your favorite pokémon conspiracy.

Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by T3GZdev, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. butterfree/venomoth mixup

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  2. gengar is clefable's shadow

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  3. kangaskhon's child pre evolution of cubone

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  4. pokemon world is japan

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  5. you killed blue's raticate

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  6. the world of pokemon was ravaged by generation killling war

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  7. ash in a coma, all is a dream

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  1. T3GZdev

    T3GZdev head of T3GZdev

    Apr 21, 2010
    United States
    hi never seen one of these & i have been looking around & seems to be alot of pokemon conspiracies out there. just wondering which ones are you're favorites.

    Below are a list of conspiracies.
    *Butterfree/Venomoth mix up?

    *Ditto is failed attempt at to make mew.
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    *Gengar is Clefable's Shadow.

    *Kangaskhan's (child) pre evolution of cubone.

    *Pokemon world (before black & white) is japan.

    *You killed Blues Ratiacate
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    Below are a list of conspiracies. THE BIG ONES.
    *The world of Pokémon was ravaged by a generation-killing war
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    *Ash's journey was all but a dream in a comma.
    *stories too long so just gonna put a link*
    Ash in a comma theory.
    which would kinda explain why the black & white pokemon tv series is called best dreams or wishes idk something like that. >.>

    Some thoght about some of the theories.
    i think the comma theory is highly possible, i also thoght up an alternative version of it, instead of ash being put in the comma from pikachu on the bike, he was in a comma the whole time, thats why the 1st epesode hes in the bed, then when the envent happend on the bike it was a flashback from when he got shot. which is also why theres almost an abscence of guns in the show his fear of guns, & the one epesode where the cowboy has guns was a flashback of when he got shot & he wanted to stand up too one lol.

    any other theories you guys would like to see here?

    some sources.
  2. Thesolcity

    Thesolcity Wherever the light shines, it casts a shadow.

    Oct 2, 2010
    United States
    San Miguel
    >Ash is in a comma

    >in a comma



  3. Dimensional

    Dimensional GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Dec 7, 2008
    United States
    Let me think this one over.

    I knew that pokemon was based in Japan. It was obvious. I didn't know about any other, aside from the coma part.

    I'd say my favorite is the Ash is in a Coma and it's all a dream. Can't wait to see what will happen when he wakes up. XD
  4. Hells Malice

    Hells Malice Are you a bully?

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    Apr 9, 2009
    Some of the "theories" are entertaining, like killing the raticate, but this is a work of fiction. The coma idea is cute but people are trying to rationalize a fucking anime. That getting ravaged by a generation killing war thing was retarded too.
  5. Valwin

    Valwin The Neautral Gamer

    May 11, 2011
    United States
    the coma thin is just so dumb
  6. BobTheJoeBob

    BobTheJoeBob The most optimistic person on the temp. :)

    Aug 2, 2009
    That conspiracy wasn't really made to actually be true, it was more of an interesting story. It shouldn't be taken seriously. It's merely for entertainment. (At least, that's how I see it)
  7. Zaertix

    Zaertix GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Oct 20, 2009
    United States
    Just to fix the title....

    *Your Favorite Pokemon Conspiracy Theories'
  8. T3GZdev

    T3GZdev head of T3GZdev

    Apr 21, 2010
    United States
    yes someone fix the title to that lol
  9. Uchiha Obito

    Uchiha Obito GBAtemp Fan

    Oct 5, 2007
    Pokemon regions are Japan, obvious that one... It's real [​IMG]

    Ash in a coma? Damn right! That why the first series were the best, the others are just plain doll and has no real story... Like digimon 4 and 5... $ was an obvious copy and mixing of 3 and 2 --'

    Just failed one thing... If pikachu can't evolve cuzs Ash still has something to work on before he wakes, when he awakes why can pikachu come glowing, then evolves to raichu...
    Ash would go: Pikachu?! You've evolved...
    Raichu: Yeah... I'm super now...
    Ash: That means that I can...
    Raichu: Yes, you can (LOL) awake now... Rest In Peace... I'll always love you...
    Ash: GoodBye...
    Raichu: THUNDER!
    Puff... ash awakes xD
  10. Narayan

    Narayan desu~

    Sep 29, 2010

    i'll read the rest later...
  11. Chikaku-chan

    Chikaku-chan ᏁᎽᎪ~

    Aug 9, 2011
    New Zealand
    When I read about you killing the raticate on pokemon blue, I thought about it and it makes so much sense, its pretty scary now.
  12. Veho

    Veho The man who cried "Ni".

    Former Staff
    Apr 4, 2006
    This one:

  13. Hyro-Sama

    Hyro-Sama I'm from the fucking future.

    Oct 25, 2009
    After Earth
    I never knew there was Pokemon Conspiracy Theories until today. XD
  14. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    The butterfree thing is interesting, never noticed that.

    The whole cubone thing has got to be my favorite conspiracy.

    Gens 1-4 ARE based in Japan. Hell, if I could be bothered I'd go look up which prefectures (or whatever) each region was based off of. Gen 5 appears to be based around the north east US.

