Why vista should have been an expansionpack

Hiratai

I'm like *tick* *tick*
Banned
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Messages
1,029
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
22
Country
United States

Hiratai

I'm like *tick* *tick*
Banned
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Messages
1,029
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
22
Country
United States

ZeWarrior

TheWarrior
Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
2,810
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
298
Country
Brazil
Your past 3 have. If I hadn't posted and he were top post again, you would've continued to carry an idiotic argument here.

And yet here you are, continuing that very conversation.
Your point is...? If you didn't act like a smartass all the time, you wouldn't have to worry about why you always seem to get on someones bad side EVERYTIME you log onto a forum.

FINALLY someone I can agree with. Urza thinks he has to argue against everything. He thinks he knows everything.
sleep.gif
 

Urza

hi
Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2007
Messages
6,493
Trophies
0
XP
783
Country
United States
QUOTE said:
FINALLY someone I can agree with. Urza thinks he has to argue against everything. He thinks he knows everything.
sleep.gif
You have yet to disprove anything I've said, and insist on attacking my personality instead.
 

ZeWarrior

TheWarrior
Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
2,810
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
298
Country
Brazil
QUOTE said:
FINALLY someone I can agree with. Urza thinks he has to argue against everything. He thinks he knows everything.
sleep.gif

You have yet to disprove anything I've said, and insist on attacking my personality instead.

Get to the point. What do you think I'm gonna do? Cry? Tell you '' Sorry Urza I'm inferior to you in everyway, sorry for questioning anything
cry.gif
'' Really. Grow up.
 

Urza

hi
Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2007
Messages
6,493
Trophies
0
XP
783
Country
United States
Get to the point. What do you think I'm gonna do? Cry? Tell you '' Sorry Urza I'm inferior to you in everyway, sorry for questioning anythingÂ
cry.gif
 '' Really. Grow up.
Get to the point. What do you think I'm gonna do? Rethink the meaning of my life? Tell you " Sorry Zewaroiraskd, I should be a nicer person and not intervene when someone is making up things, sorry for hurting your feelings
cry.gif
" Really. Grow up.
 

ZeWarrior

TheWarrior
Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
2,810
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
298
Country
Brazil
Get to the point. What do you think I'm gonna do? Cry? Tell you '' Sorry Urza I'm inferior to you in everyway, sorry for questioning anythingÂ
cry.gif
 '' Really. Grow up.

Get to the point. What do you think I'm gonna do? Rethink the meaning of my life? Tell you " Sorry Zewaroiraskd, I should be a nicer person and not intervene when someone is making up things, sorry for hurting your feelings
cry.gif
" Really. Grow up.

When was I making up things? Link me to a post right now. Oh wait you can't.
 

ZeWarrior

TheWarrior
Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
2,810
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
298
Country
Brazil
When was I making up things? Link me to a post right now. Oh wait you can't.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=647...ndpost&p=845998

You made three things up in that sentence alone.

Name them. You really don't need VM if your PC has enough Physical RAM. My Laptop that has 2GB of RAM has NEVER needed to use Virtual memory from the HDD. SSDs ARE faster than 5400 RPM Drives for Writting AND Reading. And it IS a fair comparison. Show me an SSD made for a Desktop.
 

Salamantis

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2007
Messages
1,942
Trophies
0
XP
397
Country
Canada
Microsoft shouldn't have ever made Vista. It sucks big time. Well, at least maybe SP1 will make it a little better... heck, we'll probably be waiting for it like the Wiikey update!
 

notnarb

Not narbing it up
Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
1,083
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
280
Country
Stop it, get back on the real topic, or get warns, or worse.


Sorry. Mthr. Back on topic Vista should not have been an expansion pack. But IMHO XP should've had a patch of some sort so it can have DX10. Microsoft made a big move making DX10 only for Vista and I think that will cost them in the long run.
but Microsoft needs a good reason for people to upgrade. They are, after all, a software company
 

Lukeage

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2004
Messages
178
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
271
Country
Big Post!

