Why vista should have been an expansionpack

[ZeWarrior]

Disclaimer: I am an avid Linux/BSD user. My laptop is a Macintosh.

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Yet, despite all this, I get pissed off when people complain that Vista's memory usage is high. Vista caches many things in your RAM so it doesn't have to constantly pull it off your hard drive, which is much, much slower.

Solid State Drives

Which aren't going to be cost effective for a very long time.
Doesn't matter he said the hard drive is slower, he didn't ask how expensive or how cheap it is
SSD are slower than Hard Drives(at the moment)

Also, it takes milliseconds to blank the memory so if you to start running a program that requires more memory like Photoshop or a game....the memory will be released and made available.

I have to agree with that

What the is the point of having 2 Gigabytes of RAM if your computer rarely uses it?

To show your friends your PC kicks ass

2gb hasn't been "kick-ass" for at least a year.
So? It's more than enough for todays games. If you say 4GB is kick ass no it's not for an OS to see that much it has to be 64bit and 64bit isn't all that great cause it kinds of emulates 32bit programs so in something like 3dmark you get a lower score than you should
What did that rebuttal have anything to do with your first statement?


/rant OVER.


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Don't post in yellow it's terrible to see. And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs

And Urza the point is he said HDDs are slower than RAM which is true but SSDs aren't. You had no reason to reply to that.

 

[Nero]

So? It's more than enough for todays games. If you say 4GB is kick ass no it's not for an OS to see that much it has to be 64bit and 64bit isn't all that great cause it kinds of emulates 32bit programs so in something like 3dmark you get a lower score than you should
1. I never said 4gb was "kick-ass", I was saying that 2gb is pretty much standard now.

2. The performance hit from 32-bit emulation is very small.

Doesn't matter he said the hard drive is slower, he didn't ask how expensive or how cheap it is
Then what was the point of your comment? Just showing us you know what solid state drives are?

I dont agree with this artical at all. I havnt had any problems with vista yet and there is no way it could be an expansion since the whole entire OS was recodded mostly.

Please stop making comments about PCs or Macs or any type of computer or OS. You think you know a lot but really you don't. Your post makes no sense what so ever.

I second this.

I third this. (I'm this first one to say that though...

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2GB is fine for my Home PC. I haven't ran into problems in any programs yet. Everything runs at full speed, when I have Firefox, Bitcomet, AIM, MSN, and about 20 other programs on.. I can still play a FPS at 1280 x 1024 Resolution without lag.

It may be my Processor though..

~Nero

 

[Urza]

4gb is somewhat high-end.

If you've got 5+, thats what I would start considering "kick-ass".

It's noticeable in some games.
Link?

QUOTEAnd Urza the point is he said HDDs are slower than RAM which is true but SSDs aren't. You had no reason to reply to that.

But SSD aren't going to be standard, or even available in large capacities, for a very long time.

I'm saying your comment was irrelevant because it has no effect on the issue you responded to.

 

[ZeWarrior]

Why would I need a link? It's from personal experience.

 

[Nero]

Why would I need a link? It's from personal experience.

I'm pretty sure RAM has nothing to do with the gaming experience that you have... Just as long as you have enough to keep it running. Then again, I'm not the best at computers...

~Nero

 

[ZeWarrior]

Why would I need a link? It's from personal experience.


I'm pretty sure RAM has nothing to do with the gaming experience that you have... Just as long as you have enough to keep it running. Then again, I'm not the best at computers...

~Nero

It's not about RAM... It's about 64Bit emulation of 32bit programs which is noticeable in some games and programs. Games ( crysis demo ) and programs ( photoshop ) for example.

 

[Urza]

And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs

Not for random writes they aren't.

 

[Nero]

Why would I need a link? It's from personal experience.


I'm pretty sure RAM has nothing to do with the gaming experience that you have... Just as long as you have enough to keep it running. Then again, I'm not the best at computers...

EDIT: I'm an idiot... Don't mind me, I didn't read the post a couple posts above me.

~Nero

EDIT: This is like.. My 3rd time pressing the Quote Post button on accident instead of the Edit...

*Slaps self*

 

[ZeWarrior]

And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs
Not for random writes they aren't.

For reading I meant. And thats what It's all about.

 

[Linkiboy]

Don't post in yellow it's terrible to see. And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs

lol

Maybe with a single 7200RPM drive, but since price doesn't matter, why not have two of these 15k RPM drives in RAID?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148284

That will pretty much kill any speed advantage the SSD has.

 

[amptor]

ya I agree with urza.. windows vista is far better than XP anyway, I don't care if anyone wants to argue against that lol... I get no spyware even if I try to infect my pc and also it runs fine. I pirated the ultimate onto my laptop by mearely installing the manufacturer cd and it's all authenticated, no need to crack the o/s any more these days... pretty nice stuff.

 

[cubin']

4GB wouldn't be noticeable in any games compared with 2GB. Hardly any games use more than a gig of ram....not including OS files.

