Piracy: Common Myths

[LDAsh]

If I'm forced to read the WHOLE THING, something known as 'context' might get in my way, so let's quickly scan some comment, pick out a couple of keywords, then continue on arguing semantics for the very sake of argument, because after all this IS the internet...

Goodnight nurse.

 

[xist]

If I'm forced to read the WHOLE THING, something known as 'context' might get in my way, so let's quickly scan some comment, pick out a couple of keywords, then continue on arguing semantics for the very sake of argument, because after all this IS the internet...

Goodnight nurse.

Nice...so when asked for an example you bail out of the discussion by posting a picture of the Mayor of London? They must be some pretty bad sounding cymbals if they won't even show up to back up your argument...

 

[Mantis41]

I think music is different purely because even at 320kbps the compression makes it sound pukey and horrible. Bigger and better speakers only amplifies the compression, I hear it all the time. It took a decade or so but people finally wake up to hear the sloshy cymbals that sound more like someone hitting a soggy garbage bag than what a clean smash of the cymbal should actually sound like.

The recording on the original can be so sloppy now days it's hard to tell the difference. Compilations tend to be even worse. Most kids these days don't seem to give a toss about sound quality and are quite happy to listen to music jangling out of a mobile at full volume. I have argued with work colleagues about stereo separation and been met mostly with blank looks.

Edit: I picked up this post on about page 3. After further reading I thought I would add a bit more. If you have a good quality sound system that has been properly set up for the room or a very-very good set of head phones, on a good recording you will be able to close you eyes and pin point the exact location of every instrument and sound as it was recorded.

A good analogy is an expensive steak and veg served at fancy restaurant. All of it is separated and presented lovely on a posh plate with an artistic drizzle of sauce. Now take those same ingredients throw it at the floor scoop it up and slap it back down on a cheap plate. It still has exactly the same ingredients of mostly the same quality however it is now all mashed together has some floor grit and hair thrown in and is served like a dogs dinner on a cheap plate. That is basically what you are consuming with cheap MP3 compression.

 

[BORTZ]

Im glad that this can all be contained into one single thread from now on, unless i decide to pirate this thread.

 

[xwatchmanx]

The recording on the original can be so sloppy now days it's hard to tell the difference. Compilations tend to be even worse. Most kids these days don't seem to give a toss about sound quality and are quite happy to listen to music jangling out of a mobile at full volume. I have argued with work colleagues about stereo separation and been met mostly with blank looks.

Edit: I picked up this post on about page 3. After further reading I thought I would add a bit more. If you have a good quality sound system that has been properly set up for the room or a very-very good set of head phones, on a good recording you will be able to close you eyes and pin point the exact location of every instrument and sound as it was recorded.

A good analogy is an expensive steak and veg served at fancy restaurant. All of it is separated and presented lovely on a posh plate with an artistic drizzle of sauce. Now take those same ingredients throw it at the floor scoop it up and slap it back down on a cheap plate. It still has exactly the same ingredients of mostly the same quality however it is now all mashed together has some floor grit and hair thrown in and is served like a dogs dinner on a cheap plate. That is basically what you are consuming with cheap MP3 compression.

Kids who walk around with music blasting out of mobile speakers always seriously annoy me. Not only do I NOT want to hear their awful music in the background (get a pair of headphones!), but the music quality sounds godawful on those speakers.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Kids who walk around with music blasting out of mobile speakers always seriously annoy me. Not only do I NOT want to hear their awful music in the background (get a pair of headphones!), but the music quality sounds godawful on those speakers.

It is worst when you're on a 6 hour bus trip and some dude start to listen to loud carioca funk (it is a brazilian music genre with explicit sexual content in its lyris, yeah, not proud of it as a brazilian...)

 

[Qtis]

Piracy causes job loss.
if I play snes games on a web browser right now, some1 in nintendo is losing their jobs?

Technically you could be paying Nintendo for the game and thus making it possible for Nintendo to hire more people to work on games. So in a way, yes. You can make someone lose their job.

if I listen to music on youtube free, some1 is losing money? I have never bought a song or album in my life. all I do is go to youtube and listen to songs. for every song out there, its on youtube.