Hooray, someone who actually has some decent knowledge on computing!

Just a few points I'd like to add.

Memory: Vista (and XP too from memory, maybe not as in depth though) allows you to display active/inactive memory plus a bunch of other stuff through the task manager. It isn't viewable by default, but you can add the columns to the display for all sorts of stuff related to processes.

Security & backwards compatibility: I'm lumping these together because in windows these are actually closely related (from a Windows point of view). Microsoft is between a rock and a hard place when it comes to these. While I agree there are better solutions than what they are doing, they are in the awkward position of offering full backwards compatibility so their big customers remain happy, while trying to introduce a better security model, often at the expense of backwards compatibility. While I am sure there are plenty of people that would like to give away a large amount of BC for security, many of these customers aren't buying 1000s of windows licenses.

Kernel: Just a side note, the next installment of windows is supposed to be a complete overhaul to have a genuine microkernel (once again).

Managed Code: I'm unsure what you mean by MS will be unable to check code is safe to run if it is managed. In a correctly managed environment, buffer overflows etc... are not an issue because the (should) VM handles these problems.

64bit: Just add, the minimal slowdown which occurs when running 32bit apps in a 64bit environment is usually due to the processor switching from long mode to protected mode (and vice versa). And to nitpick, the directories you have (while thats how they should be) are wrong. System32 is where the 64 bit dlls go, and SysWow64 are where the 32bit dlls are stored. Retarded much? This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

DX10: I'm surprised you'd still be having issues these days. A lot of the issues before were because ATI and nVidia's drivers were absolutely terrible under Vista. While there still may be the odd slowdown due to dx9 called being wrapped, there shouldn't be any major issues. While I still have XP installed on my system, I pretty much do all my gaming under Vista now (I have a 7900GS) and get more than acceptable framerates.
 

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    So my opinion is that they could age a bit better in the future, and maybe AMD will continue improving them via drivers like they tend to do. No guarantee there but they have done it in the past. Just a feeling I have.
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    cyberpunk at 4k without DLSS/fidelityfx *might* exceed 12gb
    +1
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    but that game barely runs at native 4k
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    I think it was some newer games and probably poorly optimized PS4 or PS5 ports
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    they definitely will age better but i feel dlss might outweigh that since it looks about as good as native resolution and much less demanding
    +1
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    When I played Cyberpunk on my old 2080 Ti it sucked lol
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    AMD could introduce something comparable to DLSS but nvidia's got a lot more experience with that
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    least amd 7xxx has tensor cores which the previous generations didn't so there is the potential for AI upscaling
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    They have FSR or whatever it's called and yeah it's still not great
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    so AMD seem to finally be starting to take AI seriously
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Oh yeah those new 8000 CPUs have AI cores built in that's interesting
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Maybe they plan on offloading to the CPU?
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Would be kinda cool to have the CPU and GPU working in random more
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    Tandem even
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    i think i heard of that, it's a good idea, shouldn't need a dedicated GPU just to run a LLM or video upscaling
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    even the nvidia shield tv has AI video upscaling
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    LLMs can be run on cpu anyway but it's quite slow
  • BakerMan @ BakerMan:
    Have you ever been beaten by a wet spaghetti noodle by your girlfriend because she has a twin sister, and you got confused and fucked her dad?
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    I had a girlfriend who had a twin sister and they would mess with me constantly.... Until one chipped a tooth then finally I could tell them apart.... Lol
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    They would have the same hair style the same clothes everything... Really messed with my head lol
  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    @The Real Jdbye, I could see AMD trying to pull off the CPU GPU tandem thing, would be a way to maybe close the gap a bit with Nvidia. Plus it would kinda put Nvidia at a future disadvantage since Nvidia can't make X86/64 CPUs? Intel and AMD licensing issues... I wonder how much that has held back innovation.
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    i don't think nvidia wants to get in the x64 cpu market anyways
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    you've seen how much intel is struggling getting into the gpu market
  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    and nvidia is already doing ARM
    The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye: and nvidia is already doing ARM