Vista couldn't be an expansion. The whole OS got recoded and many thing fixed up from XP. I have Vista on my parents computer and it's been working great for them. From what I've used it seems to work fine. ZeWarrior just hates anything microsoft

even it it's awesome.

Everyone hated XP when it came out and the same thing is happening with Vista. Lots of people say it sucks but lots of people don't know what they're talking about.

Just remember that lots of the things fixed in Vista are under the hood. Most people don't notice the difference but it's much more stable. You can turn off the annoying prompts whenever you change settings and make the desktop like xp if you like.

 

[Nero]

ya I agree with urza.. windows vista is far better than XP anyway, I don't care if anyone wants to argue against that lol... I get no spyware even if I try to infect my pc and also it runs fine. I pirated the ultimate onto my laptop by mearely installing the manufacturer cd and it's all authenticated, no need to crack the o/s any more these days... pretty nice stuff.

My Home PC is almost 2 years old... I scan it with Norton, Panda, and a couple other scanners.

There wasn't anything to be found... I guess I'm just safe with the porn sites I visit.

(What? Ain't that how you guys get viruses these days?)

~Nero

EDIT: Almost 2 years old... Erased "and a half"

 

[ZeWarrior]

Don't post in yellow it's terrible to see. And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs
lol

Maybe with a single 7200RPM drive, but since price doesn't matter, why not have two of these 15k RPM drives in RAID?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148284

That will pretty much kill any speed advantage the SSD has.

Those are 700$ Each. A 128GB SSD is about 1000$ Hmm... you said 2 so... 700 x 2 = 1400$ correct? What should I do... spend 400$ more for a LITTLE VERY LITTLE performance boost over SSD or save 400$ and get just a little less performance... Hmm I think I'll chose the latter.

 

[ZeWarrior]

4GB wouldn't be noticeable in any games compared with 2GB. Hardly any games use more than a gig of ram....not including OS files.

Vista couldn't be an expansion. The whole OS got recoded and many thing fixed up from XP. I have Vista on my parents computer and it's been working great for them. From what I've used it seems to work fine. ZeWarrior just hates anything microsoft

even it it's awesome.

Everyone hated XP when it came out and the same thing is happening with Vista. Lots of people say it sucks but lots of people don't know what they're talking about.

I'm sorry but where was I saying Vista or any microsoft product sucks. I didn't make one comment about vista in this whole thread.

 

[Nero]

4GB wouldn't be noticeable in any games compared with 2GB. Hardly any games use more than a gig of ram....not including OS files.

Vista couldn't be an expansion. The whole OS got recoded and many thing fixed up from XP. I have Vista on my parents computer and it's been working great for them. From what I've used it seems to work fine. ZeWarrior just hates anything microsoft

even it it's awesome.

Everyone hated XP when it came out and the same thing is happening with Vista. Lots of people say it sucks but lots of people don't know what they're talking about.


I'm sorry but where was I saying Vista or any microsoft product sucks. I didn't make one comment about vista in this whole thread.

This man speaks the truth.

~Nero

 

[Linkiboy]

Don't post in yellow it's terrible to see. And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs
lol

Maybe with a single 7200RPM drive, but since price doesn't matter, why not have two of these 15k RPM drives in RAID?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148284

That will pretty much kill any speed advantage the SSD has.

Those are 700$ Each. A 128GB SSD is about 1000$ Hmm... you said 2 so... 700 x 2 = 1400$ correct? What should I do... spend 400$ more for a LITTLE VERY LITTLE performance boost over SSD or save 400$ and get just a little less performance... Hmm I think I'll chose the latter.

Wow, great job COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT.

that was a 600GB vs 128GB comparison. Heres something more fair to compare it to

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822116009

 

[cubin']

My bad. I just assumed I guess. You do hate every single microsoft product though, right?

 

[ZeWarrior]

Don't post in yellow it's terrible to see. And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs
lol

Maybe with a single 7200RPM drive, but since price doesn't matter, why not have two of these 15k RPM drives in RAID?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148284

That will pretty much kill any speed advantage the SSD has.



Those are 700$ Each. A 128GB SSD is about 1000$ Hmm... you said 2 so... 700 x 2 = 1400$ correct? What should I do... spend 400$ more for a LITTLE VERY LITTLE performance boost over SSD or save 400$ and get just a little less performance... Hmm I think I'll chose the latter.

Wow, great job COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT.

that was a 600GB vs 128GB comparison. Heres something more fair to compare it to

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822116009

I saw the point and they don't have 15k rpm drives for laptops and in case you didn't know there aren't any SSDs for Desktops either so both of us forgot this. The size comparison wasn't fair since the beginning since laptops don't even have 600GB drives

 

[Urza]

And that's bull shit SSD are much, much faster then HDDs
Not for random writes they aren't.

For reading I meant. And thats what It's all about.

What are you talking about? Virtual memory uses ALOT of random writes.