Hardware [Spicy] RUMOR - Wii U to see $300 price

[Midna]

no need we can check back in time and see the trend

Pretty sure Sony realized that this trend bit them in the ass with the PS3. They've since taken necessary precautions towards pricing things effectively.

Roflol hypocrite.

Oh, where's your inside source on this matter?

Oh, I forgot, you don't have one.

Da fuck you talking about?

I was saying they probably "learned their mistake" from by the evidence of an affordable VIta price and the drastically cheaper PS3 Slim. It shows they learned something while you're stating things as fact.

I'll let you combat your own argument.

Price drops only come if a system doesn't sell well or its far into the system's life. The 3DS only dropped price because it wasn't selling well. I mean how long did it take for a Wii price drop? I actually don't know but I didn't think it was months or even a year after the system launched.

PS3 slim was well into the PS3's life cycle. It was a routine price drop. That's like saying Nintendo's learned their lesson on prices by making their Wii revision cheaper. Components get cheaper to make over time. As for the Vita, sure that could potentially be the start of a new trend. Unfortunately you don't have an inside source to confirm this.

Specs don't dictate what generation a console is in.

For me it's not just specs, but features. If something looks like a last gen console in graphics and feels like a last gen console in features then to me it doesn't count as part of the "next generation".

Basically you can't have a next generation with Kirk at the helm, if you wanted a Star Trek reference.

>Generation

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
The term is lifted from human generations. You know, generation X, baby boomers. Who are you to say someone isn't a particular generation if they don't like the right kind of music or the clothing styles of their time? The word is in reference to time periods. Not Guild's favourite console features,

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'll let you combat your own argument.

Price drops only come if a system doesn't sell well or its far into the system's life. The 3DS only dropped price because it wasn't selling well. I mean how long did it take for a Wii price drop? I actually don't know but I didn't think it was months or even a year after the system launched.

PS3 slim was well into the PS3's life cycle. It was a routine price drop. That's like saying Nintendo's learned their lesson on prices by making their Wii revision cheaper. Components get cheaper to make over time. As for the Vita, sure that could potentially be the start of a new trend. Unfortunately you don't have an inside source to confirm this.

You missed the second part where I said "or isn't selling well" and the PS3 was really lagging behind the Xbox 360. Now it's pretty much neck-and-neck.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
The term is lifted from human generations. You know, generation X, baby boomers. Who are you to say someone isn't a particular generation if they don't like the right kind of music or the clothing styles of their time? The word is in reference to time periods. Not Guild's favourite console features,

Not everything needs to have its literal meaning. For me something is "next generation" when it feels that way, not because it literally is. That's my opinion. Chronologically it's in the "next generation" but spec wise I feel it may not be.

 

[loco365]

$300 isn't bad imo, but I foresee a price drop. It's like how the PS3 and 360 were really expensive initially, but they have gone waaay down since then.

 

[Veho]

arguably the best controls

What's arguable about it?

 

[Midna]

arguably the best controls

What's arguable about it?

Actually every control scheme ever conceived is arguably the best controls.

 

[lexarvn]

arguably the best controls

What's arguable about it?

Actually every control scheme ever conceived is arguably the best controls.

To take it to the next level, arguably, the best controls depend on the game you want to play. IMO, if you are just playing pong, the old dial controller is the best controller

 

[sightlight]

300 is still expensive. the 3ds is more powerful and is 160. 300? no.

 

[lexarvn]

I'll let you combat your own argument.

Price drops only come if a system doesn't sell well or its far into the system's life. The 3DS only dropped price because it wasn't selling well. I mean how long did it take for a Wii price drop? I actually don't know but I didn't think it was months or even a year after the system launched.

PS3 slim was well into the PS3's life cycle. It was a routine price drop. That's like saying Nintendo's learned their lesson on prices by making their Wii revision cheaper. Components get cheaper to make over time. As for the Vita, sure that could potentially be the start of a new trend. Unfortunately you don't have an inside source to confirm this.

You missed the second part where I said "or isn't selling well" and the PS3 was really lagging behind the Xbox 360. Now it's pretty much neck-and-neck.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
The term is lifted from human generations. You know, generation X, baby boomers. Who are you to say someone isn't a particular generation if they don't like the right kind of music or the clothing styles of their time? The word is in reference to time periods. Not Guild's favourite console features,

Not everything needs to have its literal meaning. For me something is "next generation" when it feels that way, not because it literally is. That's my opinion. Chronologically it's in the "next generation" but spec wise I feel it may not be.

I can see your point, but sometimes it's just better to stick to a convention so there is less misunderstanding.

 

[Deleted_171835]

300 is still expensive. the 3ds is more powerful and is 160. 300? no.

what? 3ds isn't more powerful?

 

[sightlight]

300 is still expensive. the 3ds is more powerful and is 160. 300? no.

what? 3ds isn't more powerful?

NIntendo 3DS equals the wii.
wii u less powerful than wii.
NIntendo 3DS win in power.
NIntendo 3DS-160.
Wii U 300? NOPE!

