Yes it is internal I know as I installed my own Wiikey and broke it thus Nintendo will know if it was open. Use your brain for once instead of becoming type happy about stuff you have no knowledge in.
Its there trust me.... Its a lil itty bitty piece of sticker/paper that break when its opened If you don't trust me Open your brand new Wii and don't mod it but then try and send it to Nintendo for repair in which they will then tell you you voided your warranty as I said take my word or leave it your loss not mine...
There is no internal seal.
I've modded many wiis and never noticed it, I also sent my wii back for warrnaty after carefully removing the chip and cleaning up all the solder points. I had no issue getting warranty work done. (I had graphics artifiacts).
I would but unfortunately I have moved and had to leave alot of my things at my old place like my triwing and such so no way to open my Wii to show you all one so all I can leave you on my word just trying to give you all a warning as if you have half a brain you would know every type of product like this has some type of seal to know if you have opened it to void the warranty thus I leave it to you to think about and figure out I know its there I broke mine(1st gen Wii stood in line) so thus leave you with these words.... Open your Wii with all due caution and be certain about your decision before doing so(I have never regretted opening mine
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Sorry, you just broke the B.S. meter.
There is no internal sticker, atleast not on the latest model Wii. I took mine apart last week and there is no such BS sticker. And by take it apart, I mean like a jeweler takes a watch apart on a dry cloth with everything labeled.
So no dice.
There is no internal sticker, atleast not on the latest model Wii. I took mine apart last week and there is no such BS sticker. And by take it apart, I mean like a jeweler takes a watch apart on a dry cloth with everything labeled.
So no dice.
Awesome, I bet nintendo's 'tech' guys find it a fun challenge to open the wii to check whether or not the internal seal is broken, but without opening the wii because that would break the seal, unless it's already broken?!
Oh no, i've gone cross-eyed!
I would but unfortunately I have moved and had to leave alot of my things at my old place like my triwing and such so no way to open my Wii to show you all one so all I can leave you on my word just trying to give you all a warning as if you have half a brain you would know every type of product like this has some type of seal to know if you have opened it to void the warranty thus I leave it to you to think about and figure out I know its there I broke mine(1st gen Wii stood in line) so thus leave you with these words.... Open your Wii with all due caution and be certain about your decision before doing so(I have never regretted opening mine)
I don't have a Wii but my questions are
Q. How do you stick the "internal seal" when the case is closed, you cant seal something from the inside when the case is closed... how could that be possible, sounds a bit fishy to me.
Q Moding is not illegal in some countries so if Nintendo update a Wii that is moded in a country that it is allowed, and that console stops playing the official games it previously played.... I wonder what the legal standing is then hmm.
( sorry if any of these questions were asked previously but I didn't read all 33 pages )
Dont start calling people names, for gods sake. Do that in real life if you have the balls. Calling my post crap and posting crap yourself as a reply isnt really a good thing either. Of course Nintendo spent alot of money on developing the Wii, they also got alot of it back already. Of course the modchip business is gonna piss them off, and of course they lost some money, but not every modded Wii would have been an unmodded one with many store bought games were there no chips, thats just a wrong way of looking at it and you know it, so theres no way of telling how much money they lost. Fact is that even modders buy things such as additional controllers which is good money for Nintendo. Now how exactly are they gaining back a fortune in revenue by stopping every single chip drive working? How many consoles will go unsold because the Wii is not moddable anymore? How much addon stuff, VC games...? You really think all the modders are gonna buy retail games by the dozen or any at all?how do you know what nintendo is capable of producing? you are speculating on something you know nothing about and it's about time people started adding the words "in my opinion" to their posts because it is only that and has nothing based in fact.
ok smart ass you do realise that nintendo has spent an absolute fortune on this console and to have a bunch of people take out a monumental chunk in profits would piss them straight off (this much is fact). so do you really think that to purchase what is there a dozen drive chips it not out of the realms of possibilty, get a grip will you. they would be gaining back a fortune in revenue by stopping every single drive chip working.
you've gone against your end user license agreement when you've used the update and they have the right to disable the chips ALL of them if they so wished to.
but all of this is just guess work right now but people should just start remembering the facts instead of the guess work people are making currently.
