Hacking Why is there no option to boot into Sysnand Gateway Mode when Emunand is present?

[dicamarques]

Hold Up while you enter GW Mode? I think thats a feature

 

[Chrushev]

Dude you could backup the saves with savedatafiler, and then re-download them with emunand, and restoring the saves if the emunand doesn't have the games in sysnand, your logic is very strange on why you want to use sysnand like that, also you could make a new emunand that is a reflection of the sysnand, and never use sysnand again

Because when I play retail cartridges, having to boot into emunand for it every time is a pain in the ass.

 

[KidIce]

Cant format sysnand, I have a ton of eshop games there with saves etc... if I format I cant re-download them from eshop. Plus why would I format it.. the whole point is to keep it! If the yare linked then CIAS are wrapped every time and you can accidentaly wipe your data by going to data management. keeping them linked is the most terrible idea! how is it a backward approach? Things that work now will always work. So if something comes around that needs emunand, then you boot into emunand and play it. The whole point is that you have option of both! It doesnt take anything away by having that option. We'll have games requiring 9.4 in 6 months or so, those can be played in Emunand, but that doesnt mean that current 300+ games cant be played in sysnand forever.

Once upon a time GW offered this, but ditched it... The reason is that when new functions are added to the FW and games utilize them you can not those games w/o emuNAND and FW w/ those functions. While it appears you understand this, think of it from their perspective... Most people will not understand, and they will get hoards of emails for support because 10.3 FW games don't work. Also think about the fact that there are many 4.X users that wouldn't be able to play most of the 3DS's library at this point w/o emuNAND as far too many functions have been added since then.

I would have ditched it too, it's a customer support nightmare to do anything else.

 

[kamesenin888]

get a sky3ds and update the console if using emunand bothers ya

 

[Chrushev]

Once upon a time GW offered this, but ditched it... The reason is that when new functions are added to the FW and games utilize them you can not those games w/o emuNAND and FW w/ those functions. While it appears you understand this, think of it from their perspective... Most people will not understand, and they will get hoards of emails for support because 10.3 FW games don't work. Also think about the fact that there are many 4.X users that wouldn't be able to play most of the 3DS's library at this point w/o emuNAND as far too many functions have been added since then.

I would have ditched it too, it's a customer support nightmare to do anything else.

That makes no sense.. just have it behave exactly how it does not, except if you hold a key combo it boots into sysnand gw mode... there is no way someone who "doesnt understand" would ever get into sysnand gw mode by accident.

 

[Chrushev]

get a sky3ds and update the console if using emunand bothers ya

You seem to be retarded? You do know that you dont have to get sky3ds for that right? you can just remove emunand and you can boot into sysnand gw mode... at which point you can use Gateway in Sysnand without emunand.... but thats not what I am trying to accomplish here.

 

[KidIce]

That makes no sense.. just have it behave exactly how it does not, except if you hold a key combo it boots into sysnand gw mode... there is no way someone who "doesnt understand" would ever get into sysnand gw mode by accident.

You grossly underestimate the abilities of morons to break things that most people would find airtight. :-)

 

[kamesenin888]

You seem to be retarded? You do know that you dont have to get sky3ds for that right? you can just remove emunand and you can boot into sysnand gw mode... at which point you can use Gateway in Sysnand without emunand.... but thats not what I am trying to accomplish here.

the retarded person is the one that bothers to do a process of 3 buttons to play games, what a hasttle, well why not ask gateway if they can stop working on nn3ds support and go back and add a specific function for only 1 person in the world

 

[kamesenin888]

You grossly underestimate the abilities of morons to break things that most people would find airtight. :-)

very true

 

[potato3334]

because I want my game history saved and tracked in Sysnand, same place where its been tracked for the last 3+ years. Thats where all my streetpassing is etc... raelly if I didnt have to use emunand for CIAS i would use sysnand for everything.

maybe you should use your emunand as your go-to use instead of your sysnand from now on, that way everything from now on will be on your emunand.

 

[thorasgar]

Folks, I know many of you are young and still studying history, but I hope you realize what is going on here. The spelling of his username is a play on a former Soviet Premier who was well known for his belligerence. He is playing the part quite well.

He wants a custom designed flashcart firmware and doesn't want to pay for custom programming.

We are being Trolled.

 

[urherenow]

Hold Up while you enter GW Mode? I think thats a feature

Yes, but that only disables the update patch. (roms will ask you to update in this mode if they contain a higher FW than you're on).

 

[Maximilious]

Stupid is as stupid does sir.

EmuNAND is a layer of protection for your sysNAND. Why you (and recently others) don't use it is beyond anything my mind can fathom. Waiting for your next thread titled "Screwed up sysNAND in some way or fashion - How to fix?"

To be clear - yes a lot of this is "inconvenience", but truth be told, I'd rather this inconvenience than a fucked up system that I have to hardmod or replace to fix. Jumping between sysNAND and emuNAND is bound to cause confusion at some point. Make things easier and just use emuNAND. /endrant

 

[Sliter]

you want to us eto play retail carts is that? you can "boot classic mode" for that

 

[Nollog]

I read that if you do the konami code in the gateway menu it boots into system nand.

I've never tried it myself though.

 

[Localhorst86]

Step 1: Make a backup of ypur current sysnand

Step 2: Format emunand. Emunand and sysnand will be identical to current sysnand an linked.

Step 3: Take out SD card, format sysnand.

Step 4: Use emunand always and act as if it was your sysnand.

Step 5: ???

Step 6: Profit

 

[Chrushev]

Step 1: Make a backup of ypur current sysnand

Step 2: Format emunand. Emunand and sysnand will be identical to current sysnand an linked.

Step 3: Take out SD card, format sysnand.

Step 4: Use emunand always and act as if it was your sysnand.

Step 5: ???

Step 6: Profit

2 problems with that setup.

1) If you are away from an internet connection (traveling etc), and your 3DS dies or crashes or whatever, you cant get back in to emunand to play games.
2) If makes it difficult to play legitimate carts. You have to switch to classic mode and then back to gateway mode etc to go between games..

 

[gamesquest1]

2 problems with that setup.

1) If you are away from an internet connection (traveling etc), and your 3DS dies or crashes or whatever, you cant get back in to emunand to play games.
2) If makes it difficult to play legitimate carts. You have to switch to classic mode and then back to gateway mode etc to go between games..

ok only option for you
1) update sysnand to 9.5 and sell your gateway card
2) buy a sky3ds
3) never have to deal with the dreadfulness of using emunand or gateway again as its obviously not for you

 

[Chrushev]

ok only option for you
1) update sysnand to 9.5 and sell your gateway card
2) buy a sky3ds
3) never have to deal with the dreadfulness of using emunand or gateway again as its obviously not for you

Well, that wins most useless advice reward hands down!

 

[gamesquest1]

Well, that wins most useless advice reward hands down!

well your not going to be happy either way, so.....there you have it a solution with no emunand so nothing to cry about