Worth buying 3DS primarily for DS games and cart?

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by Glottiz, May 4, 2012.

  1. Glottiz

    Glottiz Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Hi guys, I'm very much interested in buying a 3DS (or DS, but mostly 3DS). I would play some 3DS games on it but mostly DS, because DS library is huge and 3DS not so much, yet.
    So my question is it worth it to get 3DS primary for use with flashcart and DS games or not? Will I live in constant fear of new firmware disabling my cart? What about new 3DS games that want to update FW? I really don't want to buy 3DS and end up with situation like PS3 where can't play any new games :(
  2. TheZoc

    TheZoc GBAtemp Regular

    Apr 6, 2009
    Rio de Janeiro
    I have a 3DS but I don't have a flashcart for it. Still, it's definitely worth! The list of titles is growing steadily and there's some great quality games in.

    About the flashcart... well, it seems people wait for firmware updates. So, as long you don't update on day #1, you should be safe.

    In any case, 3DS is giving me an amazing experience as console. I highly recommend it!
  3. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy ~I have crippling depression~

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    Jul 15, 2009
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    Go for the 3DS, and to maximize your functionality with it, I'd pick up a Supercard DSTWO, since it has the ability to emulate GBA and SNES games directly on its onboard CPU (albeit not perfectly, but very well, in my opinion). The cart is updated usually within a single day after a firmware update on the 3DS, and in the chance you forget that you should always wait to update until you can update your card first, the DSTWO can actually update itself (provided you give it the properly named file) even if the system has blocked it.
  4. SuperMoLOL

    SuperMoLOL Member

    Apr 10, 2012
    Iraq - Baghdad
    3ds is a piece of art
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  5. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!

    Oct 22, 2011
    Gambia, The
    A 3DS with a Supercard DSTWO and with a good microSD card is well although the menu looks like crap (-> upscaled screen).
    That function is very dangerous and you shouldn't use it.
    Yes, you are right but you must clean it all the time.
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  6. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    Choose not to upscale it then.

    Info please?
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  7. Ammako

    Ammako GBAtemp Guru

    Dec 22, 2009
    You mentioned that you planned on playing some 3DS games, in which case it would be worth it.
    That is because if you bought a DS Lite (Or a DSi), you wouldn't be able to play the 3DS games.
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  8. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy ~I have crippling depression~

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    How? Give it the properly named update file, leave it be at the menu for a few minutes, and reboot.

    Very dangerous as if you were to brick? Initiate the updater on another cart on a DS Lite, and swap it out. Your argument is invalid.
  9. synce

    synce だいこんちゃんのだいふぁん

    Nov 5, 2009
    United States
    That sounds like a huge waste of money. There's actually a few decent 3DS games right now but I think it's wiser to wait for a redesign or hack, whichever comes first.
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  10. Aftcomet

    Aftcomet Advanced Member

    Mar 24, 2012
    The analog stick alone makes DS much MUCH better.
  11. DiscostewSM

    DiscostewSM GBAtemp Guru

    Feb 10, 2009
    United States
    Sacramento, California
    I don't get it.
  12. Eerpow

    Eerpow *swoosh*

    Sep 14, 2009
    He probably means 3DS and circle pad.
  13. EyeZ

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    If you can afford it then yeah get the 3DS, if you get a DS and the 3DS games that you would like to play get released, you will have regrets.
  14. granville

    granville GBAtemp Goat

    Aug 24, 2007
    United States
    Orlando, Florida
    You can use the circle pad with any regular DS game (even those played on a flashcard). It won't register analog movement (soft or hard presses) and it will still function with 8 digital directions, but the smooth feel of the circle pad improved most DS games immensely for me. Plus it's much easier to pull off diagonals.