Youtube pays for the music on there. It's another source of revenue for labels. You're still making money for both Google via ads and the labels via Google's royalties.

I always go to wikipedia and check various albums and they always have some cd with extra songs for japan and other stuff. so for the people who do buy some cd's sometimes, they may end up missing out on those extra songs unless they go to itunes or youtube. and sometimes they have itune exclusive songs as well which is why its a dumb idea to buy a cd if your not getting the full thang.

"Japanese release" "japanese bonus tracks"

wtf is up with japan getting the best hidden tracks from USA albums?

Japanese people want something special for their stuff. Sure it bites not to have the special stuff, but in the tech oriented Japan, there is so much options available that you have to try to promote yourself in every way possible.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

that kongnutz guy had a leaked copy of NSBM Wii...AND bragged about it. I would have been surprised if he DIDN'T get caught.

 

[Rydian]

Technically you could be paying Nintendo for the game and thus making it possible for Nintendo to hire more people to work on games. So in a way, yes. You can make someone lose their job.

I want this chick to blow me, but she won't.

brb suing her for a "lost blowjob".

 

[xist]

Technically you could be paying Nintendo for the game and thus making it possible for Nintendo to hire more people to work on games. So in a way, yes. You can make someone lose their job.

To expound on Rydian, if a job hasn't been created yet then it's impossible for someone to lose it.

 

[Mantis41]

I want this chick to blow me, but she won't.

brb suing her for a "lost blowjob".

Would masturbating instead be considered piracy?

 

[Rydian]

Would masturbating instead be considered piracy?

If prostitution was legal, then uh...

Wait that's getting too close to just pirating porn as it is.

 

[Mantis41]

Would masturbating instead be considered piracy?

If prostitution was legal, then uh...

Wait that's getting too close to just pirating porn as it is.

It kind of is piracy though. Your getting the same result with your own um.... media and it doesn't come with the box!

 

[xist]

Would masturbating instead be considered piracy?

Is it considered lossy or lossless if you use your off-hand?

 

[xwatchmanx]

It is worst when you're on a 6 hour bus trip and some dude start to listen to loud carioca funk (it is a brazilian music genre with explicit sexual content in its lyris, yeah, not proud of it as a brazilian...)

Ugh, even I've never dealt with that on a bus ride. Mostly it was kids walking around college campus and through halls with music blasting on their phones...

Did the lyrics in the music talk about.... getting a Brazilian wax?

 

[MegaBassBX]

I knew that my country is in the list , I download torrent all my life like 2004 till now and nothing happen to me at all, I wounder why most of the stuff I download are games movies and music and books too.

 

[Arm73]

If prostitution was legal, then uh...

Wait that's getting too close to just pirating porn as it is.

Prostitution is legal in many countries, here too.
So you see, it's all relative.

 

[XDel]

I heard that if you pirate too much that you will go blind.

 

[FAST6191]

Much as I would love to partake in a round of laugh at the audiophool I will forgo it for the time being.

It's just like HD, before it became popular everyone was satisfied with lower resolution videos and I might add that in the beginning many people saw no difference because they didn't know what to expect (because looking if the pixels are smaller is not very intuictive for everyone). But once people got used to it, they realized how much better HD videos really are.

I would have to argue otherwise and also mention that the shift from actually reduced resolution and Xvid used right at the point of breaking down to H264 used in a very comfortable range at what was supposed to be the previous full resolution might have helped matters along there.

 

[Qtis]

To expound on Rydian, if a job hasn't been created yet then it's impossible for someone to lose it.

Okay I guess we could go along the route of "The job may never be created". I'm well aware of the fact that piracy doesn't kill jobs straight, but it's not unheard of for a game not to sell well, but still people want to play it (ie. pirate it). The main problem I see with piracy is that in some places (Finland for example) there is a sort of tax on all storage medium for the sake of letting home copying be legal for personal use. Still it's illegal to download a movie or game and burn the DVD. Even though the HDD and blank DVD-R both have a (pretty large) percent of the price as the said tax.

Regardless, I'm more than happy with ripping stuff to a HDD and using USB/HDD Loaders when possible.