Today, April 8th, 2024, at 4PM PT, marks the day in which Nintendo permanently ends support for both the 3DS and the Wii U online services, which include co-op play, internet rankings and data distribution, according to Nintendo's own news post.

This means that games that heavily rely on online services, like the original Super Mario Maker for Wii U (and 3DS), Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon's online multiplayer, and several other games will effectively stop working, more so for Super Mario Maker since that game is entirely relying on online user-created levels for the gaming experience.

However, all is not lost, as the fan and homebrew community is here to save the day (as is always the case), even in the most dire of events like the closure of all online service for said consoles, with the great community network known as Pretendo.

Pretendo is basically an entirely open source project that aims to replace Nintendo's network for both the 3DS and the Wii U, and even their respective emulators like Citra (or its forks given its recent demise) and Cemu, which will allow all users to interconnect with each other even after the demise of Nintendo's own servers later today, and while their compatibility isn't entirely 100%, they developers behind the Pretendo network are still hard at work developing the service so that more and more games get proper compatibility.

Those interested in trying out the Pretendo network can follow their own installation instructions found at their site, which includes installation guides for both Citra (or its forks) and Cemu, and in the case of the original hardware, the user will require a hacked console, be it a hacked 3DS and/or a hacked Wii U, depending on which console the user has. Just be aware that your current Nintendo ID (and everything that it entices, like friends list and other things) will not be carried over to the Pretendo servers, as Nintendo's servers hold that data, and repurposing the original ID for Pretendo could pose a severe privacy violation, so a new ID will need to be created for usage with Pretendo's servers.

A recommendation for a more detailed look into the Pretendo network is a recently released video by renowned game developer and homebrew enthusiast, Modern Vintage Gamer (MVG), gives takes a deeper dive into it, as well as its current status, usage, game tests and installation of the fanmade network into your own consoles.

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Pretendo Network

 

[chazdoesstuff]

I can't tell if you're being intentionally dense or not. What I said was that you changed my sentence into a totally different sentence. Which is exactly what happened. Which is what that Tweet also demonstrated, as a cheeky example/comparison. The changing of someone's words into something else entirely, which IS what you did. There is a vast difference between "having the capacity and not doing", and "not having the capacity", and I struggle to understand how you do not see that difference



This is just a completely incorrect and asinine interpretation of things. These are not comparable at all. (you're also just wrong, we do have extra features, and even your example of Pokemon games is wrong. Counterfeit Emerald carts can, indeed, trade with each other. I literally own several gen 3 counterfeit carts, and have traded between them)

Also I say again, SaveMii is not a brick risk and in all my time in the scene I have seen 0 reported cases of a full system brick from using it, while seeing many tens of thousands of people use it with no issue. I have no idea where you got this idea from that you're somehow going to destroy your system from moving a game save



Except that you did, intentionally or not, misrepresent several points. Which is exactly what I corrected in my original message. Did you fail to read anything I've said previously? I very clearly laid out the exact points you misrepresented, with their corrections. You aren't being blunt. You're being straight up incorrect. And that brings no one any satisfaction



I will say again for the last time, no one said it was a "forbidden/impossible challenge that can never be done". What I said is that there's no viable way to do this in a secure way and without causing significant bloat to other systems for realistically 0 real benefit. The FAQ on our website literally says this (which, again, I had already pointed out to you):

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No one has ever said this was "impossible". Please learn the difference. I have already told you exactly why this doesn't work the way you want it to, multiple times now, with all the reasons, and I even explained on the GitHub issue exactly what it WOULD take to accomplish this and why it's still a bad idea, which is why we won't be putting energy into it. If you refuse to actually read any of that and understand why, then that's on you. I'm not debating that any further either. But you consistently insist on misquoting and misrepresenting what was said, which is what is leading to these corrections

This also isn't a matter of "fully developing Pretendo". Just because something doesn't work the way you want it to does not make it a "missing feature". Sorry, but that's just not how this works. Just because you personally think a feature should exist does not suddenly make it a "missing feature" counting towards something being "not fully developed", that's once again completely asinine

