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Status quo: Right now the US could satisfy one third of their total energy needs with power generated with wind turbines.

Now the Japanese found a way to triple the energy output of wind turbines.

So it becomes possible and even cheaper to live from wind power. Not to mention water and solar energy or even coal to fill additional gaps.

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Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.

Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). it would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies.

It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.

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QUOTEThe International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possess 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.

Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hour's of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).

The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).

Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources. Well such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens."

Source: http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-inn...per-than-nuclea

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Research from Kyushu University: http://www.riam.kyushu-u.ac.jp/windeng/en_...s_detail04.html
Another article: http://news.discovery.com/tech/lens-wind-t...nify-power.html
 

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Clearly You have not got your Information correct, The Nissan leaf travels around 100 km per charge, is totally ev, and goes Normal road speeds, the Chevy Volt is a range extended hybrid and travels about 60km per charge but instead of having a gasoline engine for the car has an electric engine and uses a gas motor to generate power for that powertrain. allowing it to travel up to 500-600kms per tank of gas, and you plug in in
 

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cosmiccow said:
Status quo: Right now the US could satisfy one third of their total energy needs with power generated with wind turbines.

Now the Japanese found a way to triple the energy output of wind turbines.
one third times three is... ALL OF THE POWERS!!!
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if anyone believes that countries WANT this type of energy and the USA really WANTS to be "green" you are an idiot.

they will NEVER get this country away from fossil fuels, there is too much money to be made for the government, and the oil companies will not let this happen. its sad but true. this is one conspiracy theory that i think is no longer a conspiracy.

seriously, its 2011, there is a ridiculous amount of knowledge out there and things can be done to help the masses, but the government refuses to do this. sad but true.
 

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Valwin said:
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is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles

o joy those sweet cards that take 6 hours to charge and run for 3 hours at 30mph

If you knew what you are talking about, you'd know that most fully electric card manage more than 100 miles at usual driving speeds. Also the charging time is irrelevant, as all you need to do is them into a regular outlet when you're not using them. The cost of charging an electric car is usually a lot less than the cost of the equivalent amount of gasoline/petrol, even in the US where your gas is a lot cheaper than here.
The only thing stopping electric cars from being a mass success is the propaganda being spread by oil companies about how crap they are, when really, for regular town drivers they are better.


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this is not gonna happen, because oil companies and the people behind them won't let it. it takes away the dependency for oil, which is very bad for their respective business.

i imagine small projects enough to power a community or two would be appearing, but any bigger than that and i'll expect proposals to start getting shot down at every opportunity, maybe even some people dying.
 

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Fishaman P said:
And yet the article never explained how it works.

Yes it does at 1:40, the shape of the fin creates a low pressure area, which pulls in air. The more/faster the air is pulled towards the turbine the faster it goes. The same principle is used in lift aircraft off the ground.
 

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I can see this happening if big oil start investing in wind power even buying out all of the plants. That's right big oil get with the times and focus your greed on something worthwhile because oil is slowly going out of fashion.
 

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spinal_cord said:
Valwin said:
QUOTE said:
is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles

o joy those sweet cards that take 6 hours to charge and run for 3 hours at 30mph

If you knew what you are talking about, you'd know that most fully electric card manage more than 100 miles at usual driving speeds. Also the charging time is irrelevant, as all you need to do is them into a regular outlet when you're not using them. The cost of charging an electric car is usually a lot less than the cost of the equivalent amount of gasoline/petrol, even in the US where your gas is a lot cheaper than here.
The only thing stopping electric cars from being a mass success is the propaganda being spread by oil companies about how crap they are, when really, for regular town drivers they are better.


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the funny thing is that i do know what i am talking about
 

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I think electromobiles are a perfect application for hydrogen fuel cells. Lithium, which is used for high-density batteries, is too scarce to use it in the large batteries cars need (and it is used anyway - way to get rid of resource-dependency...), and have the problem of requiring charging, which takes time. Hydrogen fuel cells, while their efficiency is somewhat lower, can be refilled at stations like combustion engines can, but their fuel can be generated without significant depletion of resources if you have a source of energy for that, enabling extension of their range with fuel stations similar to conventional vehicles, a solution I would certainly prefer over lithium batteries, despite potentially higher cost and space requirements.
 

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deathking said:
current wind power is a joke , it produces no power and people living near it report head aches and other illnesses
As far as I'm aware, no one has been able to differentiate them from placebo illnesses.

At least they no longer explode bat lungs.... sorta.
 

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