will transferring pokemon from Japanese green work on an english console

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  1. hacksn5s4
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    so when pokebank is updated for the pokemon vc will it work with green on an english console because i installed the cia of it
     


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    I don't think Green will work on an English Console when Bank gets updated.
     
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    Frankly, I can't bet it will or not. It *could*, but there's no way of knowing until then.
     
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    using regoin emulation may work if it does not work normaly
     
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    actually no.

    attempting to load pokebank with region emulation forces it to hang, I assume same issue with poketransporter.

    They could lock the transporter to only look for titles with the correct title ID that relates to the region..
     
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    It might but no one knows until January. :/
     
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    eh could just trade the pokemon to red or blue or yellow vc but it causes the games to glitch if you do that maybe if you use the english translation hack it will not glitch up and the trade will work

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    pokebank does not seem to be regoin locked though because it works with Japanese pokemon x and y and oras carts on an english console

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    pokebank does not seem to be regoin locked though because it works with Japanese pokemon x and y and oras carts on an english console
     
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    also no.

    Translation hacked roms' save offsets are likely different, or the pokemon data are likely different,
    and it will in turn cause Poketransporter to be unable to recognize the data or corrupt the pokemon.

    Your best bet is to pass someone your save,
    then get the to transport and trade it to you.

    edit:

    Pokebank isn't region locked, because XYORAS across regions use the same title ID,

    and the data is handled and saved the same.

    However, Gen I pokemon have their data saved differently across regions,
    and also they have different title IDs
     
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    well it could work pokebank works with out of regoin oras and x and y carts and also bw so im guessing theres a good chance of it working
     
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    Chances are super low.

    your example for XYORAS is a bad example;
    Pokebank isn't region locked regarding XYORAS, cause XYORAS across regions use the same title ID, and the data is handled and saved the same way.

    However, Gen I pokemon have their data saved differently across regions,
    and also they have different title IDs. (reason why you can download JPN and ENG Pokemon red, and you can end up having both)

    Hence, it's like poketransporter will be locked to only find the correct title ID for the correct region.
     
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    blues kinda the same as the Japanese green so i guess it does not matter
     
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    Wrong once again.

    Save offsets are different.
    Amount of Boxes in PC is different between Japanese and English.

    Trying using a Pokemon Green Save file on a purely English Pokemon Red/Blue save editor, watch your save corrupt.


    that is exactly what happens if poketransporter isn't safeguarded to grab the data from the correct save offset.

    It isn't just magic and extracts your data.
    Everything has to be programmed correctly..
     
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    Indeed, I remember trying to trade from my original JP Red cart to my Pokemon Blue. It was messed up.
     
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    Yeah it's precisely that.
    That's why for the West, there was no JPN pokemon gen I save editor, because the offsets were different and not known,
    until it was discovered and subsequently implemented by SciresM (Rhydon Editor)

    (and we can't just dump a JP pk1 to a EN save, because the nickname characters are encoded different: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Character_encoding_in_Generation_I)

    Also, the fact that the OP is so adamant about Pokemon Green, I have a feeling it's related to a particular Mew save...


    Anyhow,
    Ones best bets are:
    1. get someone to transfer up the Pokemon for you then trade in S/M
    2. pray that poketransporter has universal title id recognition, not locked behind region wall. (though that may cause legitimacy issues after transfer)


    Edit:
    I'll be posting the .pk7 for the VC Mew event when the time comes.
    I've got a japanese N3DSLL and subscription for Pokebank, as well as Pokemon Green ready to move!
     
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    what do you mean? Mew can be obtained on EU/US Blue/Red too.




    He is pretty ugly in Red 1.0/Green tho.


    I have a Green cartridge somewhere.... I have to get a JP Red 1.1 and EU Red. And while I'm at it, buy Yellow from Japan.







    I really only got Red 1.0 for the ugly sprites. Really, Red 1.1/Red EU/US is so much prettier :D
     
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    no i meant the pokemon you can catch are the same not the game itself and greens in Japanese so just play blue instead

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    thing is i think pokebank app is the same for all regoins
     
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    Sorry for jumping the gun.
    That is true; International Blue encounter roster is based on Japanese Green.

    Yeah, they're ugly on Green XD

    Actually there's only one Legitimate Mew distributed for VC Gen I, and it was only available to Japan.

    Also, that Mew had differences from glitched Mew, so if they wanted to, they could block all the glitched Mews from being moved.

    I originally was playing on JP Green on a US console, and decided to move my save to my JP console, to prevent such issues from happening.
     
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    Green isn't the same as Blue. Red (1.0)/Green have different sprites than Red (1.1) / Blue, for starters.
     
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    Pretty sure he's talking about only encounter roster itself.

    International Red and Blue used Japanese Blue engine and sprites,
    International Red use Japanese Red encounter roster and,
    International Blue used Japanese Green Encounter roster.

    While the Pokebank app and Poketransporter app is definitely the same, they could use Poketransporter to detect 3DS region,
    and lookup for the correct title id (meaning blocking incorrect title IDs)

    Which we know exists; wondercards server connection is based on 3DS region, not cartridge region (tested when region free is bypassed).
     
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    Just a shot in the dark but would installing Japanese Pokebank maybe work?

    Edit-Nevermind, answered already.