I have no misunderstanding of what you mean. I know full well what you mean, what you want, and how you think these things work. And what I'm telling you is that you're wrong, on all points, and are refusing to listen to reason. You seem to be the one who has no real idea as to how these things work, and you seem to be adamant about not fully reading/comprehending the reasons as to why there is no real path forward to do this efficiently and securely




I will continue to "flood the thread" so long as you still need correcting on the matter. Also, this thread is about Pretendo. If you're going to be wrong about what we've said about our development plans, then correcting those mistakes is perfectly within the bounds of the thread's topic. If anything, you tangenting off to talk about the eShop the way you did is "flooding the thread" as it has really nothing to do with Pretendo. As I've said, so long as you say things which need correcting, I have full intentions of coming back and correcting them

" "having the capacity and not doing", and "not having the capacity", and I struggle to understand how you do not see that difference" Jesus christ reread what I've already said, I'm not getting the 2 confused, I'm only referring to ONE, which I have been TRYING to explain. And don't call me dense, that's rude.

"No one has ever said this was "impossible". Please learn the difference." Learn the implications of saying "it can't be done" as well as "theres no viable way to do it" the connotations of there being no way to do something viably makes it viably impossible.


"SaveMii is not a brick risk and in all my time in the scene I have seen 0 reported cases of a full system brick from using it" doubt, literally anything can brick a Wii U, it does not take much.

"Counterfeit Emerald carts can, indeed, trade with each other." Not all of them, most can't even hold a save let alone trade with eachother.

"I have no misunderstanding of what you mean. I know full well what you mean, what you want, and how you think these things work." I heavily doubt that, I've changed every previous iteration of the method for the suggestion with every piece of criticism you gave me, and even then, the general idea goes far beyond my ability to construct the methodology and then translate that into words from how it's visualised in the mind, the general concept is possible, even if my own attempts of constructing a map to that possibility fall short in several areas.


Also, please stop saying you're done debating and all that jazz when you're (to your own admission) going back here and flooding this thread, the people here don't want a thread flooded by an argument they don't care about.

 

[RedDucks]

Jesus christ reread what I've already said, I'm not getting the 2 confused, I'm only referring to ONE, which I have been TRYING to explain. And don't call me dense, that's rude.

Correct, you are only talking about one of those phrases. The incorrect one. Every time I have said anything along the lines of "not worth putting energy into", you have then rephrased that as something along the lines of "do not have the energy". Which are 2 different sentences. You can be wrong all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. You took what I said and made a completely different sentence out of it, something I did not say (which seems to be a common theme here, you misrepresenting and changing my words)

"No one has ever said this was "impossible". Please learn the difference." Learn the implications of saying "it can't be done" as well as "theres no viable way to do it" the connotations of there being no way to do something viably makes it viably impossible.

I know the difference. The issue is that you're the only one who's said anything along the lines of "it can't be done". You spoke those words, not me. All I've said is that there is no viable way forward in a secure and efficient way. Nowhere in anything that I've said have I said it literally cannot physically be done, quite the opposite. I have acknowledged in numerous places, including here, the original GitHub thread, and even on our website's FAQ, that on a purely technical level something akin to what you want can be done. That does NOT mean that there is a viable way to do so safely and efficiently

You taking what I said to mean something completely different is no one's fault but your own. I have stated numerous times exactly what our position is, it's your job to read and understand that

"SaveMii is not a brick risk and in all my time in the scene I have seen 0 reported cases of a full system brick from using it" doubt, literally anything can brick a Wii U, it does not take much.

You can doubt all you want, that doesn't make it true. And no, not "literally anything" can brick the Wii U. Especially these days when recovery tools are abundant, you can even recover from a totally fried NAND these days. Messing with a game save does not pose a brick risk. I have done save modifications on dozens of games, many of which were failed attempts, and there have been no bricks. Doubt all you want, but again that doesn't make it true

"I have no misunderstanding of what you mean. I know full well what you mean, what you want, and how you think these things work." I heavily doubt that, I've changed every previous iteration of the method for the suggestion with every piece of criticism you gave me, and even then, the general idea goes far beyond my ability to construct the methodology and then translate that into words from how it's visualised in the mind, the general concept is possible, even if my own attempts of constructing a map to that possibility fall short in several areas.

