Why do you need to get immunized?

[MichaelXD]

Let's get this perfectly clear @MichaelXD. You are an idiot not worth talking to. This is the last time I reply to you.

The right to choose argument is a lie which hides the reality of the situation. You have the responsibility to vaccinate to protect those who are not immune for genuine reasons. You violate their right to personal safety by failing to vaccinate.

Then you should know better.

This is your fault.

Oh, so I sound like Donald Trump now?!

 

[The Catboy]

Do I actually need to get immunized because I have a weakened immune system and get sick very easily. People should also get immunized because that's one of the best ways to prevent spread and protect people like me.

 

[MichaelXD]

Look! You can't get it if no one has it, so I say "it's a waste of time!"

Also what if you become infected from an unknown source first? That's how all outbreaks start!

 

[FAST6191]

Do I actually need to get immunized because I have a weakened immune system and get sick very easily. People should also get immunized because that's one of the best ways to prevent spread and protect people like me.

Whatever medics you have will likely make an assessment based upon whatever info they have on you and your conditions.
If you can take it then you probably want to -- most of the things are terribly unpleasant for an otherwise healthy person but likely lethal and serious negative outcomes if you come in and your immune system has one hand tied behind its back. If not then hope everybody else gets theirs and probably steer clear of outbreaks and places likely to put you into contact with them.

Look! You can't get it if no one has it, so I say "it's a waste of time!"

Also what if you become infected from an unknown source first? That's how all outbreaks start!

But people do have it.
Many things still exist within first world countries, within many third world ones and can be transmitted around by people that wander off to visit and wander back later or vice versa.

There are diseases that are considered eradicated (smallpox being among the more notable) and thus you don't get the vaccines for them as a general course, and others you might only get if visiting an active hotspot (usually a tropical country or a country with certain livestock) or likely to (various military types will get them in case they are deployed somewhere, various healthcare workers will too).

 

[MichaelXD]

But people do have it.
Many things still exist within first world countries, within many third world ones and can be transmitted around by people that wander off to visit and wander back later or vice versa.

There are diseases that are considered eradicated (smallpox being among the more notable) and thus you don't get the vaccines for them as a general course, and others you might only get if visiting an active hotspot (usually a tropical country or a country with certain livestock) or likely to (various military types will get them in case they are deployed somewhere, various healthcare workers will too).

Then why aren't these other diseases pandemics aside from the coronavirus? Also if you get the coronavirus naturally and recover from it, you'll have lifelong immunity. Besides, band-aids smell like crap!

 

[FAST6191]

Then why aren't these other diseases pandemics aside from the coronavirus? Also if you get the coronavirus naturally and recover from it, you'll have lifelong immunity. Besides, band-aids smell like crap!

There are plenty of pandemics and things approaching that line.
There was a flu in the late 1950s that came close, the 1918 Spanish flu is another.
More to plants and animals and you have any number. Prior to this Kung Flu lark then China's pigs were dead and dying at a bit enough rate there was a massive pork shortage (and when your word for meat means pork, everything else being a modifier like some other languages might use apple to describe various fruits and vegetables -- pine apple, a ground apple (pomme de terre in French) then you are in trouble. CJD-BSE in cows is a fun one (and also went into humans) but is more a protein based affair (albeit a transmissible one and one monstrously hard to kill -- you throw your surgical tools away as the heat and radiation can't get it), we probably also have another version of that likely to hit deer before too long (deer being a food source for plenty of people).
HIV-AIDS qualifies in various places as one (thousands of deaths, illnesses and more caused by it)
Smallpox was eradicated save for those things stored in labs. This was 1980 it was declared done. Prior to that... thousands of years it had run around killing loads of people.
Back on not humans then plenty of things go around killing plants and trees or rendering them useless. Dutch elm disease, various moulds on wheat, insects can be an issue, potato blight (if you ever look at a potato in a gardening or farming supply scenario it will have its blight resistance as part of the key details)... Ever wondered why banana sweets don't taste like bananas? Trick question as they do, however the bananas they were based on were wiped out by a disease and they had to switch to another type.

