Homebrew Why is it so complicated to run NDS-Roms on 3DS?

[Memfis]

If I insert a NDS Game into my 3DS it runs without any modifications. Why is it so complicated to run a normal NDS-Rom and why isn't there a converter like fpr SNES Games to make a installable cia-file?

 

[Joom]

Because NDS games are hard coded to read and write to Slot-1. We already have nds-bootstrap if you want to play them from your SD. If you want icons on the home menu you can create forwarders. Just know that these are installed to TWLNAND, so space is limited.

 

[Memfis]

Is there an injector like for SNES Games? I like injectors. They are so fast and user-friendly

 

[The Catboy]

Is there an injector like for SNES Games? I like injectors. They are so fast and user-friendly

There have been no DS games released as VC for the 3DS. There was a source port of a DS to DSi from Nintsndo, but that’s about it.
You really only have two options for DS games, unless Nintendo makes a VC DS game. Which is doubtful this late in the game

 

[Memfis]

Other easy way to make a cia-file?

 

[Lumince]

Other easy way to make a cia-file?

We cant make dsiware cias. There is no way create dsiware. The only way you'll be able to play ds games is if you get a flashcard. The forwarders are....not the greatest from sd card...

 

[VinsCool]

Other easy way to make a cia-file?

Rewording the same question over and over won't magically bring the solution.
Flashcard for best compatibility, bootstrap for poor compatibility but working from SD card.

 

[RocketRobz]

Other easy way to make a cia-file?

Have you tried this?
It's as easy as it gets.

 

[Memfis]

Rewording the same question over and over won't magically bring the solution.
Flashcard for best compatibility, bootstrap for poor compatibility but working from SD card.

OK, question was poorly formulated. I mean: Why isn't it possible to dump a NDS-game like a 3DS game?

 

[Yumirou]

OK, question was poorly formulated. I mean: Why isn't it possible to dump a NDS-game like a 3DS game?

Because NDS games are hard coded to read and write to Slot-1. We already have nds-bootstrap if you want to play them from your SD. If you want icons on the home menu you can create forwarders. Just know that these are installed to TWLNAND, so space is limited.

Your question has been answered in one of the first replies.

Have you tried this?
It's as easy as it gets.

As a member has already said. This method is the easiest one available. I recommend TWloader.

 

[dragonkid6]

I just forward games from my flashcard to the home menu.

 

[Ryccardo]

Why isn't it possible to dump a NDS-game like a 3DS game?

It's certainly possible to dump DS games "as easily as" 3DS games (the other definition of "like" = "in the same way" is wrong since the way the cards communicate with the system are different)

It's also possible to easily convert game dumps (nds/srl, cci/3ds/3dz) to an installable format, and install them...

However as said above multiple times, retail DS games are not designed to run from any other storage and so will still try to load from slot-1, so virtualizing the games is necessary - and nds-bootstrap does exactly that, with mixed results


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As for the original question, I don't find anything complicated in using a $20 r4ids.cn (or a $6 original R4) to play DS games with excellent compatibility and full performance. With saves that automatically follow me on any console!

 

[Giodude]

I just forward games from my flashcard to the home menu.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/nds-forwarder-cias-for-your-home-menu.426174/ this should work nicely for that.

 

[dragonkid6]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/nds-forwarder-cias-for-your-home-menu.426174/ this should work nicely for that.

Yeah, that's what I use.

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

at least you can run some at full speed like mario kart ds.