You've only actually proposed 2 real "methods" (I guess 3, but the 3rd one hardly counts). That's a far cry from "changed every previous iteration". Your only real proposed methods were:

1. Completely disregarding authentication

2. Make "mirror" accounts

3. If you could even call this a "method", all you said was "something like Automated SaveMii with a couple of extra steps for multiplayer"

The first 2 I provided complete explanations as to why they are not viable, parts of which I have already reiterated here as part of my previous corrections. The 3rd is hardly even a "method", and provides nothing of real substance to even rebuttal against. You claim that SaveMii is a brick risk (of which it is not), yet then propose "automated SaveMii", and some ambiguous "extra steps for multiplayer". That's not a "revision of methods", that's a nothing burger

The fact that you claim that these things are viable, and so easily, while remaining secure and efficient, yet simultaneously admitting that it's beyond you to actually propose the methodology to accomplish said goals is genuinely astonishing to me. You can't claim to know something works while having no actual idea how to accomplish that. That's like if I went into a construction yard and told the workers there that it would be much easier to use paper rather than concrete, then told them it was "beyond me" to come up with the actual explanation as to how, and fought back against them when they told me that I was wrong. You can't just be an "idea guy" and then complain when the people who know how these things actually work tell you your idea is bad, that's not how this works

Also, please stop saying you're done debating and all that jazz when you're (to your own admission) going back here and flooding this thread, the people here don't want a thread flooded by an argument they don't care about.

I'll say it again, since you seem to be misunderstanding this as well. I said I'm done debating *the original topic*. I'm not debating with you the viability of the idea. What I AM doing is correcting everything you're saying that's wrong, THAT is what I've said I will continue to do. Again, 2 different concepts

If you want it to stop, either quit being wrong or stop responding to it, or block me and move on. As I said, so long as you continue to be wrong I will correct it

 

[chazdoesstuff]

Correct, you are only talking about one of those phrases. The incorrect one. Every time I have said anything along the lines of "not worth putting energy into", you have then rephrased that as something along the lines of "do not have the energy". Which are 2 different sentences. You can be wrong all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. You took what I said and made a completely different sentence out of it, something I did not say (which seems to be a common theme here, you misrepresenting and changing my words)



I know the difference. The issue is that you're the only one who's said anything along the lines of "it can't be done". You spoke those words, not me. All I've said is that there is no viable way forward in a secure and efficient way. Nowhere in anything that I've said have I said it literally cannot physically be done, quite the opposite. I have acknowledged in numerous places, including here, the original GitHub thread, and even on our website's FAQ, that on a purely technical level something akin to what you want can be done. That does NOT mean that there is a viable way to do so safely and efficiently

You taking what I said to mean something completely different is no one's fault but your own. I have stated numerous times exactly what our position is, it's your job to read and understand that



You can doubt all you want, that doesn't make it true. And no, not "literally anything" can brick the Wii U. Especially these days when recovery tools are abundant, you can even recover from a totally fried NAND these days. Messing with a game save does not pose a brick risk. I have done save modifications on dozens of games, many of which were failed attempts, and there have been no bricks. Doubt all you want, but again that doesn't make it true



You've only actually proposed 2 real "methods" (I guess 3, but the 3rd one hardly counts). That's a far cry from "changed every previous iteration". Your only real proposed methods were:

1. Completely disregarding authentication

2. Make "mirror" accounts

3. If you could even call this a "method", all you said was "something like Automated SaveMii with a couple of extra steps for multiplayer"

The first 2 I provided complete explanations as to why they are not viable, parts of which I have already reiterated here as part of my previous corrections. The 3rd is hardly even a "method", and provides nothing of real substance to even rebuttal against. You claim that SaveMii is a brick risk (of which it is not), yet then propose "automated SaveMii", and some ambiguous "extra steps for multiplayer". That's not a "revision of methods", that's a nothing burger

