1. Patxinco

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    Back on the topic, i liked the show.
    Avowed gave good impression, though i prefer third person view.
    Seeing Jack Black singing on Psychonauts 2, was amazing.
    Everwild could be great, but still too soon to say.
    The Medium could be an awesome approach to the terror genres.
    Grounded is "Honey, i shrunk the kids" 100%

    And finally, that Fable 4 teaser is... GLORIOUS!!
    Well done Microsoft!!
     
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    I'm not a fan of next gen honestly but Microsoft has done a very good job this year. Microsoft even said it themselves they are not really in it for exclusives they are all about making the best all around console. Series-X is the better system than the PS5. The Xbox One is the better System than the PS4. This isn't even opinionated this is facts.

    Microsoft has backwards compatibility on all the legacy systems Sony doesn't. You can access most of the titles on game pass you barely get anything of relevance on the PS Now. All systems have their exclusives titles but for Nintendo and Sony you have to shell out excessive $$$ to play their exclusive titles versus Microsoft handing everything to you on a silver platter on the game pass.

    Last but not least lets talk about the game sales. Yes Sony and Nintendo sold more than Microsoft because of the popularity but that doesn't mean that it is better it only means that it is popular. Microsoft is still winning because they still get credit for PC sales and game sales also the most important thing they are bring value to their products. You will spend more $$$ owning a Nintendo or Sony product versus owning a Microsoft product. I have all 3 (Switch/PS4/Xbox One) I'm even talking about games that I bought I spent more $$$ on my PS4 and my Switch versus my Xbox One. All you need to do for Microsoft is buy your system and your controller charging adapter and the gamepass and you are golden.

    If Anyone saying that Nintendo or Sony is better than Microsoft at this point is only in Denial. Subtract the exclusives and subtract the game sales tell me what are they offering other than squeezing you dry for every $$$. You have to look at the bigger picture. Each consoles have their own exclusives and Console sales fluctuate based off of popularity but when it comes to services and console capabilities tell me how Nintendo and Sony are better than Microsoft. It's going to be very hard to beat a system that is capabilities of offering backwards compatibility and also 75% if the games are accessible on game pass.
     
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    new fable xbox fanboys yehey :grog: ... drum roll after 1yr cancelled again :rofl2: xbox games can play also in PC why bother buying new xbox :mthr:
     
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    I realised how much Jack Black and Tim Schaefer are a match made in heaven. I'm not the biggest Jack Black fan, but his performance was spot on.

    Also Gunk isn't getting enough attention imo. It looked pretty cool from what little gameplay we saw.
     
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    Amen to that.
    Even 360 was more affordable and efficient than PS3 back then, but the backward compatibility was really lacking on both (still longing to replay rallisport challenge 2...).

    Too bad their project xCloud is not compatible with handheld PC while PSnow is.
    At least, many of their game release on STEAM so, I'll give them a pass.
     
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    Come on, man...
     
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    I will wait for Xbox to get games released by Japanese devs before considering anything. Then I will accept that it has everything.
     
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    It isn't even a fighting game man. It's great fun and all, bust the best fighting game series is Guilty Gear, by far.
    And the best Smash Bros. (Brawl - Project M) was a freaking mod.

    Remove the exclusives and there goes the main reason to even own a console of a specific brand. Exception being the switch for portability alone.

    Also, the "PC-saturation" I read about here from those 2 posters sound incredibly stupid and/or lazy.

    After a one-time setup, somehow right-clicking the steam icon and selecting a game is a "lot more hassle" than simply powering on the console... Give me a break.

    A gaming quality PC is better than anything any console can offer. If only because you can play every generation through emulation, not to mention everything else you can do (better) on a PC: internet surfing, working, browsing the web etc.

    The presentation sucked, as expected, since the few potentially good games showed no gameplay.
    FFS, stop showing freaking CGI and get to the game, please? It's a GAME not a MOVIE.
     
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    That was it? If that's the case, pretty weak presentation...

    Halo Infinite looks good, and looks like Halo. This is a good thing, but there was nothing special in that gameplay either.

    Forza Motorsport 3 was a given. State of Decay 3 is hard to get hyped since the other 2 games were nothing special either.

    Everwild might be good, but I don't care for cinematic trailers. The same can be said about Fable, although it's nice to have a confirmation (but if it's an MMO as I heard in a another group, then I don't care about the game anymore).

    Ori and the Will of the Wisps with "low input latency"... I mean, really? It's input latency was never a issue before, and I don't see what's special in this announcement.

    I expected a way better presentation and much more gameplay.
     
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    You are correct if you have a strong PC there is no need for you to get a Seriex-X but for some people gaming PC's are super expensive so they opt out for the console. I have a gaming laptop but I like playing on my console more than my laptop since my laptop gets super hot after 4 hours and I don't want it to overheat. Another important thing with the whole Denovo DRM piracy is kinda dying on the PC slowly and games are getting cheaper to buy.

    I'm not bashing the PS5 or the PS4 because I actually bought over 60 games for my PS4 but on my Xbox One all I had to do was just buy the gamepass and the little games I did buy for the Xbox One was dirt cheap. I'm just getting at the point I don't want to buy games anymore I just rather do a subscription and call it a day. I'm not really excited about next gen because I have a shit ton of PS4 and Xbox One games to keep me busy. I made a promise that I would beat most of the games before looking at next gen.

    Even the switch although I don't talk much about in these big boys conversations of (Sony vs Microsoft) it is still there with the 1TB of games I had downloaded for it also my 10 legit games that I bought. I actually want to start beating those games too.
     
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    you mean the exclusives that the xbox DOES NOT have? or how about showcasing games that are on both PC and ps5 in YOUR showcase?! at least when nintendo and sony had their directs they showed actual exclusives :creep:
    it's not terraflops or pixels that make a console worth it...it's the exclusives.
     
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    I been with Sony for 15 years they don't listen to their customers feedback I can go on and non about the lackluster PS Plus and PS now. The PS5 "exclusives" they did show honestly should have been on the PS4. What is the point of having multiple exclusives if you are still forcing your loyal fan base to buy then individually versus putting it on your PS Now Platform? Sony is like Apple all they want is your $$$ and they basically do nothing for you. So yes you are absolutely correct Sony may have 20 more exclusives than Microsoft but at least with Microsoft 10 out of the 12 exclusives I can play it on the game pass versus having to pay out of pocket for. Lets not forget backwards compatability is missing on the PS4 and there is no word on the PS5 being backwards compatible with PS3 and below (PS4 is confirmed being BC with PS5) You are drinking the Sony juice I understand I been drinking it for 15 years but due to bad leadership and the mediocre experience with PS Plus and PS now it made me look for something better. I found it with Microsoft.

    If exclusives are the selling point they should have just did what Microsoft did make your service complete (merging PS Plus and PS Now) put all your exclusives playable on PS Ultimate I guarantee you the subscriptions would be 10 times they are right now. Let people decide if they want to buy the game to own it or just use the subscription this is the direction gaming should be going in similar to the music industry. Nobody really buy Albums anymore they stream it why should gaming be any exception.
     
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  13. Xzi

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    We're simply not gonna agree on that, I don't see any point in setting Smash Bros aside into its very own genre. It has a lot of different modes, but all of them involve characters fighting each other head-to-head. Ergo it's a fighting game series. Easy to learn and very difficult to master, as it should be.

    Even if, for some reason, you limit the definition of "fighting games" exclusively to games about memorizing command inputs and combos, Smash Bros has those elements as well.
     
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    Microsoft isn't gonna do anything for you for free either. The purpose of every business is to make money.

    I'll admit that MS is being quite generous with putting so many games on Game Pass at launch. However, the reason they're doing this is not out of the goodness of their hearts, but because of their current position in the console race. They're losing, and not by just a little bit. If the tables were flipped and PS4 came in dead last for sales this generation, Sony would do exactly as you suggest and create one unified subscription service. As long as people are buying up their first-party exclusives like crazy, however, there's no good reason for Sony to devalue their own games that way.

    Also I dislike subscription services in general, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that, but that's another discussion.

    The prospect of backward compatibility for playing PS4 exclusives with better performance is nice, but beyond that, BC is little more than a novelty at this point. The few games more than one generation back which haven't been re-released, remastered, or remade, can simply be emulated. Between Xbox and X360, I can think of all of three titles which are perhaps worth revisiting, and none of them would require me to buy a Microsoft console in order to revisit.

    In summary: Microsoft has made some good decisions lately, but they've also made a ton of bad decisions in the past, the consequences of which put them in their current position (playing from behind/shifting the focus to PC gaming). I wish them all the best, but it's certainly an uphill battle from here, and I don't think it would be a bad idea for them to move away from hardware manufacturing and into more of a publisher role.
     
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    Console exclusive. Again i don't care what is on PC and neither do millions of people who use consoles. Which is why Microsoft's strategy is brilliant.

    I'll just play the PS3 game for the 10th time great game, but i'm not interested in remasters. and PS4 BC pales in comparison to Xbox BC if that's a feature you care about

    Fair enough.
    thats funny since all Sony games are literally movies

    again I don't have any interest in ever gaming on a PC along with millions of other people

    lmao

    Xbox is the best value in gaming. Many reason to own one.

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    nope its power and features

    as 95% of the games any one plays are 3rd party

    only reason alot of people have ps4 is because of what MS did at e3 2013 not because of "exclusives"

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    you aren't going to agree on cuz no one but a Nintendo fanboy would ever think Smash Bros was anything more but stupid fun with kids

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    PSO online
    Dragon quest XI S
    Final fantasy 14

    PS online is xbox only to in North America

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    nah but they will give you a far better value then anyone else

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    Hilarious

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    Nope it's because they see the future and isint stuck in the past like Sony and Nintendo

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    They made one big bad decision on e3 2013 that caused them this entire generation and have only improved to have the best console in 2020.
     
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    Yikes, so many merges and so much rage-posting. You're far too easy to trigger my friend, and none of what I said was even meant for that purpose. If you actually want to continue this conversation instead of wasting everybody's time with half-assed attempts to troll me, I'll give you that chance another time. Until then, have a nice day. ^_^
     
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    not really just had alot of replies to my posts since yesterday and I havnt been on

    "troll you" ?




    "BC is novelty' lol right

    have a good one man
     
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    I'll wait for fable 4 if it doesn't suck like 3 did i might buy a series X instead of a PS5
     
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    Not as many good games as on PS unfortunately but still some interesting projects.
     
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    I'm super excited for Halo Infinite. I like that this game actually has more color and isn't so gray as the others.
     
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