Also since you claim Nintendo can disable the chips in the first place, tell me my friend, how come they haven't done that already? You say it should be easily possible for Nintendo and generate a fortune, yet they haven't done it...beeecause? They hate money? They mod their own Wiis as well? Seriously, look at your own arguments before calling people stupid... jeez
Besides I never talked about the legality of disabling the chips, I was talking about bricking the consoles. Stop your endless rant about legal issues, stop pretending you've passed the BAR, makes you look like a poser.
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I don't think they can "disable" a drive chip, but future games may require different authentication and therefore the drive chips will fail to work on the newer discs. If Nintendo did want to play dirty, they certainly could disable the chip -- the chips can be written to from a DVD, so why can't Nintendo write something to them? Most of the code at this point is released online and I'm sure Nintendo has copies.
Nintendo will not brick your console purposely. Forget the legal matters, who cares; it's a matter of preciseness. If they brick someones Wii that isn't modded, and that person can prove beyond doubt that they never had a modchip, they're screwed. They just won't do it.
Besides, what's the point? If they brick your hardware, you probably aren't going to go buy a new Wii; whereas leaving your hardware intact, you have a chance of still buying stuff (Wiimotes, games, points, whatever). Worst they'd ever do is disable the chip itself in an attempt to force you to buy games and make them more money. Bricking consoles purposely is dumbest possible move in every possible way and it will not ever be purposely done. Updates can accidentally mess something up, regardless of mods, and that is always true. But never on purpose.
They will however begin banning -- and don't say they can't. People said Micro$oft couldn't either, but all those people got banned a few weeks back.
I also like what is stated in the EDIT above. It's a good point.
We all need to stop freaking out, stop threatening to sue Nintendo (which, regardless of the laws, none of us would likely do), and just go with it. This part of the joy of hacking -- if this update disables use of a certain mod, well then, let's find a new way to do things.
I'm just hoping they don't actually ban/block any consoles from Wifi/Wii Shopping. The DS still works with ROMs, Nintendo is pulling quadruple their predicted profits, whereas Sony is still losing money per PS3. I think they like the consumers, and for the small percentage that have modded their equipment, while they don't like it, I don't think they're focusing their energies in disabling it. Why when they're making a ton of money with what they're doing now?
I would but unfortunately I have moved and had to leave alot of my things at my old place like my triwing and such so no way to open my Wii to show you all one so all I can leave you on my word just trying to give you all a warning as if you have half a brain you would know every type of product like this has some type of seal to know if you have opened it to void the warranty thus I leave it to you to think about and figure out I know its there I broke mine(1st gen Wii stood in line) so thus leave you with these words.... Open your Wii with all due caution and be certain about your decision before doing so(I have never regretted opening mine)
I don't have a Wii but my questions are
Q. How do you stick the "internal seal" when the case is closed, you cant seal something from the inside when the case is closed... how could that be possible, sounds a bit fishy to me.
I suppose they could make one of the side panels clip onto the wii for good. Once its on, it cannot be removed without breaking the clips. Before they put the side panel on, they stick an internal sticker on the wii first. So it would be just a case of nintendo breaking open the side panel and then checking the internal sticker to see that its not broken.
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To repair a Wii, I think you need to open it and break the Seal, so how Nintendo gonna find if you broke it before? I mean, they can't a picture from inside before opening it XD
An internal seal sounds stupid.
An internal seal sounds stupid.
internal seal is stupid because when they open it, it will break anyways. Just stupid in my eyes. Plus, when I saw wii getting modded there was seal broken. The only way Nintendo can detect if a modchip WAS in place before, is if the soldering job was badly done. Good modders can make it so that it looks untouched.
in plain english when you have a wii and you connect it to the wii network service (in this case it's connecting your console to wii connect 24) having a mod chip you are signing away your rights by having anything that has not been provided or licensed by nintendo in your wii or connected to it (even if it's a power lead).Dont start calling people names, for gods sake. Do that in real life if you have the balls. Calling my post crap and posting crap yourself as a reply isnt really a good thing either. Of course Nintendo spent alot of money on developing the Wii, they also got alot of it back already. Of course the modchip business is gonna piss them off, and of course they lost some money, but not every modded Wii would have been an unmodded one with many store bought games were there no chips, thats just a wrong way of looking at it and you know it, so theres no way of telling how much money they lost. Fact is that even modders buy things such as additional controllers which is good money for Nintendo. Now how exactly are they gaining back a fortune in revenue by stopping every single chip drive working? How many consoles will go unsold because the Wii is not moddable anymore? How much addon stuff, VC games...? You really think all the modders are gonna buy retail games by the dozen or any at all?