As far as lifelong immunity. There is some debate over that. You also have the "if" problem -- plenty do die, spending a month hooked up to a tube is very expensive and takes a long time to recover from, you may have other lasting effects both in terms of damage to organs and unknown future issues (see post polio syndrome and cancers a lot of polio sufferers got in later life -- it has been less than a year at this point so we don't exactly have data there). Depending upon how you want to play it then it could also evolve to reinfect people (the common cold is a master at this, as is HIV, part of the reason we don't have vaccinations for either) and it does not mean just a round two -- the same virus that causes chickenpox (which is quite serious in adults by the way) also causes shingles in later life (an often chronic and debilitating condition affecting nerves and skin), and the same virus that causes cowpox (a mild disease) also causes smallpox (one that likely will kill you but if not leave you seriously scarred if scars are somehow a thing you care about extremely). Now whether the measures taken for this kung flu business are too much, too slow, not enough, ineffective or the like is a different matter.

I don't disagree on band aids. However what has that got to do with anything?

If videos are your thing then the following is fun

 

[MichaelXD]

There are plenty of pandemics and things approaching that line.
There was a flu in the late 1950s that came close, the 1918 Spanish flu is another.
More to plants and animals and you have any number. Prior to this Kung Flu lark then China's pigs were dead and dying at a bit enough rate there was a massive pork shortage (and when your word for meat means pork, everything else being a modifier like some other languages might use apple to describe various fruits and vegetables -- pine apple, a ground apple (pomme de terre in French) then you are in trouble. CJD-BSE in cows is a fun one (and also went into humans) but is more a protein based affair (albeit a transmissible one and one monstrously hard to kill -- you throw your surgical tools away as the heat and radiation can't get it), we probably also have another version of that likely to hit deer before too long (deer being a food source for plenty of people).
HIV-AIDS qualifies in various places as one (thousands of deaths, illnesses and more caused by it)
Smallpox was eradicated save for those things stored in labs. This was 1980 it was declared done. Prior to that... thousands of years it had run around killing loads of people.
Back on not humans then plenty of things go around killing plants and trees or rendering them useless. Dutch elm disease, various moulds on wheat, insects can be an issue, potato blight (if you ever look at a potato in a gardening or farming supply scenario it will have its blight resistance as part of the key details)... Ever wondered why banana sweets don't taste like bananas? Trick question as they do, however the bananas they were based on were wiped out by a disease and they had to switch to another type.

As far as lifelong immunity. There is some debate over that. You also have the "if" problem -- plenty do die, spending a month hooked up to a tube is very expensive and takes a long time to recover from, you may have other lasting effects both in terms of damage to organs and unknown future issues (see post polio syndrome and cancers a lot of polio sufferers got in later life -- it has been less than a year at this point so we don't exactly have data there). Depending upon how you want to play it then it could also evolve to reinfect people (the common cold is a master at this, as is HIV, part of the reason we don't have vaccinations for either) and it does not mean just a round two -- the same virus that causes chickenpox (which is quite serious in adults by the way) also causes shingles in later life (an often chronic and debilitating condition affecting nerves and skin), and the same virus that causes cowpox (a mild disease) also causes smallpox (one that likely will kill you but if not leave you seriously scarred if scars are somehow a thing you care about extremely). Now whether the measures taken for this kung flu business are too much, too slow, not enough, ineffective or the like is a different matter.

I don't disagree on band aids. However what has that got to do with anything?

If videos are your thing then the following is fun

Because even with a band-aid on your knee from falling down on asphalt or anything, your dear mom will try to rip it off in a room full of cat poop and kitty litter.

 

[Deleted User]

instead of getting imunized you ddrink kombucha. it protects you against anything and everything with a 100% sucess rate.

 

[MichaelXD]

I never received a flu vaccine in my life.

 

[slaphappygamer]

I think you missed the world news, current events, and politics section.

 

[MichaelXD]

I think you missed the world news, current events, and politics section.

Wdym?

 

[slaphappygamer]

Wdym?

If it were me and I wanted to have a serious discussion about immunizations, I’d post in this section.

 

[Deleted User]

instead of getting imunized you ddrink kombucha. it protects you against anything and everything with a 100% sucess rate.

I hope this is a bad joke.