The fact that you claim that these things are viable, and so easily, while remaining secure and efficient, yet simultaneously admitting that it's beyond you to actually propose the methodology to accomplish said goals is genuinely astonishing to me. You can't claim to know something works while having no actual idea how to accomplish that. That's like if I went into a construction yard and told the workers there that it would be much easier to use paper rather than concrete, then told them it was "beyond me" to come up with the actual explanation as to how, and fought back against them when they told me that I was wrong. You can't just be an "idea guy" and then complain when the people who know how these things actually work tell you your idea is bad, that's not how this works



I'll say it again, since you seem to be misunderstanding this as well. I said I'm done debating *the original topic*. I'm not debating with you the viability of the idea. What I AM doing is correcting everything you're saying that's wrong, THAT is what I've said I will continue to do. Again, 2 different concepts

If you want it to stop, either quit being wrong or stop responding to it, or block me and move on. As I said, so long as you continue to be wrong I will correct it

"Correct, you are only talking about one of those phrases. The incorrect one. Every time I have said anything along the lines of "not worth putting energy into", you have then rephrased that as something along the lines of "do not have the energy"." No, I've used the correct one, I MEAN "not worth putting energy into" when I talk about you not putting energy into it, you are STILL misunderstanding what I'm saying. Please reread what I've been saying this whole time.

"You've only actually proposed 2 real "methods" (I guess 3, but the 3rd one hardly counts). That's a far cry from "changed every previous iteration"." Well, each method is different, so it literally isn't a "far cry"..... either way, I've said before that while any previous suggestion may not be good, the general concept is very possible.

"The fact that you claim that these things are viable" I have done no such thing, I'm claiming that the CONCEPT of using NNIDs with Pretendo is POSSIBLE.


"If you want it to stop, either quit being wrong or stop responding to it, or block me and move on. As I said, so long as you continue to be wrong I will correct it" you are flooding the thread with the excuse of "correcting me" when you don't get half of what I've been saying and claim to be over debating this but keep coming back because you dont like people recounting stuff that makes you look just a teency bit less cool or whatever, you have ruined this thread with an argument that they don't care about, if you believe you're just here to shut me up because I've said something wrong... whatever helps you sleep at night ig, but geez leave this thread alone they don't care about this, we were having a nice conversation about eshop stuff before you swung in, just let us go back to talking about stuff before you planted an argument no-one cares about here. Just leave this thread alone.

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Pretendo sucks, why did they push everyone to do network dumps at the very last minute?? I bet one day we will get a competitor to them.

That's fucked up, as if they weren't bad enough.

Is this true? I was scrolling back up the thread to pick up where I'd left off about the eshop and found this, if this is the case then I definitely won't be using it

 

[RedDucks]

"Correct, you are only talking about one of those phrases. The incorrect one. Every time I have said anything along the lines of "not worth putting energy into", you have then rephrased that as something along the lines of "do not have the energy"." No, I've used the correct one, I MEAN "not worth putting energy into" when I talk about you not putting energy into it, you are STILL misunderstanding what I'm saying. Please reread what I've been saying this whole time.

I'm directly quoting you when I say you say things like "don't have the energy". Words have meanings, I don't care what you MEAN to say when what you ARE saying is incorrect and you refused to change what you said even after repeated corrections. I have read what you've said plenty of times, and once again, you were misrepresenting what I said. If you can't understand the fact that words have meanings and you saying 1 phrase doesn't mean the other, then you're beyond help. You can tell me to "reread" as much as you like, that doesn't change the fact that what you said I said was wrong, and had a vastly different meaning to what I ACTUALLY said

To quote you FROM THIS THREAD:

they dont want to because they "dont have the energy"

Which is what I corrected in my initial reply to you. "don't have the energy" and "wont put energy into it" are 2 different things, and if you can't understand the fact that I'm correcting that misquote then like I said, you're beyond help. It doesn't matter what you MEANT. I don't care about that, because I'm not debating what you MEANT. Like I said since the beginning, I am correcting your misrepresentation of what was said. Because again, words have meanings and when you tell people we said something that wasn't said, then that's an issue

"You've only actually proposed 2 real "methods" (I guess 3, but the 3rd one hardly counts). That's a far cry from "changed every previous iteration"." Well, each method is different, so it literally isn't a "far cry".....

No, it's definitely a "far cry". The way you speak is baffling to me. You said you "changed every previous iteration", making it seem like there was far more discussion than actually happened and that you proposed far more solutions than you actually did. You gave 2 suggestions. Both of which were actually given in the opening message of the GitHub issue. You actually did not change anything about the suggestions after going back and rereading the issue, the closest thing a "change" you made was to suggest the "automated SaveMii". Which, as I said, is hardly even a "method". Everything else was just vague "but it's possible" remarks, which isn't "changing every iteration"

You are once again completely misrepresenting what actually happened

either way, I've said before that while any previous suggestion may not be good, the general concept is very possible.

Yup, and once again no one said anything about anything being "impossible". You're the only one making that assertion. Nowhere in anything I've said have I said something akin to what you want is "impossible". You're literally arguing against something I never said, which is why I have to keep correcting you

"The fact that you claim that these things are viable" I have done no such thing, I'm claiming that the CONCEPT of using NNIDs with Pretendo is POSSIBLE.

You literally did. Here's a quote from one of your other messages about this:

effectively saying all the pre-existing projects by fans for NNIDs were non-viable despite being almost perfect for the job

claiming that it's viable under the false guise that other projects have used them in the way we need to, saying they are "perfect for the job". Also the fact that you keep pushing for it to happen, and have claimed in the past that it's "simple" (as per your GitHub issue), is an argument for the viability of the idea/NNIDs. Also again, no one besides you has ever said anything about them being impossible/possible. Every single argument I've made has been about the viability of them as a secure authentication mechanism, which you consistently pushed back against. So either you had no idea what I was actually arguing, or you're arguing that they are viable. You can't have it both ways, you can't argue against my claims of viability while simultaneously claiming that you never said they were viable

"If you want it to stop, either quit being wrong or stop responding to it, or block me and move on. As I said, so long as you continue to be wrong I will correct it" you are flooding the thread with the excuse of "correcting me" when you don't get half of what I've been saying and claim to be over debating this but keep coming back because you dont like people recounting stuff that makes you look just a teency bit less cool or whatever, you have ruined this thread with an argument that they don't care about, if you believe you're just here to shut me up because I've said something wrong... whatever helps you sleep at night ig, but geez leave this thread alone they don't care about this, we were having a nice conversation about eshop stuff before you swung in, just let us go back to talking about stuff before you planted an argument no-one cares about here. Just leave this thread alone.

It's not about "looking cool", not sure where you got that idea. As I've said numerous times, you came in here and spouted nonsense misrepresentations of things that happened, and I corrected those. Nothing more, and nothing less. You can think whatever you want about it, but that's what happened. I've left plenty of quotes, screenshots, links to the original GitHub issue, etc. that prove that you've been misrepresenting everything this whole time, which is the only goal I have here

And like I said before, this thread is about Pretendo. If people are going to spread misrepresentations/lies about the project or its team, I will continue to correct those things. Your eShop conversation is arguably the thing that's off topic, as it has nothing to do with the treads original topic at all. So, no, I will not stop. As I've said. Not sure if you noticed, but there's 11 pages of messages on this thread. And if you go back and look at them, you'll see this isn't the first time I've had to correct people's misrepresentations of things. All I'm doing is continuing what I've been doing since the beginning, like or not

This isn't "flooding the thread with an excuse". You were wrong and misquoted/misrepresented what happened, I corrected you, you keep trying to fight back on that for some reason. That's it

Like I said. If you want me to stop, then stop being wrong. Whether that means not misrepresenting things, not replying back to me, whatever. I don't care what you do. So long as you stop spreading misquotes/misrepresentations about things that happened

 

[chazdoesstuff]

I'm directly quoting you when I say you say things like "don't have the energy". Words have meanings, I don't care what you MEAN to say when what you ARE saying is incorrect and you refused to change what you said even after repeated corrections. I have read what you've said plenty of times, and once again, you were misrepresenting what I said. If you can't understand the fact that words have meanings and you saying 1 phrase doesn't mean the other, then you're beyond help. You can tell me to "reread" as much as you like, that doesn't change the fact that what you said I said was wrong, and had a vastly different meaning to what I ACTUALLY said