 

[Deleted_171835]

NIntendo 3DS equals the wii.
wii u less powerful than wii.
NIntendo 3DS win in power.
NIntendo 3DS-160.
Wii U 300? NOPE!

>wii u less powerful than wii
ahahahahahaha.

Yeah, that's not true.

 

[Midna]

300 is still expensive. the 3ds is more powerful and is 160. 300? no.

what? 3ds isn't more powerful?

NIntendo 3DS equals the wii.
wii u less powerful than wii.
NIntendo 3DS win in power.
NIntendo 3DS-160.
Wii U 300? NOPE!

 

[DiscostewSM]

wii u less powerful than wii.

Source please. I just want to see what you come up with.

edit

Considering the Bird Demo shown last E3, I don't understand how you can think the Wii U could be less powerful than the Wii when the Wii (and 3DS for that matter) can't handle something like that.

 

[Midna]

wii u less powerful than wii.

Source please. I just want to see what you come up with.

edit

Considering the Bird Demo shown last E3, I don't understand how you can think the Wii U could be less powerful than the Wii when the Wii (and 3DS for that matter) can't handle something like that.

Not that I'm taking his post seriously, but the Wii wouldn't even have been able to decode 1080p video, let alone render scenes in it

 

[Eerpow]

Just checked his posting history, and I'm starting to think that he legitimately think that the Wii U is weaker than the Wii.

 

[RchUncleSkeleton]

NIntendo 3DS equals the wii.
wii u less powerful than wii.
NIntendo 3DS win in power.
NIntendo 3DS-160.
Wii U 300? NOPE!

You really know nothing, do you? Again, thanks for making the whole of America look like idiots!

To all the people complaining about Specs this, processor that, etc. I have a few things to say:
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Starfox, Pokemon and more.

As long as these franchises come to the Wii U (which most of them will), people will follow.

Also hardware that's 5 to 7 years newer than what's in current gen consoles can easily outclass the old ones even when it comes to budget performance. The fact is, we really don't know what the exact specs will be but as long as my favorite Nintendo franchises are there I don't care about horse power or graphic capabilities so long as it's better than the previous "Nintendo" generation, which it will be.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I'm starting to think sightlight may be in the mindset that the Wii U is just the controller, being an extension of the Wii, which at the time of last year's E3, was not uncommon to think. But, that mindset was put to rest quickly after. Sightlight probably just hasn't caught up with the rest of the world.

As far as the Wii U's power in comparison to current generation consoles, clock frequencies aren't the be all and end all of computing power. Advances have shown that a newer CPU with a lower clock frequency can beat an older CPU with a higher clock frequency because the newer ones has, at the very minimum, newer instructions that can do an operation in one instruction and/or one clock cycle that the older ones required multiple instructions and/or clock cycles to do the same thing. Simply put for those that don't understand, here's an example....

If a newer CPU rated at 1Ghz (1 billion cycles per second) could do a specific instruction in 1 clock cycle while an older CPU rated at 1.5Ghz (1.5 billion cycles per second) required 2 clock cycles for the same instruction, the newer CPU could theoretically do that operation 1 billion times a second while the older CPU could only do that operation 0.75 billion times in that same time period. Theoretically, because there are other things that are happening that could prevent that peak efficiency, but that theory applies to both cases.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

To all the people complaining about Specs this, processor that, etc. I have a few things to say:
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Starfox, Pokemon and more.

As long as these franchises come to the Wii U (which most of them will), people will follow.

Because Star Fox is really alive and kicking, the latest Metroid was good, and Pokemon on their consoles has always been awesome.

 

[RchUncleSkeleton]

Because Star Fox is really alive and kicking, the latest Metroid was good, and Pokemon on their consoles has always been awesome.

I'm sorry, was I asking your opinion? Sure, there was no Starfox on the Wii, Metroid was sub-par and Pokemon hasn't really delved into a full on console experience yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen for Wii U, nor does it negate any of the other titles I stated in my last post. I have a feeling you just like to complain about everything, not sure if you actually enjoy doing it or you have some inherent need to comment on other people's posts with no constructive information. Either way, have fun with that!

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'm sorry, was I asking your opinion? Sure, there was no Starfox on the Wii, Metroid was sub-par and Pokemon hasn't really delved into a full on console experience yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen for Wii U, nor does it negate any of the other titles I stated in my last post. I have a feeling you just like to complain about everything, not sure if you actually enjoy doing it or you have some inherent need to comment on other people's posts with no constructive information. Either way, have fun with that!

You don't need to ask for my opinion to get it. It's a forum, everything is subject to criticism.

I'm just pointing out that what people actually want and what people are actually getting from Nintendo franchises are turning to be different things lately.

Plus if you think I complain, you should see all the Gamecube diehards who do nothing but complain about how the last gen was better. "OH BRAWL IS GARBAGE, MARIO KART WII IS BAD, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE."