so i have a xbox 360 wich was never connected to the internet from when i bought it. i connected it to the internet and did the updates was i stupid on doing that did i just lose a lot of money? lol
That all depends, if you booted it up and it still had the Blade menu it was possibly a version that could have been Jtagged, and in that case it would have had some additional value for just that reason alone, but not that it has been upgraded, it can still be RGH'ed IIRC. So either way it is what it is; an Xbox 360 it only has so much value.
Which dashboard? Looking on ebay for 360s being sold with the blade dashboard it’s not much.
In years to come maybe it might have been worth something but even then it will depend on the market.
In years to come maybe it might have been worth something but even then it will depend on the market.
Older dashes aren't as valuable as later dashes.
Yes, a bit more since JTAG is insta-boot but if you have a 2005 model and you stupidly updated it to the latest dash then it will be worth as much as any other 2005 model.
Yes, a bit more since JTAG is insta-boot but if you have a 2005 model and you stupidly updated it to the latest dash then it will be worth as much as any other 2005 model.
General background.
The 360 can't be downgraded in dash via conventional means -- it has fuses inside the CPU that get burned when it upgrades (see efuses) so older stuff won't boot.
Naturally as time went on MS blocked various exploits. There are possibly 4 things considered in this
1) King Kong. The original homebrew exploit.
2) JTAG. The first homebrew exploit most met. Dashboard version 7371 and below will 99% of the time be what you want (technically it was not the dash but an update that came with it to another component, there are a few that might have been made already fixed but on a lower dash or had some weird means of updating that before the dash was). Blocked mostly before its main release but still had quite a few out there as there were enough offline/sitting in a cupboard/previously banned ones. Can be done with basic components.
3) RGH. The main current one, works differently on different boards. Needs a specialist chip.
4) The XGD3 DVD drive firmware update. Certain DVD drive models needed an update to their internal firmware to run the more modern game discs (MS tweaked the format to gain that little bit more storage). This can make aspects of key retrieval harder, and at the time then anybody with a drive flashed would have to pull it apart to update it themselves again afterwards which might have been annoying if it was not them that did it.
Any additional stuff is a historical quirk (for a hot moment there was a beta that did something later stuff did not whilst allowing certain games to boot on DVD modded stuff, and some stuff for DVD/video playback), though maybe you could run a demo of a blacklisted XBLA game that bypasses the demo wall. Nobody is really going to pay up for anything there.
Additionally some do like the older "blades" dashboard that looks somewhat different to the later versions (of which there are a few more) but it is not really a thing that commands a great premium, might get someone wanting it for a display piece though.
Naturally this is all tempered by the older models being generally noted as being loud as a plane and also prone to red ring of death/rrod. At this point for the original style of xbox 360 then I am not buying anything that is older than a Jasper (the last released model) and generally encourage others in that unless it is truly rock bottom price. Jaspers will also come with liteon DVD drives but eh, older models come with other things.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-hack-your-360.334203/ has an older image but as this discussion does not care about the slim and lite (which has a circular power jack) then it is suitable for these purposes.
A Jasper that could have been JTAG hacked would mean you have lost a bit as someone would have probably paid extra for that, might have got if not more than a faster sale if it was a Falcon or Zephyr that could have been JTAG hacked. Though as noted above then it is not really going to be a massive premium compared to some hacked/hackable versions of devices as the RGH mod works reasonably well, is not that expensive and doable enough for most models of 360 out there today, technically comes with some perks JTAG does not in some cases (see dual nand such that you can dual boot to get online on an unhacked version) but nothing 99% of people will care about -- JTAG still does all the region free, homebrew, hacked games, any size hard drive, USB loading, XBLA, DLC, cheats and such, even if it costs online. If for some reason you value online most will tell you just get a second 360 as stock ones of those go for not a lot really, DVD hack it if you are really bored.
The 360 can't be downgraded in dash via conventional means -- it has fuses inside the CPU that get burned when it upgrades (see efuses) so older stuff won't boot.
Naturally as time went on MS blocked various exploits. There are possibly 4 things considered in this
1) King Kong. The original homebrew exploit.
2) JTAG. The first homebrew exploit most met. Dashboard version 7371 and below will 99% of the time be what you want (technically it was not the dash but an update that came with it to another component, there are a few that might have been made already fixed but on a lower dash or had some weird means of updating that before the dash was). Blocked mostly before its main release but still had quite a few out there as there were enough offline/sitting in a cupboard/previously banned ones. Can be done with basic components.
3) RGH. The main current one, works differently on different boards. Needs a specialist chip.
4) The XGD3 DVD drive firmware update. Certain DVD drive models needed an update to their internal firmware to run the more modern game discs (MS tweaked the format to gain that little bit more storage). This can make aspects of key retrieval harder, and at the time then anybody with a drive flashed would have to pull it apart to update it themselves again afterwards which might have been annoying if it was not them that did it.
Any additional stuff is a historical quirk (for a hot moment there was a beta that did something later stuff did not whilst allowing certain games to boot on DVD modded stuff, and some stuff for DVD/video playback), though maybe you could run a demo of a blacklisted XBLA game that bypasses the demo wall. Nobody is really going to pay up for anything there.
Additionally some do like the older "blades" dashboard that looks somewhat different to the later versions (of which there are a few more) but it is not really a thing that commands a great premium, might get someone wanting it for a display piece though.
Naturally this is all tempered by the older models being generally noted as being loud as a plane and also prone to red ring of death/rrod. At this point for the original style of xbox 360 then I am not buying anything that is older than a Jasper (the last released model) and generally encourage others in that unless it is truly rock bottom price. Jaspers will also come with liteon DVD drives but eh, older models come with other things.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-hack-your-360.334203/ has an older image but as this discussion does not care about the slim and lite (which has a circular power jack) then it is suitable for these purposes.
A Jasper that could have been JTAG hacked would mean you have lost a bit as someone would have probably paid extra for that, might have got if not more than a faster sale if it was a Falcon or Zephyr that could have been JTAG hacked. Though as noted above then it is not really going to be a massive premium compared to some hacked/hackable versions of devices as the RGH mod works reasonably well, is not that expensive and doable enough for most models of 360 out there today, technically comes with some perks JTAG does not in some cases (see dual nand such that you can dual boot to get online on an unhacked version) but nothing 99% of people will care about -- JTAG still does all the region free, homebrew, hacked games, any size hard drive, USB loading, XBLA, DLC, cheats and such, even if it costs online. If for some reason you value online most will tell you just get a second 360 as stock ones of those go for not a lot really, DVD hack it if you are really bored.
It's really only worth money if you have a jtaggable falcon or a jasper, jtaggable BB jaspers are worth the most, xenon and zephyrs one can find cheap
And honestly there really no difference as long as you have an HDMI phat, my phat I rgh'd instaboots and has the same boot times as my jtags, mainly due to rgh being more optimized now then when it first came out
And honestly there really no difference as long as you have an HDMI phat, my phat I rgh'd instaboots and has the same boot times as my jtags, mainly due to rgh being more optimized now then when it first came out
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Where do you find modded 360s for cheap? It seems like they went up quite a bit in price.
I had no idea there was a solderless modchip for RGH. I would still have to find a slim xbox 360 for 50$ to make it a decent deal plus whatever tools are involved.
Would it boot all games either digitally or from disc though? If it stayed on the old/blades firmware. And definitely no for the MS Indie titles.
no, games have minimum firmware just like the ps3 iirc.
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there's actually an app I've forgotten the name of that can resign it or even make it region free, but ironically, the resulting game would only be playable on a jtag/rgh.
I've figured as much. So there's no benefit for the end user if he's willing to use it for playing. But it's worth something extra if one choses to flip it.
I've heard from someone on here that there's a theme for either FSD or Aurora (maybe both) that uses the blades. I don't use themes anymore, because the skin has to be the same version as the FSD or Aurora version or sections could be missing. I don't want to have to worry about that.
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