    The coma one is interesting. Not that I say it's believable, but that somebody did enough analyzing to come up with it. It's almost a work of art.
  15. gokujr1000

    gokujr1000 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Oct 10, 2008
    Allot of this is actually interesting. The Japan Region thing has been known for a long time now but everything else is quite, well, amazing to me. Especially the whole Ash in a Coma thing although it seemed very dark and mature in some parts it was well thought of. But in reality we all know that After Season 1 of the anime it definitely started to tone down allot and the Pokemon Company, or whoever runs the anime, tried to make it more appealing to five year old's.
  16. Searinox

    Searinox <3

    Dec 16, 2007
    Round 1... DEBUNK!


    While convincing and possible to be true, I'd rather go with the idea that the creator chose some elements to make Pokemon out of and repeated them when creativity was insufficient. Another example would be Charizard and Magmar having a tail flame.


    Gengar has no 'wings' like Clefable. I'd call it a nice find but ultimately meaningless. Several other shape incidences can be pointed out between various Pokemon and can be compared, this one likely stood out because it's the most disturbing comparrison.


    Kangaskhan's child is NOT the pre-evolution of Cubone. How can there even be a speculation when the fact is you cannot evolve one into the other. Also in the Pokedex in the first generation, evolutions are direct numerical follow-ups of the original. This is not the case. All I can call this one is an... interesting remark. Just like all the others so far.

    Pokemon World and Japan

    This one is outright confirmed.

    Blue's Dead Raticate

    Remember his stated reason there is to find Marowak and he'd thus far only found Cubone, then decides to leave. The question as to why he doesn't bring up the elephant in the room - the unidentified ghosts that Pokemon are too scared to attack, and would most certainly have to have come across - isn't brought up. Perhaps he's too proud to admit he was chicken? It's a far more relevant unanswered question. But since Blue doesn't seem to be interested in answering any sort of relevant questions, we'll likely never have the answer to this one. Perhaps he swapped it out because it was too weak, something we can all expect him do. If your fights with his Pokemon are that brutal, I'm surprised no others die until the end.

    Disastruous War in Pokemon History

    Let's split this one into two. The possibility of a terrible war that extended to even Kanto, and the fact that one such war happened in very recent times.

    Existence of the War: Highly possible. The Pokemon world heavily draws upon ideas such as the 'noble savage' and the fact that the farther you go back into history, the more spectacular, advanced, magical or dramatic it was. I do believe the series mentions several times Pokemon living in harmony with people, then some big disaster leaving no trace of the previous cultures, after which modern history occurs. This theme, heavily repeated in legends, sacred texts, and modern pseudoarchaeology, is a magnet for fantasy, albeit one that's becoming overused. Pokemon die, as evidenced by the Pokemon Tower and various accounts. Wars exist, Lt. Surge took part in at least one of them, likely involving America, and the theme itself, as stated, has been repeated over and over. All the elements are here to make this one extremely likely to be true.

    This occurring in Recent Times: The Pokemon world simply works in such a wonderous way that kids freshly start adventures with their Pokemon friends by their side in complete safety, and are able to travel as far and wide as their passion and imagination allows them to. Isn't it just wonderful? Middle-aged men are an unpopular age category. They lack the oldness to display wisdom, they lack the youth to be competitive, or even adventurous. The game puts a big focus on these elements and thus the people that fit in this category. Throughout the entire series, middle-aged men appear to be missing. Should we consider that such a war took place on a global scale? If so, there should be at least SOME indication of it, somewhere in these 5 regions. The fact remains that youth are energetic explorers, young adults are competitive aspirants or evil masterminds, and old people are professors or helpful figures giving you a tip or an item, and reminiscing on their youth with wisdom. Middle-aged men? Those don't do anything special. Mostly rich aristocrats. Bleh!

    So while I am near certain one such war has happened in the history of Pokemon, I highly doubt it was recent or related to the missing middle-aged men in the game. A causal link must be established here. Supposed the old people were missing, should we have assumed that they were in a war?

    Ash's Coma

    Ash's Coma is ofcourse very plausible. As plausible as a little dwarf being behind us all the time but quickly vanishing before anyone can see it and clever enough to hide from detection by any machines. Or all of us living inside the Matrix. These are called unfalsifiable statements, statements that cover up for every possible state in a way that they could never be proven false. Like most such statements, Ash's coma could be as easily attributed to any other anime, cartoon, or anything. It's just as impossible to prove right or wrong. They cannot be analyzed rationally, and are of very little value. The author then goes on to link every major inconsistency in the series to the fact that Ash is in a coma. Tons of such statements can be made. This one, again, appears to have stuck out because it sounds particularly tragical. I have a more plausible version: the entire adventure is indeed just a dream. It's a fantasy created to be broadcast on our TVs!
  17. alex_0706

    alex_0706 darknessblade

    May 8, 2010
    pokemon world = japan i alreda know for 3 years
  18. Hop2089

    Hop2089 Cute>Hot

    Jan 31, 2008
    United States
    Pokemon B/W takes place in the United States, it's confirmed to be in China.
  19. BobTheJoeBob

    BobTheJoeBob The most optimistic person on the temp. :)

    Aug 2, 2009
    Wait, what?
    It's in USA and China?
  20. Evo.lve

    Evo.lve All that you could be.

    Oct 11, 2010
    Away from you.
    I think a Game Freak staffer confirmed that Isshuu was based on New York whilst the game was being developed.