Also since you claim Nintendo can disable the chips in the first place, tell me my friend, how come they haven't done that already? You say it should be easily possible for Nintendo and generate a fortune, yet they haven't done it...beeecause? They hate money? They mod their own Wiis as well? Seriously, look at your own arguments before calling people stupid... jeezÂ
Besides I never talked about the legality of disabling the chips, I was talking about bricking the consoles. Stop your endless rant about legal issues, stop pretending you've passed the BAR, makes you look like a poser.
oh right so i need to have a set of balls now to be able to tell someone they are dumb for speculating , do i?
i didn't post crap i merely posted the facts of the matter and pointed out the situation as it stands but jees if you can't read posts as you see them without going off the deep end then too bad for you.
how can you say what i know if you think something is the wrong way fine but you can't say what everyone thinks.
you tell me where in this post below did i say or claim nintendo can disable mod chips
Chapter: Unauthorized Devices or Accessories.QUOTE said:how do you know what nintendo is capable of producing? you are speculating on something you
know nothing about and it's about time people started adding the words "in my opinion" to their
posts because it is only that and has nothing based in fact.
ok smart ass you do realise that nintendo has spent an absolute fortune on this console and to
have a bunch of people take out a monumental chunk in profits would piss them straight off
(this much is fact). so do you really think that to purchase what is there a dozen drive chips
it not out of the realms of possibilty, get a grip will you. they would be gaining back a
fortune in revenue by stopping every single drive chip working.
you've gone against your end user license agreement when you've used the update and they have
the right to disable the chips ALL of them if they so wished to.
but all of this is just guess work right now but people should just start remembering the facts
instead of the guess work people are making currently.
no i never claimed that they can do it, i said IF they wanted to they could because when you go online you have already agreed to nintendos end user license agreement posted in part below
QUOTE
Your Wii Console and the Wii Network Service are not designed for use with any unauthorized device or any non-licensed accessory. You may not use any such device in connection with your Wii Console or Wii Network Service. Such use may be illegal, voids any warranty and is a breach by you of this agreement. Further, such use may lead to injury to yourself or others and may cause performance issues and/or damage to your Wii Console and the Wii Network Service. Nintendo (as well as any Nintendo licensee or distributor) is not responsible for any damage or loss caused by the use of such device or non-licensed accessory
now should anything happen to the wii whether it be because they eventually manage to get the technology to stop the drive mods working or whatever they have done nothing wrong by doing this you've already wavered any rights you had to a working console in other words if it bricks tough shit you were warned.
how do you know whether or not i've passed the bar?
all i've done is go to nintendos site and informed the people in this thread what rights they have should anything further happen to their wii's because it looks like no one else did this before they modded the consoles. now if anyone had read the agreement they didn't post here to tell you that you have no rights to have a console running with software you may have downloaded or with whichever chip you have put in there.
correct me if i'm wrong but before yesterday you couldn't connect a keyboard to a wii but as of the new update you can. some people have reported that they can't use the setup disks for the wiikey since they've updated(unless they go about it a different way), these things in my opinion are proof of what nintendo can and can't do via an update.
now too bad if you don't like the fact i've done a few minutes work to benefit other people whether it be because they haven't updated their modded console yet or whether it be someone who is undecided whether they should or should not put a mod chip in.
also too bad if you don't like the fact i'm trying to stop people speculating because it's unfair to say nintendo can't do this or that and won't brick consoles because no one can predict what will or won't be done.
now for christ sake stick me on ignore if you don't want to read facts again.
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