Will X get me banned? If I do Y will Nintendo still detect me? [Information]

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by linuxares, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. linuxares
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    Since we got multiple threads where people ask this over and over let's make it clear.
    We know nothing how Nintendo will detect homebrew, backup loaders, save editing or any of those things at the moment (2018-06-14)

    No, Emunand won't make you safe.
    No, deleting past history at the moment won't make you safe.
    No, going from CFW to OFW will not make you safe.

    At the moment we don't even know if they can detect you booting RCM. They might already have that info.

    You hack your console, you take a risk. A risk to get banned.
    Else the only sure fire way not to get banned is to pay and play legit. Buy your games, buy your DLCs, don't use cheats.
     
  2. jimmyj

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    they can't since hekate deletes the boot reason.
     
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  3. XerSec

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    I think it's really important that people get this through their head.
    I dread for the day where Nintendo feels like they have enough information and start a massive banwave.
    Like I'll be honest, I'm not confident enough to even enter RCM mode on my legit switch. I caved and bought a second (which I understand isn't a possibility for many) just to even tempt the thought of hacking it.

    Be careful guys, if they ban you, that potentially includes eshop access (so bye bye to all your digital purchases)
     
  4. linuxares
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    linuxares I'm not a generous god!

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    Yet again, you don't know this. No one knows if they can and cannot detect it. They might see it but don't give a damn about it.
     
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  5. MeAndHax

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    If people wouldnt be hyping „getting banned“ so much, then it probably wouldn’t exist
     
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  6. Jackson98

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    Its still way to early to speculate for me, only time will tell. The reality is so far noone but people that have been known to send multiple invalid/dodgy requests to the CDN, and people that have hacked in online games(splatoon mainly) have had any problems. Plenty of people are currently running an incomplete version of Hekate/Atmosphere and have had no issues. Will something change in the future? Maybe. The best way to play it safe is wait a while till more news comes out.
    If nintendo bans people from using the eshop though, they are effectively taking away something that is going to very likely bring them money. So I don't see them running around banning everyone that uses a CFW right out, especially since at the moment all it offers is retro emulation(if were talking atmosphere), and considering they haven't given anyone a virtual console to use, they aren't losing any money from it as of right now.
     
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  7. DaveLister

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    X will most def get you banned But Y tho.
     
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  8. Masacci0

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    To be fair if someone isn't interested in online playing, eventually all the rest will be available to do offline even if banned, i mean we're already nearing the possibility to install eshop games, the same way we will be able to install updates and dlcs. What else do you need?
     
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    and anoher useless thread with no information
     
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  10. Peabutt

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    Thanks for addressing this. Some people seem to think that they 100% in the clear with emu-NAND, etc. Even though we have gotten away with it on past Nintendo consoles doesn't mean that they haven't learned a thing or two over the years. Granted we could be fine and in the clear but we really dont know and should be realistic here. Anytime you are modifying something like this you run the risk of getting banned.
     
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    https://gbatemp.net/threads/rcm-payload-hekate-ctcaer-mod.502604/page-36
     
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  12. Can

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    Personally, it's well worth the risk to be able to have a portable emulation machine, even if i get banned. I've got all the games i want, the only games that i'm interested in that has online multiplayer is spla2n... No worries for some of us.
     
  13. cyfaws

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    I agree, and also hope you're right about the eShop stuff. Would really be a bummer to miss out on the eShop stuff. I'd like to be able to have the option to buy games that deserve it, even if I'm not, shall we say, following the EULA to the letter when they're not looking ;)
     
  14. mariogamer

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    Using RCM itself (even with joycon pins soldered (in that case the the current is modified, but they can 't just ban someone because of this)) isn't detectable. Also they don't have a reason to ban everyone, only people who are pirating games. Booting in Horizon with hekate wouldn't be a reason too. (if simmilar/identical to official booting)

    Again to early too speculate.... I'd just love they ain't banning people using homebrew. (Even tho that means breaking the EULA and is a reason to get banned)
     
  15. Draxzelex

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    They can't detect who enters RCM or not but they can detect methods used to enter RCM such as checking the voltage of pin 10 or if the BCT is corrupt. Whether or not they will ban people due to these alone is speculation.
     
  16. mariogamer

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    They can't if you use a wire or anything else (eg. Not soldered)
     
  17. Draxzelex

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    Exactly hence why its not currently recommended to keep a soldered pin connection in the Switch. At the same time, we have to remember that this is Nintendo we're talking about. Even if it security has been clearly beefed up, the only way to tell is by the number of people getting banned.
     
  18. Don Jon

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    nothing but propoganda designed to scare the community by schills
    yes we know nothing
    we dont know tha we will be safe
     
  19. Kafluke

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    @ OP

    As long as you keep this thread updated I think I will help. Trust me, it's a committment.
     
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