Pokemon Scarlet / Violet performance issues

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For those that have seen or tried the game, what do you think of the state of it?


I'm disappointed in the pokemon company for how it is at base game. I thought a big release like this would be higher quality. It has tons to offer but the frame rate makes it hard to enjoy enjoy moving around in the environment. To me that's the biggest problem right now. It looks fine when standing still, but it doesn't feel 30fps at all when moving around, and there's tons of dips everywhere, it's weird.

The textures look worse than I thought too (I'm usually not too picky), I thought it would look fine but it feels worse than gamecube textures right now, and the shadows act up too. (i know they lowered the quality to manage the open world, but still) And some of the textures in the world sometimes just pop out of nowhere, not a smooth fading in.
It just feels very unpolished. Even when throwing out a pokemon in the field, it appears way later than the animation of the pokemon opening up, I don't understand how that could go through testing when it's so obvious and looks bad.

I'm sure there's lots of strengths to the game and I don't want to say it's just bad since it isn't, but it's glaring enough how these things are, at least to me.
I hope that a day 1 patch could somehow fix a lot of it, and I'll still play it (I pre-ordered it) but the performance feels underwhelming for sure to me.

Thoughts?
 

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For those that have seen or tried the game, what do you think of the state of it?


I'm disappointed in the pokemon company for how it is at base game. I thought a big release like this would be higher quality. It has tons to offer but the frame rate makes it hard to enjoy enjoy moving around in the environment. To me that's the biggest problem right now. It looks fine when standing still, but it doesn't feel 30fps at all when moving around, and there's tons of dips everywhere, it's weird.

The textures look worse than I thought too (I'm usually not too picky), I thought it would look fine but it feels worse than gamecube textures right now, and the shadows act up too. (i know they lowered the quality to manage the open world, but still) And some of the textures in the world sometimes just pop out of nowhere, not a smooth fading in.
It just feels very unpolished. Even when throwing out a pokemon in the field, it appears way later than the animation of the pokemon opening up, I don't understand how that could go through testing when it's so obvious and looks bad.

I'm sure there's lots of strengths to the game and I don't want to say it's just bad since it isn't, but it's glaring enough how these things are, at least to me.
I hope that a day 1 patch could somehow fix a lot of it, and I'll still play it (I pre-ordered it) but the performance feels underwhelming for sure to me.

Thoughts?
the FPS are horrible and the slowdown really anoying
in places looks really bad
 

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For those that have seen or tried the game, what do you think of the state of it?


I'm disappointed in the pokemon company for how it is at base game. I thought a big release like this would be higher quality. It has tons to offer but the frame rate makes it hard to enjoy enjoy moving around in the environment. To me that's the biggest problem right now. It looks fine when standing still, but it doesn't feel 30fps at all when moving around, and there's tons of dips everywhere, it's weird.

The textures look worse than I thought too (I'm usually not too picky), I thought it would look fine but it feels worse than gamecube textures right now, and the shadows act up too. (i know they lowered the quality to manage the open world, but still) And some of the textures in the world sometimes just pop out of nowhere, not a smooth fading in.
It just feels very unpolished. Even when throwing out a pokemon in the field, it appears way later than the animation of the pokemon opening up, I don't understand how that could go through testing when it's so obvious and looks bad.

I'm sure there's lots of strengths to the game and I don't want to say it's just bad since it isn't, but it's glaring enough how these things are, at least to me.
I hope that a day 1 patch could somehow fix a lot of it, and I'll still play it (I pre-ordered it) but the performance feels underwhelming for sure to me.

Thoughts?

That how version 1.0.0 of pokemon game are lol
 

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I doubt a patch can fix anything, performance issues are most likely on the hardware itself.

Nintendo has never made powerful hardware, they have always been generations behind Sony and Microsoft, maybe next year if they decide to launch their next console it will be powerful enough to move games faster, I wouldn't hold my breath though, it's Nintendo after all.

You can always try an emulator in a fast enough computer, that'd give the best performance.
 