    Anyways, to the TC- I can't speak for you but i upgraded from a DS Lite to a 3DS and found it worth it personally. The only caveat is that DS games will be slightly blurrier due to upscaling to a higher resolution (you can play DS games in original resolution but the view will be very small). I didn't mind this blur at all though, it's only really noticeable if you know exactly what the games should look like anyways IMO. I made a basic comparison on what the difference is-

    I wanted to play 3DS games however, so i didn't have any reservations in going from DS to 3DS. If the 3DS library or its future strikes any interest with you, i say go for it. You'll be set for the future if you ever want a 3DS game or whatever, and it will do everything a normal DS will do (sans anything requiring the GBA slot). Though i will say the obvious in that redesigns are inevitable if you'd like to wait for a while to see what a newer remodel of the 3DS might look like. That's entirely up to you however. No telling when such a thing will happen.

    As for flashcards and Nintendo blocking them, that is always a danger you're going to face and it will likely happen. The most recent update that arrived several days ago did indeed block most popular flashcards. The more popular ones are fixed very fast however. I own a Supercard DSTWO personally and they had an update out to bypass the flashcard block within just a couple of hours. The trick to dealing with this is to get one from a good and responsive team like Supercard (DSTWO is a great cart and considered by many including myself to be the best one currently out, Team Supercard has been making cards for quite a long time).

    You should avoid updating the 3DS itself until you're certain your card is in a state where it will work with the latest 3DS software. If it's not, just play it safe and avoid updating the 3DS until you've updated your flashcard with a fix. Though as someone stated, the DSTWO has some extra hardware inside where it can actually update itself even if the 3DS software blocks it. I haven't ever tried it (i've always just waited to update the 3DS until my DSTWO was guaranteed to function properly), but it's said to work as long as you follow the instructions well enough. Another great advantage of the Supercard DSTWO. What Technicmaster0 said is apparently only true if you don't follow the proper steps, like turn the system off or mess around with the card while it's updating (which has a chance of bricking your DSTWO). There's a guide in regards to this in this thread-

    Some flashcart dealers also sell DSTWO's with the latest firmware already flashed to them. I got mine last year from Modchip Central, they pre-flashed it to work with the latest 3DS software at the time. And it did work fine when i got it. You can contact them to see whether they do this for the newest recent 3DS update as well.
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  15. beta4attack

    beta4attack GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Nov 16, 2011
    The world that never was
    Kid Icarus: Uprising says it all..... Nuff said. I for one had a DS Lite and the 3DS was a HUGE leap for me, it's better in every way possible than a DS Lite. If you really want to play some good games, go get it. But if you want to wait for a new release you might need to wait a year or two.
  16. DiscostewSM

    DiscostewSM GBAtemp Guru

    Feb 10, 2009
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    Sacramento, California
    My brain was fried at the time. I thought he meant because of the circle pad, the DS was much better, not DS games were much better on the 3DS. The former not making sense.
  17. 59672

    59672 GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 14, 2009
    Is it worth it to buy a 3ds, yes. Is it worth it just to play DS games, I wouldn't say so. WIll you want to play 3ds games at some point, highly likely I'd say.
  18. Another World

    Another World Emulate the Planet!

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    Jan 3, 2008
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    the 3ds is a huge waste of money if you are only going to use it to do "ds things". you would be better off grabbing an xl.

    -another world
  19. demonicstrife

    demonicstrife *INSERTGENERICTITLE*

    May 22, 2008
    United States
    Somewhere in the middle
    Not if you're only gonna use it for DS games. It's called a 3DS for a reason; none of the DS games actually benefit from anything on that system, other than the circle pad as a control medium, yeah. But you're better getting a DSi. In fact, DS games look blurrier due to the 3DS' higher resolution, and the games being upscaled.
  20. Snailface

    Snailface My frothing demand for 3ds homebrew is increasing

    Sep 20, 2010
    Engine Room with Cyan, watching him learn.
    The 3DS's built-in software alone can keep you occupied for a long time and it does everything a DS can do.
    The 3DS has many promising years ahead of it -- the DS is hooked-up to life support. (B&W 2 is its last gasp of air, and the 3DS can play those games anyway)

    The 3DS is a smarter choice.
    I've had a lot of gripes about it, but it has grown on me in the last year.
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