Nintendo secures RCM loader ban in the U.S.

image.jpeg

For anyone living in the United States, buying a RCM Loader just got much more difficult.

As you may have heard, Nintendo filed a lawsuit in November 2020 against Vietnamese resident Le Hoang Minh, who manufactured RCM Loaders and sold them on Amazon under the name "Winmart". This came after a DMCA takedown request from Nintendo, resulting in Amazon taking down his listings. Le disputed the request, allowing him to resume selling the devices. Nintendo called this an abuse of the DMCA's counternotification system, since Le lives in Vietnam, where any consequences for wrongly disputing DMCA takedowns are unenforceable. Due to this, Nintendo sought an injunction by a U.S. court. After the lawsuit was filed, Le did not respond to it, nor did Le enter discussions with Nintendo. This led Nintendo to seek a default judgment.

According to Nintendo, here is why the product is illegal:
Once this circumvention has occurred, the unauthorized CFW modifies the authorized Nintendo Switch operating system, thereby allowing users to obtain and play virtually any pirated game made for the Nintendo Switch. All of this happens without authorization or compensation to Nintendo or to any authorized game publishers
On April 15, 2021, the U.S. court to which Nintendo brought the case has ruled in favor of Nintendo's request for a default judgment. Any online store selling RCM Loaders is now prohibited from shipping them to the U.S.

Nintendo is seeking a total of $2,500 in damages (down from their original request for $2,500 per violation) in an effort to not drag the litigation out much longer:
This request for a $2,500 award is intended to be very conservative and does not reflect anything close to the full amount of damages Nintendo could reasonably seek from Defendant,” the company writes.

Nintendo could…credibly seek a separate award for every device Defendant sold — almost certainly many devices, given that Defendant’s RCM Loader device was available online for many months. However, rather than attempt to quantify Defendant’s total sales, Nintendo seeks to facilitate an efficient resolution of this case through entry of judgment awarding damages for a single § 1201 violation.
The injunction also applies to "any and all products, services, devices, components or parts thereof” that circumvent Nintendo's security measures. Does this mean that Le Hoang Minh (and anyone working with him) can't even sell paperclips?

:arrow: Source (courtesy of TorrentFreak)
 

Attachments

  • 2-20-cv-01707-Nintendo-v-Minh-Winmart-Motion-for-Default-210414.pdf
    211.2 KB · Views: 46
  • 2-20-cv-01707-Nintendo-v-Minh-Winmart-final-judgment-perm-injunction-210415.pdf
    132.8 KB · Views: 43

WiiMiiSwitch

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2020
Messages
1,998
Trophies
2
Location
Not Society
XP
6,903
Country
United States
Oh God can Nintendo stop bitching around with their ip. The cfw doesn't provide pirated games, just software which doesn't make you play pirated games. Nintendo is just whining about security even though they've already won. They sue an pointlessly arrested man. It's sad how companies act, however normal rcm jogs won't be banned as it's also used for troubleshooting

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

Oh wow polls
 

CeeDee

art by @x65943
Member
Joined
May 4, 2014
Messages
5,317
Trophies
2
XP
9,285
Country
United States
Nintendo: Does something extremely obvious that any company would do to protect their products from piracy
GBAtemp: WAAAH WAAAAH NINTENDO BAD WAAAH WAAAH I'M THE VICTIM WAAAAH WAAAH
A lot of the anti-Nintendo crowd makes Nintendo's actions out to be the end of the world, when in most of these cases... if you want an RCM loader, you'll probably still be able to get one. Same deal with fangame C&D orders or ROM site shutdowns. Not the end of the world, in my opinion, Nintendo's doin' the Nintendo thing to protect their property / appease their shareholders, and you can still get your thing if you try hard enough.
I AM THE VICTIM I JUST WANT TO USE THEMES WAH WAH
You CAN use themes! Black... or white?
 

Julie_Pilgrim

Secretly three raccoons in a trench coat
Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2020
Messages
2,626
Trophies
3
Location
(REDACTED)
Website
zoey-on-github.github.io
XP
1,391
Country
United States
Oh God can Nintendo stop bitching around with their ip. The cfw doesn't provide pirated games, just software which doesn't make you play pirated games. Nintendo is just whining about security even though they've already won. They sue an pointlessly arrested man. It's sad how companies act, however normal rcm jogs won't be banned as it's also used for troubleshooting

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

Oh wow polls
Let's be real here, you put cfw on your console for piracy

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

And that's fine, i cfwed my 3ds for piracy, but just don't try to act like you cfw consoles for other reasons, you aren't fooling anybody
 

WiiMiiSwitch

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2020
Messages
1,998
Trophies
2
Location
Not Society
XP
6,903
Country
United States
Let's be real here, you put cfw on your console for piracy

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

And that's fine, i cfwed my 3ds for piracy, but just don't try to act like you cfw consoles for other reasons, you aren't fooling anybody
I have a (probably) patched switch.....

