Normally I am front and centre on the "JPRG is a stupid term and genre is not much better" support rally but I am suspending that for the time being/this thread. JPRG = anything that does not want to be Ultima or Might and Magic/elder scrolls. Largely developed somewhere in Asia would be nice but ports/remakes might trouble things and devs aping the style have happened so the definition is pretty fluid. That got me curious, despite technically missing the PS2 era as far as such things went I have Final Fantasy clone burnout and the last few years having provided me with some great things (Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and though technically a KRPG MagnaCarta 2 frequently make my lists of things I liked this last go around) so "worst" is an interesting thing here. Surprisingly I am pretty discerning when it comes to this sort of thing and my "legendary titles you have not played list" probably warrants a few more entries (never did any persona games, Shin Megami Tensei- what is that, Dragon Quest - I at least know what that is and word association for "tales of" is "the crypt") so who knows. Starting as the thread means to go on for me it probably has to be Chrono trigger. "But FAST6191 it is a legendary title", indeed it is and that is why I went to the effort of attempting to get into it and wondering what was up when it had almost bored me to tears after many hours. Sword of mana I did half like but wonder how it got so well liked I will never know. Now I did do FF13 (was coming off a good time with magna carta 2 and resonance of fate was not out in English in a few weeks time at this point) and it was a boring slog through corridors with a badly told story. Now previous FF titles have not had the most coherent story (either because it was basic, because it was just bad or they tried to tell 5 stories, 3 at once and 2 once a couple of the others had drawn to a close) but this was a cut above that, all that ought to come with the disclaimer that aside from 5 minutes of a demo I got with a PS1 rerelease of an old title I never did 10. I figure I can ignore FF3 as it was just a remake of an old game, a nice history lesson but not a great game and by similar logic I believe we do not speak about the GBA remake/port of Lunar (Lunar Legend). The DS game "Lunar Dragon Song" however can die in a fire- it would not be so bad but for years it was the only option for those looking for a JPRG on the DS. Black Sigil on the DS was clearly a game that started out on the GBA and was best played with experience multiplier cheats (to this day the only DS game I have used cheats on for more than 30 seconds in a test or when developing them for others) but it tried some interesting things as far as story went so I will go it. Failing that Phantasy star 3 finds itself not being looked at favourably, 2 was great and 4 was legendary but 3 can go rot for all I care. In all fairness though it possibly suffered from might as well use the name of the franchise and was not that bad of a game. On the PSP it turns out I can really take or leave Crimson Gem Saga. Just to finish the essence of raw flamebait vial I popped for this- Kingdom hearts.... just no and, despite having never played it, Xenoblade is a joke and those that did the "bring these games to North America" thing for those three games it found itself part of are fools.