To quote you FROM THIS THREAD:



Which is what I corrected in my initial reply to you. "don't have the energy" and "wont put energy into it" are 2 different things, and if you can't understand the fact that I'm correcting that misquote then like I said, you're beyond help. It doesn't matter what you MEANT. I don't care about that, because I'm not debating what you MEANT. Like I said since the beginning, I am correcting your misrepresentation of what was said. Because again, words have meanings and when you tell people we said something that wasn't said, then that's an issue



No, it's definitely a "far cry". The way you speak is baffling to me. You said you "changed every previous iteration", making it seem like there was far more discussion than actually happened and that you proposed far more solutions than you actually did. You gave 2 suggestions. Both of which were actually given in the opening message of the GitHub issue. You actually did not change anything about the suggestions after going back and rereading the issue, the closest thing a "change" you made was to suggest the "automated SaveMii". Which, as I said, is hardly even a "method". Everything else was just vague "but it's possible" remarks, which isn't "changing every iteration"

You are once again completely misrepresenting what actually happened



Yup, and once again no one said anything about anything being "impossible". You're the only one making that assertion. Nowhere in anything I've said have I said something akin to what you want is "impossible". You're literally arguing against something I never said, which is why I have to keep correcting you



You literally did. Here's a quote from one of your other messages about this:


claiming that it's viable under the false guise that other projects have used them in the way we need to, saying they are "perfect for the job". Also the fact that you keep pushing for it to happen, and have claimed in the past that it's "simple" (as per your GitHub issue), is an argument for the viability of the idea/NNIDs. Also again, no one besides you has ever said anything about them being impossible/possible. Every single argument I've made has been about the viability of them as a secure authentication mechanism, which you consistently pushed back against. So either you had no idea what I was actually arguing, or you're arguing that they are viable. You can't have it both ways, you can't argue against my claims of viability while simultaneously claiming that you never said they were viable



It's not about "looking cool", not sure where you got that idea. As I've said numerous times, you came in here and spouted nonsense misrepresentations of things that happened, and I corrected those. Nothing more, and nothing less. You can think whatever you want about it, but that's what happened. I've left plenty of quotes, screenshots, links to the original GitHub issue, etc. that prove that you've been misrepresenting everything this whole time, which is the only goal I have here

And like I said before, this thread is about Pretendo. If people are going to spread misrepresentations/lies about the project or its team, I will continue to correct those things. Your eShop conversation is arguably the thing that's off topic, as it has nothing to do with the treads original topic at all. So, no, I will not stop. As I've said. Not sure if you noticed, but there's 11 pages of messages on this thread. And if you go back and look at them, you'll see this isn't the first time I've had to correct people's misrepresentations of things. All I'm doing is continuing what I've been doing since the beginning, like or not

This isn't "flooding the thread with an excuse". You were wrong and misquoted/misrepresented what happened, I corrected you, you keep trying to fight back on that for some reason. That's it

Like I said. If you want me to stop, then stop being wrong. Whether that means not misrepresenting things, not replying back to me, whatever. I don't care what you do. So long as you stop spreading misquotes/misrepresentations about things that happened

"Like I said. If you want me to stop, then stop being wrong." Jesus christ, I'm not being wrong, you've just admitted to not caring about what I mean, and you are being a right nob by just being rude like that and knowingly disregarding what I mean and then continue to flood the thread (when no-one asked, nor cares) with an argument, if you aren't going to contribute to the conversation in a civil manner, and just barge in with no care in the world and spam a load of rude crap on the basis of my dodgy wording with no care for what I've been trying to get across, then you should leave the thread. Stop.

 

[DexterYeen]

yall are writing fuciing essays with your replies

 

[chazdoesstuff]

yall are writing fuciing essays with your replies

Ik, the guy doesn't want to stop, I just wanted to talk about the wii u eshop....

 

[ShadowOne333]

yall are writing fuciing essays with your replies

I was about to suggest them some book publishers for them to release their encyclopedias, but hey seems like they're going strong with the discussion.

