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You aren't even 18 kid. This thread is OBVIOUSLY not meant for you.
Go play somewhere else.
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My religion believes that opiates are a gift from God, and by not making them freely available, the US government is trampling on my religious freedoms.
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Still, ppl you have to keep this thread polite and clean! everybody has the right to have an opinion on this, but you have to respect both sides!
Mine, No i don't do drugs! ppl who are ill and need drugs, i can fully understand and i support that (my mother in law has a morphine pump in her body)
I fully respect the users who do softdrugs (smoking weed, eating (spacecake, etc...) Drinking Weed Tea, etc...) as long as it's for recreational purpose and not in any criminal activity
It's like alcohol, now your limits! I don't drink alcohol that much (1 or 2 times a month a special beer, maybe once every 3 months a good shot of Whiskey)
Mine, No i don't do drugs! ppl who are ill and need drugs, i can fully understand and i support that (my mother in law has a morphine pump in her body)
I fully respect the users who do softdrugs (smoking weed, eating (spacecake, etc...) Drinking Weed Tea, etc...) as long as it's for recreational purpose and not in any criminal activity
It's like alcohol, now your limits! I don't drink alcohol that much (1 or 2 times a month a special beer, maybe once every 3 months a good shot of Whiskey)
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I personally enjoy MDMA.
I am usually a rather harsh and generally uncaring person, but MDMA turns me into the nicest person ever and i thoroughly enjoy that feeling of loving the entire world.
I am usually a rather harsh and generally uncaring person, but MDMA turns me into the nicest person ever and i thoroughly enjoy that feeling of loving the entire world.
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Why over 18? Younger seldom seems to matter to the sellers.
Anyway Alexander Shulgin and his wife would rate as personal heroes of mine and drugs were very much his/their thing. You can read about the guy elsewhere in far more depth but the short summary.
In organic chemistry the dominant concept would have to be that of the functional group, that being the part of the chemical that does the reactions for most things while the rest somewhat stands around looking pretty. Looking pretty is a bit of simplification because if you add more to it, parts out for other things (put an O-H there where there might have been a H before, NH3, there are many options so I will leave it there) it can vary what happens quite dramatically (one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all is more accurate than you might imagine). Prior to making it there is not the most you can do to know what it does without testing it for real, at least prior to supercomputers a few years ago and they are not dominant in research yet.
This guy made hundreds of variations on the compounds, detailed how to make it, how to make the intermediate stages, what the yields were. He is credited with making the manufacture method used by most MDMA/MD?? dealers, some debate whether he discovered 2CB but he certainly brought it to the fore/is the public creator of it if not, on DMT his methods are probably those used and so on, many methods are also geared so people without so much chemistry skills can pull it off. Oh and after he made these compounds he did a bioassay on them, which is to say he tried it, tried higher doses and note the effects. Again hundreds of compounds he tried in two classes of chemicals, those being phenethylamines (the family of MDMA and 2CB) and tryptamines (the T in DMT). He then gave it all away for free (ish, there are two books called PIHKAL and TIHKAL and the chemistry parts are free where the first parts being a story/diary sort of thing detailing it all. If you are more familiar with chemistry much of this happened in the 80s and early 90s (the books being published in 91 and 97 respectively) and I believe for much of it IR spectroscopy was about as high end as it got for chemical ID. He died in 2014 at the age of 88.
For some all that would make him villain of the century but from where I sit he ranks as a legend.
A worse variation on this method is what you would have seen in "legal highs" where base compounds were tweaked to make other things that were not illegal and then sold without much testing. This then led to awful laws like those trying to ban all things that get you high in various places.
That said I am a boring bastard and have not found a drug I care for (and that includes alcohol and caffeine). http://gbatemp.net/threads/nootropics-smart-drugs-thoughts-and-opinions.399108/ is about as close as things get and there seems to be little there right now, and psychedelics don't lack appeal but not enough to bother. I have no problems with others going in for it though.
Though if intense sleep deprivation counts I will go in for that.
Anyway Alexander Shulgin and his wife would rate as personal heroes of mine and drugs were very much his/their thing. You can read about the guy elsewhere in far more depth but the short summary.
In organic chemistry the dominant concept would have to be that of the functional group, that being the part of the chemical that does the reactions for most things while the rest somewhat stands around looking pretty. Looking pretty is a bit of simplification because if you add more to it, parts out for other things (put an O-H there where there might have been a H before, NH3, there are many options so I will leave it there) it can vary what happens quite dramatically (one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all is more accurate than you might imagine). Prior to making it there is not the most you can do to know what it does without testing it for real, at least prior to supercomputers a few years ago and they are not dominant in research yet.
This guy made hundreds of variations on the compounds, detailed how to make it, how to make the intermediate stages, what the yields were. He is credited with making the manufacture method used by most MDMA/MD?? dealers, some debate whether he discovered 2CB but he certainly brought it to the fore/is the public creator of it if not, on DMT his methods are probably those used and so on, many methods are also geared so people without so much chemistry skills can pull it off. Oh and after he made these compounds he did a bioassay on them, which is to say he tried it, tried higher doses and note the effects. Again hundreds of compounds he tried in two classes of chemicals, those being phenethylamines (the family of MDMA and 2CB) and tryptamines (the T in DMT). He then gave it all away for free (ish, there are two books called PIHKAL and TIHKAL and the chemistry parts are free where the first parts being a story/diary sort of thing detailing it all. If you are more familiar with chemistry much of this happened in the 80s and early 90s (the books being published in 91 and 97 respectively) and I believe for much of it IR spectroscopy was about as high end as it got for chemical ID. He died in 2014 at the age of 88.
For some all that would make him villain of the century but from where I sit he ranks as a legend.
A worse variation on this method is what you would have seen in "legal highs" where base compounds were tweaked to make other things that were not illegal and then sold without much testing. This then led to awful laws like those trying to ban all things that get you high in various places.
That said I am a boring bastard and have not found a drug I care for (and that includes alcohol and caffeine). http://gbatemp.net/threads/nootropics-smart-drugs-thoughts-and-opinions.399108/ is about as close as things get and there seems to be little there right now, and psychedelics don't lack appeal but not enough to bother. I have no problems with others going in for it though.
Though if intense sleep deprivation counts I will go in for that.
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MDMA makes me look at pretty lights and then giggle endlessly while i chew chewing gum for 4 hours.
Thats basically all i ever wanted.
Nothing in your life will ever compare to the first time you took one extra hydrocodone.
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Nothing in your life will ever compare to the first time you took one extra hydrocodone.
MDMA is crystalline happiness. How can anything ever beat that?
Never had it, plus I'm on an SSRI, so it won't do anything for me but cause serotonin syndrome.
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Not offended, I've accepted the fact that there's certain things I can't do if I want to function normally in public. Even if not dangerous, SSRIs seem to also take away the euphoria from any recreational drug.
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Euphoria, Empathy and love are exactly what i crave in recreational substances since that is what i lack most in life.
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