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That how version 1.0.0 of pokemon game are lol
Even Arceus was much better and it was open world too. Even if not perfect at all, it felt ok to run around.

I doubt a patch can fix anything, performance issues are most likely on the hardware itself.

Nintendo has never made powerful hardware, they have always been generations behind Sony and Microsoft, maybe next year if they decide to launch their next console it will be powerful enough to move games faster, I wouldn't hold my breath though, it's Nintendo after all.

You can always try an emulator in a fast enough computer, that'd give the best performance.

I mean, there's plenty of other games that look and play fine, by nintendo. This is the pokemon company but they should be asking for help if they don't know how to make the best of the hardware. imo
 

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I doubt a patch can fix anything, performance issues are most likely on the hardware itself.

Nintendo has never made powerful hardware, they have always been generations behind Sony and Microsoft, maybe next year if they decide to launch their next console it will be powerful enough to move games faster, I wouldn't hold my breath though, it's Nintendo after all.

You can always try an emulator in a fast enough computer, that'd give the best performance.
stop this the issue is not the hardware
 

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It vary each game, Sword and Shield was very buggy. Also BDSP version 1.0.0 was very buggy too, post game content wasn't even in the game.
Yeah BDSP wans't complete, though it could maybe be excused due to another company working on it. Not that it's a good excuse xD. I think of pokemon as a big series that would deserve good quality control, so I expect better.
 

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Yeah BDSP wans't complete, though it could maybe be excused due to another company working on it. Not that it's a good excuse xD. I think of pokemon as a big series that would deserve good quality control, so I expect better.

BDSP was a different story, it was developed by ILCA not by Gamefreak, while PLA was developed by Gamefreak, obviously the quality is a lot different.
 

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BDSP was a different story, it was developed by ILCA not by Gamefreak, while PLA was developed by Gamefreak, obviously the quality is a lot different.
Yeah is what I meant.
I can't comment on pokemon sword/shield though since I didn't try its base version.
 

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Just making a point, Pokemon games would benefit greatly from a better console.

I can only imagine what they would look like on a new console with PS5+ hardware capabilities.
 

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Just making a point, Pokemon games would benefit greatly from a better console.

I can only imagine what they would look like on a new console with PS5+ hardware capabilities.

I do look forward to the next gen, which hopefully will still be portable too.
 

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Just making a point, Pokemon games would benefit greatly from a better console.

I can only imagine what they would look like on a new console with PS5+ hardware capabilities.
Pixelated because of all retro.

But the game should run good now. Else reviews could impact it in performance.
I think you need to overclock to see if it runs better but I doubt it.
 

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For those that have seen or tried the game, what do you think of the state of it?


I'm disappointed in the pokemon company for how it is at base game. I thought a big release like this would be higher quality. It has tons to offer but the frame rate makes it hard to enjoy enjoy moving around in the environment. To me that's the biggest problem right now. It looks fine when standing still, but it doesn't feel 30fps at all when moving around, and there's tons of dips everywhere, it's weird.

The textures look worse than I thought too (I'm usually not too picky), I thought it would look fine but it feels worse than gamecube textures right now, and the shadows act up too. (i know they lowered the quality to manage the open world, but still) And some of the textures in the world sometimes just pop out of nowhere, not a smooth fading in.
It just feels very unpolished. Even when throwing out a pokemon in the field, it appears way later than the animation of the pokemon opening up, I don't understand how that could go through testing when it's so obvious and looks bad.

I'm sure there's lots of strengths to the game and I don't want to say it's just bad since it isn't, but it's glaring enough how these things are, at least to me.
I hope that a day 1 patch could somehow fix a lot of it, and I'll still play it (I pre-ordered it) but the performance feels underwhelming for sure to me.

Thoughts?
Get sys-clk and use this settings:

CPU: Do not overide
GPU: 691 Mhz
MEM: 1600 Mhz

That will give you full texture resolution, no frame drops and more overall stability without over-stressing the console
Enjoy! ;)
 
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