 

[DexterYeen]

I was about to suggest them some book publishers for them to release their encyclopedias, but hey seems like they're going strong with the discussion.

they should start a podcast where they fight like this, would make a lot of money

 

[RedDucks]

"Like I said. If you want me to stop, then stop being wrong." Jesus christ, I'm not being wrong, you've just admitted to not caring about what I mean, and you are being a right nob by just being rude like that and knowingly disregarding what I mean and then continue to flood the thread (when no-one asked, nor cares) with an argument, if you aren't going to contribute to the conversation in a civil manner, and just barge in with no care in the world and spam a load of rude crap on the basis of my dodgy wording with no care for what I've been trying to get across, then you should leave the thread. Stop.

I was civil at the beginning but your insistent need to keep fighting back on the corrections is why I'm now just being blunt about things. Call me a dick all you want, I don't care, but you were objectively wrong in every point that I corrected whether you like it or not. Yeah, I don't care about "what you meant", because this was never about that. It was about the actual words that you said, which news flash, like I said words have meanings. It's not anyone's fault but your own if you decided to say something completely different to what you meant, which I've already pointed out that you did do multiple times now. You can't just completely misquote and misrepresent things and then bitch about it "not being what you meant" when someone corrects you. You were wrong, I corrected it, just move on

 

[chazdoesstuff]

they should start a podcast where they fight like this, would make a lot of money

Would it now?

 

[DexterYeen]

Would it now?

I mean, I'm just guessing but it could!!

 

[chazdoesstuff]

I was civil at the beginning but your insistent need to keep fighting back on the corrections is why I'm now just being blunt about things. Call me a dick all you want, I don't care, but you were objectively wrong in every point that I corrected whether you like it or not. Yeah, I don't care about "what you meant", because this was never about that. It was about the actual words that you said, which news flash, like I said words have meanings. It's not anyone's fault but your own if you decided to say something completely different to what you meant, which I've already pointed out that you did do multiple times now. You can't just completely misquote and misrepresent things and then bitch about it "not being what you meant" when someone corrects you. You were wrong, I corrected it, just move on

BULLSHIT! I've had enough, if you are too dense that you just whinge on and take every single word as it is with no inference or thought, then you must be *hilarious* at parties! And don't say I'm the one that needs to move on when you are the one that chimed in, spammed essays about nothing and then knowingly continue to flood this thread then I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong here, leave this thread be, now.

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I mean, I'm just guessing but it could!!

Anyway, all in favour of just moving on from that guys ramblings and going back to whatever we were talking about before (wii u eshop was the last bit I spoke to someone about, didnt see anything else since matey decided to spam text walls), but yeah, down to go back to normal

 

[DexterYeen]

I mean, I'm just guessing but it could!!

people love drama

 

[chazdoesstuff]

people love drama

Yeah, let's go back to the Wii U eshop talk or something I've had enough of this guy's yapping

 

[RedDucks]

BULLSHIT! I've had enough, if you are too dense that you just whinge on and take every single word as it is with no inference or thought, then you must be *hilarious* at parties! And don't say I'm the one that needs to move on when you are the one that chimed in, spammed essays about nothing and then knowingly continue to flood this thread then I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong here, leave this thread be, now.

You can claim bullshit all you want but in the beginning on the GitHub issue I was civil. I was straight forward, but civil. I only became less civil as it went on because of your continued misrepresentation

Like I've said about a dozen times now, I only "chimed in" because you continued to misrepresent what happened. Which I corrected. That's it. It wasn't even an argument at that point, I was correcting things you said and that's all

And no, again, continue to be wrong and I'll correct it. As I have been, with people besides just you

 

[DinohScene]

let's drop the bickering now, k thnx.

 

[chazdoesstuff]

let's drop the bickering now, k thnx.

I've been trying to


Although I don't think it made sense to delete my comment and some other dudes and then noone else's in this, as matey was quite rude.

 

[NinStar]

Just lock the thread and problem solved.

 

[chazdoesstuff]

Just lock the thread and problem solved.

I suppose, shame he chimed in and ruined it, was having a nice yarn about the eshop before...