XBone: Microsoft releases information on what goes.

[Taleweaver]

The fact is that soon even your washing machine will require an internet connection, so get over it.

I know you don't mean that literally, but I don't see what you're referring to.

Yes, there are some PC-games that require internet. But that's it. Most steam games can be played offline. Current consoles don't require it, and even smartphones work fine when not connected to the 'net (I have one of those).

So is there something I'm missing? Is there something other than games that actually require internet connection where that previously wasn't the case? Because if not...then it's hardly a trend. Then it's a new idea that either can be accepted or abandoned.

 

[jonesman99]

Question: Is MS using the Blu-Ray format for their games too, or is it just for movies?

 

[FAST6191]

My friend told me that the XBone ideally needs 1.5mbps connection to do it's daily check etc. Sorry Alaska. No XBone for you.

Source or it didn't happen.

To be fair that is actually what MS are claiming you need

Networking Requirements

To ensure Xbox One works optimally and can offer the experiences described above, it is designed with the following networking requirements:

For an optimal experience, we recommend a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps. (For reference, the average global internet connection speed as measured recently by Akamai was 2.9 Mbps). In areas where an Ethernet connection is not available, you can connect using mobile broadband.
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[the_randomizer]

To be fair that is actually what MS are claiming you need

See, I can't even get that at my apartment complex, that's how bad it is, and Microsoft had to be dicks about it and never took into consideration that there are people who can't even get 1.5 mbps on a connection. I hate my ISP and also hate the way the wireless network was set up. I may not have a CS degree with an emphasis in networking, but I know a shoddily set up network when I see one. Microsoft rewards those with blazing fast internet and punishes those who don't, extinguishing what little desire I had to get one.

Microsoft, stop being c**ts and sod off,

Sincerely, someone who's getting a PS4

Gee, I wonder who the genius that was that didn't take said scenarios into consideration.

 

[Frank Cadena]

Damn storm caused my internet to be down for 6 hours today. Internet service was just restored and I'd shudder to think what I'd do if I had an XBone and it's check in time was one hour into that outage. I'd have something that was supposed to be a game console becoming not a game console.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Question: Is MS using the Blu-Ray format for their games too, or is it just for movies?

I think they finally submitted and accepted Bluray.

 

[jonesman99]

I think they finally submitted and accepted Bluray.

Thank you for that. Ok, so now that I have that bit of info, I have another question. Just how much data do they feel the new generation of games is going to render near lifelike graphics and updated AI that its going to need cloud servers to make it that much more unrepetitive? Uncharted 3 takes half the size of a standard BR disc and most of that battles that take place have opponents that are non repetitive, as well as its environments amazing looking.

As for security, they were going in the right direction with the Blu-Ray disc format, and XGD3 data in a way, as people, AFAIK have yet to be able to burn PS3 games and play them on the console (that and the fact that blank BR discs are expensive as all hell). However, I feel that MS using limits as security measures, is going to push people away from buying one.

 

[Rydian]

Blank Blu-ray discs are less than $1 each nowadays.

However optical media is cumbersome (gotta' swap it, prone to damage and wearing out much faster) and slow (USB 2.0 is slightly faster than Blu-ray), which is why HDD/USB loading is used.

 

[tj_cool]

I wonder if you'll still need to have the disk in the system to play it.
That's how it works on the X360 I believe? (Don't have one, so...)

 

[IBNobody]

I wonder if you'll still need to have the disk in the system to play it.
That's how it works on the X360 I believe? (Don't have one, so...)

No, you won't have to have the disk in.

 

[SifJar]

I wonder if you'll still need to have the disk in the system to play it.
That's how it works on the X360 I believe? (Don't have one, so...)

That is how it is on the 360 and PS3 both, but MS confirmed a while back that you would not require the disk inserted to play. So once installed, it's no different to a digital download really, it's just the delivery mechanism is different.

EDIT: I wonder if it'll be possible to give a friend your disk after you've installed it and they can just purchase an "activation" for it online, but install from the disk. Might be good in areas with slower internet and few/no physical game shops.

 

[EthanObi]

This discussion is so heated that it gave me a XBoner.
On topic: This console is making Microsoft look more like a bunch of zombie businessmen than a company...
Microsoft is:
Cheap
Brainless
Maker of Windows OShit
Rival of Apple
Gamers best friend Worst enemy
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Yep, that pretty much sums Microsoft up
They should've died out like the 80's...

 

[the_randomizer]

This discussion is so heated that it gave me a XBoner.
On topic: This console is making Microsoft look more like a bunch of zombie businessmen than a company...
Microsoft is:
Cheap
Brainless
Maker of Windows OShit
Rival of Apple
Gamers best friend Worst enemy
______________________________________________________________________________________

Yep, that pretty much sums Microsoft up
They should've died out like the 80's...

Can't say as I blame you, they've made far too many mistakes with this alleged "game" console. Even the PS4 is less convoluted than this ill-contrived device.

Spoiler

Just be sure you don't take Viagra when you get an Xboner

 

[EZ-Megaman]

This discussion is so heated that it gave me a XBoner.
On topic: This console is making Microsoft look more like a bunch of zombie businessmen than a company...
Microsoft is:
Cheap - I doubt it considering that the specs are more advanced than the Wii U (which I do not have any problems with, in terms of specs) and that they [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/microsoft-employees-raise-1-billion-charity_n_2001535.html] raised $1 billion for charity when they could've kept it for themselves[
Brainless - I admit that what they are doing is an inconvenience to consumers and hope that they reconsider their decision (though that's unlikely)
Maker of Windows OShit - Windows is generally considered as the best lline of operating systems, universally.
Rival of Apple - The general majority dislike using OSX (from what I've heard and seen anyway).
Gamers best friend Worst enemy - They did help push online gaming (which I personally dislike using) forward with the original Xbox, though they were not the first to use online gaming.
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Yep, that pretty much sums Microsoft up
They should've died out like the 80's...

I'm sorry, I agree that Microsoft has stupid policies with the X1, but they do have good business practices and helped bring significant advancements in their fields.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Damn storm caused my internet to be down for 6 hours today. Internet service was just restored and I'd shudder to think what I'd do if I had an XBone and it's check in time was one hour into that outage. I'd have something that was supposed to be a game console becoming not a game console.

The Xbox One won't be totally useless to you. You could use it to hold down your loose papers in the next storm

 

[narutofan777]

At present despite but one of the offerings being available and the others barely being specifications I appear to find myself knowing which of the "next gen" consoles I shall find myself getting.

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i kno wat next gen console im getting...

 

[Frank Cadena]

Haha yeah, net outage + XBone = Fancy paperweight. No net = no online TV and I already have a bluray player. It's called a PS3.

 

[Deleted User]

"With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

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Way to get customers,is Microsoft pioneering the field? I'd hate for all the future consoles to have 'features' like this to enable users to 'enjoy' the expensive DVD player console

 

[Qtis]

EDIT: I wonder if it'll be possible to give a friend your disk after you've installed it and they can just purchase an "activation" for it online, but install from the disk. Might be good in areas with slower internet and few/no physical game shops.

That's pretty much what MS is trying to do. The disc includes all installs sans patches, but requires an activation for XBL. Presumably it will be possible to play the game (for free) at your friend's place if the account is logged in and the console phones home every hour compared to the 24 hours of the main console

 

[SifJar]

That's pretty much what MS is trying to do. The disc includes all installs sans patches, but requires an activation for XBL. Presumably it will be possible to play the game (for free) at your friend's place if the account is logged in and the console phones home every hour compared to the 24 hours of the main console

Yeah I know that, I meant installing the game on their account, not playing it on their console with your own account. In other words, each person would purchase a copy of the game, but only one disc would be used to install multiple times, to save bandwidth/a journey to a game store.

i.e. Person A buys disc, Person A installs game with disc and uses the activation included in the price of the game, Person B borrows disc, Person B purchases game on XBL, Person B installs game from disc instead of downloading from XBL.