Why is every major dev of the Switch scene pissed about Xecuter's work?

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Stercate79, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Sasori

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    What I'm confused about is why everyone is just saying this is for piracy...The RGH chips TX released for the 360 wherent for piracy at all, they were simply to allow us to run unsigned code, and whatever people than did what that code was their business but there were a plethora of great things developed with piracy aside with that glitch chip.

    You're all thinking way too small just because you want to whine and be ungrateful.

    Think of what you can do with this now that we can run unsigned code on any firmware.

    Zelda BOTW mods like we have on CEMU

    Binding of Isaac mods.

    Custom Themes

    Custom MK8 tracks....

    The possibilities are endless all we need are developers which is also what TX is opening up the switch too. Its a lot easier for a scene to pick up developers and growth if its easily accessible by a lot of people. This is one of the reasons the PSP scene floursed so greatly and also why the xbox 360 scene picked up so much steam so quickly.

    Open your minds and get out of the mindset that everyone is out to get everyone and that the world is evil. This isn't TX's first rodeo and we should be thankful they even have something this big that they are sharing.

    Yes they will charge for it. But if you countless hours working on something, wouldn't you like to be compensated in some way? Life isn't free. Most of us have to work for a living.

    Now this isn't to say that this isn't what Plutoo and his team had in mind either. But can you honestly say a console that has to be on 3.00 or below has as much of a audience as the newest firmwares? Thats like being mad at developers for focusing game development on Windows which has ~90 of the market share opposed to focusing on developing games for linux..it wouldn't make sense to focus on the smaller margin and than be mad when the larger margin is getting more attention.
     
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  2. Pandaxclone2

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    Perhaps it's simply to do with ethics in the brew scene? The community devs aren't asking for any money for their work, and they may be actively withholding a major exploit not only for prolonging it in future updates, but also to prolong piracy from touching the Switch as long as they can. Team Xecuter on the other hand are throwing out whatever they've made and are putting a price-tag on it through hard-mod means, and may be doing so regardless of the consequences (possible access to piracy.)

    Now I'm not saying you can't charge money for hard work that you put in, but if it means throwing the Switch under the bus and letting people pirate games instead (which given the price tags would be highly appealing) then it's probably not the smart or the right thing to do. That's what I think the community devs are upset about.
     
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  3. mustafag32g

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    Lol they wont get no more attention! And it is better that way! Teasing "look at me I can code" get the fuk outta here
     
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  4. djp-AKA-bionic

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    is that you mastag? you still in LV?
     
  5. blujay

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    I strongly believe that the majority of users in this forum confuse coding with exploit development. Coding is by far a lot easier than exploit development, so they shouldn't be comparing the two. Now, exploit development requires the use of coding; however, it requires more than just coding.
     
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  6. FAST6191

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    No doubt they will have their uses that fall under things a judge would describe as substantial non infringing uses, and things which the DMCA exemptions list for all sorts of other non game console devices, but let us not kid ourselves.
     
  7. yardie

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    you did a poor job of explaining the difference between coding and exploiting

    come on

    try again
     
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    To be honest, I don't know enough about exploiting to tell the difference. I just know that exploiting requires a lot more knowledge and experience with machines than programming does.
     
  9. tunip3

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    What do you mean dead end they're is piracy but it is private for now and is software based for now
     
  10. Cubuss

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    Lol whut?
     
  11. tunip3

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    I don't get that if team xecuters option is a cfw with support for newer versions and homebrew then I'll buy it I can only afford 1switch but I have money for a game every few months and I got SMO and had to update but I still want homebrew
     
  12. mustafag32g

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    What is LV?
     
  13. nolimits59

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    I love their work, but their mentality about that always piss me off, like, modding always been part of videogame industry, as piracy (and also cheat devices such as action replays and gamesharks).
    But for them, since the Wii era, we should NEVER buy a modchip or a dongle to mod our consoles, i don't get it.
     
  14. snoofly

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    nascent hacking scenes are fucking awesome — always have been — love it
     
  15. SG854

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  16. RustInPeace

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    That's the most sensible post I've read in this thread so far, I'm kind of surprised at the stuff said here.
     
  17. MaverickWellington

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    Can't wait for the whiners to drop out and the talented to actually make stuff as competition and/or as a hobby. People who care too much about who was first clearly don't have the best intentions for the community or even the stuff they're hacking, they just want attention, and that's no good.
     
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  19. Maluma

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    Aggressive spree? Didn't you assault someone because they made fun of you? People here aren't being aggressive,most are happy team X is coming up with a solution to their needs.
     
  20. smf

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    Are you assuming that team executor has such mad skillz they produced this after just seeing the presentation?

    To me it sounds more plausible they were already working on it and just announced it to avoid people paying lots of money for a hackable switch.

    It wasn't really in the Atari 2600 days. A handful of people had eprom burners, but eproms were pretty expensive. It's only recently that I've even seen evidence of piracy back then. The nes saw pirate cartridges, but people weren't generally pirating themselves. The snes era was when backup devices started showing up, "please load floppy disk #12".....
     
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  21. SonowRaevius

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    Actually a lot of people do. I know people that have gamefly memberships just so they can try games and then buy them later. I know people that pirate 3DS games until they can afford them and if they like them they buy them later.

    The only people that believe that no one tries before they buy are people that are dealing in absolutes of right and wrong.
     
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  22. MaverickWellington

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    I can confirm this personally. Unless the game is F2P, I have pirated every single game in my steam list (besides stuff I play the betas of like DUSK)

    https://i.imgur.com/bKClqLV.png
    https://i.imgur.com/vk1R5mu.png
    https://i.imgur.com/1X569Z8.png

    To say no one tries before buying is incredibly dishonest, because piracy is a great way to try a game before buying it in the age of games without demos. Not to mention games that aren't available digitally or legitimately physically, or games where the current owners of the IP would mean that the original devs would see absolutely zero compensation for their work (EG Doom 1 where only like one guy outside of the whole team would get money and even then he doesn't deserve it but that's a whole other argument.)

    tl;dr that guy's a liar
     
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  23. SG854

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    Do game devs get money from Video Game rental services? If not then they are loosing money.
     
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