make a change from it. Just imagine if people actually got outside of the political mindset of these people and saw them for what they have done perhaps the world can look much clear to everyone else. But nah, fuck that lets just fling more coloured shit at each other while the rich and powerful retain their freedoms and evade laws.
 

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If you are going to do nothing but go "but what about Hillary?" talk its not going to get you far, especially with people who believe that the both of them should be locked away and be held for their crimes/disconnected from their party influence. They are both scumbags operating on two sides of the same politically fucked coin.

Also lets point out the fact that Trump promised to put her away when he was running, but never got to do so during his entire 4 year run. That in itself should be telling on why that was not the case. Perhaps money, power and connections transcends over political sides.. They are both corrupt of their own shit, but honestly neither will be held accountable and will walk free at the end of the day.

Its no longer a game about sides, its people with power getting away with anything because they have the power to, while everyone else frames it as politics and flings red and blue shit at each other ignoring the fact that both sides are just equally fucked in their own horrible ways with no action or representation to stand out and make a change from it. Just imagine if people actually got outside of the political mindset of these people and saw them for what they have done perhaps the world can look much clear to everyone else. But nah, fuck that lets just fling more coloured shit at each other while the rich and powerful retain their freedoms and evade laws.
For real. Both parties have always been bad, and despite any momentary utility we may get (such as one party having a presidential candidate who is not as bad as the other) the fact that we are forced to arbitrarily choose between two objectively bad parties shows we aren't in a democracy. It's all a partisan show when the right accuses anyone of corruption, because there's plenty of skeletons in the closet for their side. There's a reason why people on the left wanted Bernie over people like fuckin Hillary or Biden. The only reason anyone voted for him of all people over Trump is just because he wasn't as bad as the other guy, but still extremely bad, so bad that people ran on platforms like "Bernie or Bust" online.
 

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If you are going to do nothing but go "but what about Hillary?" talk its not going to get you far, especially with people who believe that the both of them should be locked away and be held for their crimes/disconnected from their party influence. They are both scumbags operating on two sides of the same politically fucked coin.

Also lets point out the fact that Trump promised to put her away when he was running, but never got to do so during his entire 4 year run. That in itself should be telling on why that was not the case. Perhaps money, power and connections transcends over political sides.. They are both corrupt of their own shit, but honestly neither will be held accountable and will walk free at the end of the day.

Its no longer a game about sides, its people with power getting away with anything because they have the power to, while everyone else frames it as politics and flings red and blue shit at each other ignoring the fact that both sides are just equally fucked in their own horrible ways with no action or representation to stand out and make a change from it. Just imagine if people actually got outside of the political mindset of these people and saw them for what they have done perhaps the world can look much clear to everyone else. But nah, fuck that lets just fling more coloured shit at each other while the rich and powerful retain their freedoms and evade laws.

I'm not saying,"what about Hillary?"

I'm asking for a metric so we can calculate how much jail time Trump is going to get. If you say 5 Benghazis, then you multiply how much jail time Hillary got by 5.
 

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For real. Both parties have always been bad, and despite any momentary utility we may get (such as one party having a presidential candidate who is not as bad as the other) the fact that we are forced to arbitrarily choose between two objectively bad parties shows we aren't in a democracy. It's all a partisan show when the right accuses anyone of corruption, because there's plenty of skeletons in the closet for their side. There's a reason why people on the left wanted Bernie over people like fuckin Hillary or Biden. The only reason anyone voted for him of all people over Trump is just because he wasn't as bad as the other guy, but still extremely bad, so bad that people ran on platforms like "Bernie or Bust" online.
Which was still a show with how little they cared beyond getting votes. Pick the "safe" (we don't believe in actually changing or doing anything that matters or helps people, but we'll kinda sorta say we will) and then once you get the seat, do fuck all. Cause what matters is how do we keep making issues so we get more money next time.
 

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Which was still a show with how little they cared beyond getting votes. Pick the "safe" (we don't believe in actually changing or doing anything that matters or helps people, but we'll kinda sorta say we will) and then once you get the seat, do fuck all. Cause what matters is how do we keep making issues so we get more money next time.
Exactly. It's so mindboggling how people are stupid enough to try to paint the Democrats as this ultra evil, super active party of just pure destruction when anyone with a brain knows they're literally just the most useless, inactive fuckers ever.
 
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Exactly. It's so mindboggling how people are stupid enough to try to paint the Democrats as this ultra evil, super active party of just pure destruction when anyone with a brain knows they're literally just the most useless, inactive fuckers ever.
Maybe its to make them feel that they have le big pp...

also haven't the democrats been kinda active? Like the inflation recovery thing?
 

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Maybe its to make them feel that they have le big pp...

also haven't the democrats been kinda active? Like the inflation recovery thing?
Sort of, I am being hyperbolic to a degree when I say they don't do literally anything at all, but when it comes to things like fighting for Roe v Wade for example they basically refused to actually do anything about the Supreme Court being ideologically packed, and waited until RvW was going to be abolished just so scum fucks like Nancy Pelosi could crowdfund over it.
 
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