XBOX Live hackers selling stolen accounts on foreign auction sites

[Devin]

Two step verification would greatly reduce hacking but I don't think Microsoft has one set up yet?

Not a single one as I'm aware of. Simply:

~Security Question
~Recovery Email

They got a little better, since the new dashboard update they've implemented a few security features on their website/dashboard.

~Must sign into account at least once on the Xbox in order to recover it. (You can set it to auto-sign in though. This is what killed Non-JTAG.)
~On their website you have the option to make it so you basically "corrupt" your profile on all consoles your account is on. Prompting a recover.
~In the Xbox Account Management they made it so you can prompt all consoles besides the one you're on now to have to enter a password every time they want to use it.

In collaboration with the new Dashboard. (Which allows you to have your console on multiple consoles, without have to recover them to use them.) So of these features are pretty nice. If someone recovered your profile, you could make it so they have to sign in with your password everytime. (Of course they would have changed it, so useless.) Same goes for the corrupt profile option, to gain access to it you'd have to sign into your account on the Xbox Live website. Which you can't do with a changed password.

How much would 10,000 MicroSoft Points cost retail? Is it $100.00 dollars like I think?

Yes, $100's. I think in the Marketplace it's $99.99, but I'm not sure if they tax it or not.

 

[wrettcaughn]

Hmm... Look's like I have an email to send... I only wish my thread was still accessible but it appears to have been deleted.

 

[Foxi4]

This is one of the reasons why I believe trading *whole accounts* should be illegal, no matter whether or not they are legally acquired. Points are available on Points cards directly from Microsoft and THEN you know they're legit, as long as gamers support practices that are in the Grey Zone, "this" is going to happen more and more often.

Account theft is really the lowest common denominator, it should be punishable to the same extent stealing someone's credit card is. So what if the points are a virtual currency, they ARE currency, they are worth something.

 

[Hells Malice]

I've already explained during the Fudge Incident how these scams work, and why they work so well. This girl actually doing something is rare. I think that's mostly due to the seller being a fucking idiot and grabbing active accounts left and right. A lot of the victims don't even notice they're victims, which is sad and hilarious. To the people that do notice, like that girl, it's a complete pain in the ass though, and it shouldn't be. I got scammed before and my bank (since it wasn't through paypal, my fault) didn't give two shits, until I wouldn't shut the fuck up about it and they finally charged back my money to shut me up.

I'm rather neutral on the subject to be honest. I'm used to the gaming black market, and all its dealings. I don't actually do any of the messy theft bullshit, though. It's not surprising at all that people will buy things like stolen accounts. They're cheap, and people like cheap things. It's also kind of sad how many people have no idea where the things they buy come from, but even then most people wont care. I wouldn't look down on someone for buying such things.

This really isn't news though. It happens all the time, and has happened for a very long time. The only reason it's being highlighted now is, like I said, because the seller is a moron.

 

[Schlupi]

Oh man. I'm glad I have never played any EA account games. And it sucks for those people who lose their accounts to hackers...

 

[Joe88]

We had someone trying to sell them here on GBATemp a few months back

slightly different
that person was selling new accounts with tons of points which the points were acquired by credit card fraud via germany

here we have stolen accounts with points and games on them already

 

[wrettcaughn]

We had someone trying to sell them here on GBATemp a few months back

slightly different
that person was selling new accounts with tons of points which the points were acquired by credit card fraud via germany

here we have stolen accounts with points and games on them already

Is this an "incident" other than the one with Fudge? Because I'm pretty sure Fudge was buying preloaded accounts from an auction site and then reselling them for a profit....
Then tried the "someone else committed credit card fraud, I'm just trying to profit from it" defense (a defense it appears the accused continues to hold...).

I've already emailed the chick with that story and all the info I've gathered on the issue since then.

Don't worry Fudge, the names and places have been changed to protect the innoce..... wait, I think I need to send another email.

 

[Fudge]

We had someone trying to sell them here on GBATemp a few months back

slightly different
that person was selling new accounts with tons of points which the points were acquired by credit card fraud via germany

here we have stolen accounts with points and games on them already

Is this an "incident" other than the one with Fudge? Because I'm pretty sure Fudge was buying preloaded accounts from an auction site and then reselling them for a profit....
Then tried the "someone else committed credit card fraud, I'm just trying to profit from it" defense (a defense it appears the accused continues to hold...).

I've already emailed the chick with that story and all the info I've gathered on the issue since then.

Don't worry Fudge, the names and places have been changed to protect the innoce..... wait, I think I need to send another email.

Honestly, I really shouldn't have sold the account in the first place. I've basically admitted defeat with the whole thing. Oh yeah, you were joking about the other email thing? Right?

 

[mucus]

I'm sorry Fudge.

 

[raulpica]

Guys, enough flaming Fudge. If you don't like what he did, just don't post.

This thread is not about him.

Thanks.

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

And people complained about Sony...

 

[Foxi4]

Microsoft's approach is "You'ssa got s*itty password - 'tis your fault", "Fifa leakz yoor data? 'Tis EA's fault" and so on and so forth.

Which is WEIRD considering that LIVE is a paid service and you'd expect a certain level of quality from them.

 

[prowler]

Microsoft's approach is "You'ssa got s*itty password - 'tis your fault", "Fifa leakz yoor data? 'Tis EA's fault" and so on and so forth.

Or trying to find anything in the T&Cs against you, like entering only your first initial instead of your full name when signing up

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

Microsoft charges to play online and blames anything that goes wrong on you!
Sony's service is free, but they accept their mistakes and make up for it by giving paid content to affected customers.

'Nuff Said.

 

[Foxi4]

Microsoft's approach is "You'ssa got s*itty password - 'tis your fault", "Fifa leakz yoor data? 'Tis EA's fault" and so on and so forth.

Or trying to find anything in the T&Cs against you, like entering only your first initial instead of your full name when signing up

Well, that sucks donkey b*lls. On the other hand, I would sign in with my full name and last name if it was a service that I'm paying a subscription for - that is the law around here when it comes to contracts.

However, if I were this guy, I'd mail them again. If Terms and Conditions where violated during the first sign-in procedure, then practically, Microsoft had no right to actually accept his money in form of points for game purchases as he was "not legally" a subscribed member. You can't just use the ToC againts the customer, the customer can also use it againts you. When "taking money" is concerned, t'is all cool. When a refund is concerned, all of a sudden we need to look for loopholes? Ooooh, no you don't. I wouldn't leave that there.

 

[wrettcaughn]

Guys, enough flaming Fudge. If you don't like what he did, just don't post.

This thread is not about him.

Thanks.

I disagree.

This is a scam that Fudge helped to perpetuate and likely still continues to. It is as much about him as it is about anyone else.

If you can't take the heat, get off of the internet.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

FUCK. I didn't know criminals were on this site. A fucking warning would nice.

 

[wrettcaughn]

FUCK. I didn't know criminals were on this site. A fucking warning would nice.

Hey, watch out for criminals on this site. If they are caught selling other people's property and credit card info they won't be banned or suspended, just moved to a "group" that doesn't allow them access to one section of the forum. Be wary.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

FUCK. I didn't know criminals were on this site. A fucking warning would nice.

Hey, watch out for criminals on this site. If they are caught selling other people's property and credit card info they won't be banned or suspended, just moved to a "group" that doesn't allow them access to one section of the forum. Be wary.

Thanks. I feel better now.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

FUCK. I didn't know criminals were on this site. A fucking warning would nice.

criminals everywhere! lol

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