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

A lot of the anti-Nintendo crowd makes Nintendo's actions out to be the end of the world, when in most of these cases... if you want an RCM loader, you'll probably still be able to get one. Same deal with fangame C&D orders or ROM site shutdowns. Not the end of the world, in my opinion, Nintendo's doin' the Nintendo thing to protect their property / appease their shareholders, and you can still get your thing if you try hard enough.

You CAN use themes! Black... or white?
I want cfw for a slightly darker theme
 

AkiraKurusu

Pokémon's dead and gone...
Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2019
Messages
1,083
Trophies
1
Age
25
Location
Northwood, Sydney
XP
2,570
Country
Australia
Let's be real here, you put cfw on your console for piracy

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

And that's fine, i cfwed my 3ds for piracy, but just don't try to act like you cfw consoles for other reasons, you aren't fooling anybody
Er, no. Piracy is already disincentivised by the online ban - which means losing access to the eShop and the NSO paywall.
I, for one, use CFW for game patching and EdiZon cheats and save file backups (and FTPD for save editing using my computer).
 

WiiMiiSwitch

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2020
Messages
1,998
Trophies
2
Location
Not Society
XP
6,903
Country
United States
  • Like
Reactions: BigOnYa and Benja81

Julie_Pilgrim

Secretly three raccoons in a trench coat
Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2020
Messages
2,626
Trophies
3
Location
(REDACTED)
Website
zoey-on-github.github.io
XP
1,391
Country
United States
Er, no. Piracy is already disincentivised by the online ban - which means losing access to the eShop and the NSO paywall.
I, for one, use CFW for game patching and EdiZon cheats and save file backups (and FTPD for save editing using my computer).
My absolute lack of knowledge of the switch scene is really showing right now
 

WiiMiiSwitch

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2020
Messages
1,998
Trophies
2
Location
Not Society
XP
6,903
Country
United States
My absolute lack of knowledge of the switch scene is really showing right now
I have a (probably) patched switch and I know everything about the scene

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

I really want to link a loader I found on Amazon but I feel it's going to be taken down
 
  • Like
Reactions: Benja81

Louse

go play rez
Member
Joined
Dec 8, 2020
Messages
198
Trophies
1
Age
23
Location
Citadel Station
Website
www.h.com
XP
574
Country
United States
Let's be real here, you put cfw on your console for piracy

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

And that's fine, i cfwed my 3ds for piracy, but just don't try to act like you cfw consoles for other reasons, you aren't fooling anybody
i like playing quake.

also thanks nintie. now everyone is gonna find like 10 other leaky holes in your box
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    1H left, such a slow week.
  • Sonic Angel Knight @ Sonic Angel Knight:
    Okay, I had spaghetti :P
  • SylverReZ @ SylverReZ:
    Hope they made lots of spaget
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Chill dog
  • SylverReZ @ SylverReZ:
    Chilli dog
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    Damn, I'm loving the new zelda.
  • xtremegamer @ xtremegamer:
    loving the new zelda, i started a game, it was so fucking good, so i
    am waiting on my friend to get home so we can start a new one together
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    I just dislike that they don't let me choose the voices before the game starts. Happened with botw as well, had to change to japanese and restart.
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    But the important question is can you choose gender
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    Same way you can choose Gerald's gender.
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    *Geralt, damn autocorrect.
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    But can he be trans? Lol
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Zelda transforms into link
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Link I'm not the princess your looking for.... *Pulls a crying game*
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    *skirt up* it's exactly what I always wanted
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    Just scanned all my zelda amiibos, took a while but didn't get anything that cool, did get the lon lon ranch hylian fabrics though.
  • Skelletonike @ Skelletonike:
    It was pretty funny when I scanned wolf link and got a shit load of meat.
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    @Skelletonike, btw I ran that custom for mgs4 on the deck I'm amazed it got that far in game
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Plug in*
  • K3N1 @ K3N1:
    Your favorite activity
  • BentlyMods @ BentlyMods:
    My fav actvity is:

    mario-dancing.gif
    BentlyMods @ BentlyMods: My fav actvity is: