hi, As you can see i have only made a few postings, an have been reading since the weekend ready to made a definite next step. currently pal 3.1 with wiikey (original never been updated to 1.9g) have added homebrew channel via twilight hack. have placed ciosrev13 in my apps file. it is now the only app within the homebrew channel. added bootmii 2 , and performed a nand backup. copies made! today i intend to run cios38rev13 above through the homebrew channel, connect through wifi...and run waninkokos 4.1 online installer. i understand i can then run the trucha bug restorer as my homebrew channel should be still operative. ( some guides seem to suggest the trucha should still be intact at this point. IS there anything else i should do prior to the waninkoko installer. i have read about an ios60 patched file...but i get the impression this is to be applied if necessary after my update to 4.1 should i have any more apps/updates ready to rock and roll within my apps file prior to the update.? can i definitely go from 3.1 ro 4.1, as some guides seem to conflict, and suggest 3.2 to 4.1 these questions have come from reading guides on a number of forums over the past few days, i appreciate your time in reading, but some conflicts in what i have read have made me a little nervous!! cheers for any postings!