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tomrev said:
Games may be not total cause of violation in gamers but I believed it can stimulate internal human instinct. If you have no idea how to kill the other, you can not kill. Movies, game and every media that can teach you how to do violation, it can be a hidden cause you do a crime. Human have predator instinct in their mind. We will be happy if we have power above the others or harm someone/something.
If you are already mentally unbalanced to the point you only need a small trigger to set you off, whatever the trigger is, you are the problem. The media don't make someone want to kill or commit other crimes. They already want it. And medias don't teach you much in term of crime techniques. Most of it you could deduce or find on Google.
 

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In the 1960's a Psychologist, Albert Bandura, did an experiment with children. He had half of them watch this video (skip to 1:20) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsxfoJEwQQ...feature=related and the other half didnt watch anything. Then he put the children in a room (one at a time) with the Bobo doll and took away all their toys (to piss them off). The children who watched the video did all the things the woman did to the Bobo doll and more. The children who didnt watch the video only punched him once or twice then left him alone.

Its actually pretty funny, one of the kids takes a gun and puts it to Bobo's head , unfortunately there is no sound but I imagine the kid saying I'm gonna bust a cap in you if you dont give me my toys back

tl;dr - kids learn through observational learning, meaning monkey see monkey do
 

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My parents used to do this to me, but not with games, music...

I don't like rap music but there is one rapper that I do like, eminem, don't ask me why, I just do...either way my parents would always say "you're going to go crazy if you listen to that" and cause I was young, I threw tantrums.

So I'm listening to Eminem, then I end up throwing a tantrum over something and my parents stopped me listening to Eminem for like a year or something, looking back on it, it makes me lol at how stupid it was...
 

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mocalacace said:
In the 1960's a Psychologist, Albert Bandura, did an experiment with children. He had half of them watch this video (skip to 1:20) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsxfoJEwQQ...feature=related and the other half didnt watch anything. Then he put the children in a room (one at a time) with the Bobo doll and took away all their toys (to piss them off). The children who watched the video did all the things the woman did to the Bobo doll and more. The children who didnt watch the video only punched him once or twice then left him alone.

tl;dr - kids learn through observational learning, meaning monkey see monkey do
This is completely irrelevant. Young children aren't supposed to play the more mature games. If their parents let them do it, then we know who the real culprit is for the child's violent behavior. A 16 year old won't react the same way as a 6 year old.
 

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gifi4 said:
My parents used to do this to me, but not with games, music...

I don't like rap music but there is one rapper that I do like, eminem, don't ask me why, I just do...either way my parents would always say "you're going to go crazy if you listen to that" and cause I was young, I threw tantrums.

So I'm listening to Eminem, then I end up throwing a tantrum over something and my parents stopped me listening to Eminem for like a year or something, looking back on it, it makes me lol at how stupid it was...

I thought the music itself can not harm anyone but in indirect ways. When listeners like the music, they will like the musician too. They usually attach their mind with image of their hero. Rockers / Rapers have attractive hero image that may lead you do crazy like it.
 

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pyrmon24 said:
mocalacace said:
In the 1960's a Psychologist, Albert Bandura, did an experiment with children. He had half of them watch this video (skip to 1:20) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsxfoJEwQQ...feature=related and the other half didnt watch anything. Then he put the children in a room (one at a time) with the Bobo doll and took away all their toys (to piss them off). The children who watched the video did all the things the woman did to the Bobo doll and more. The children who didnt watch the video only punched him once or twice then left him alone.

tl;dr - kids learn through observational learning, meaning monkey see monkey do
This is completely irrelevant. Young children aren't supposed to play the more mature games. If their parents let them do it, then we know who the real culprit is for the child's violent behavior. A 16 year old won't react the same way as a 6 year old.

Well there are still 7 year old kids on Halo.

And anyways, what about beat em' up games that are rated E or T.
 

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mocalacace said:
pyrmon24 said:
mocalacace said:
In the 1960's a Psychologist, Albert Bandura, did an experiment with children. He had half of them watch this video (skip to 1:20) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsxfoJEwQQ...feature=related and the other half didnt watch anything. Then he put the children in a room (one at a time) with the Bobo doll and took away all their toys (to piss them off). The children who watched the video did all the things the woman did to the Bobo doll and more. The children who didnt watch the video only punched him once or twice then left him alone.

tl;dr - kids learn through observational learning, meaning monkey see monkey do
This is completely irrelevant. Young children aren't supposed to play the more mature games. If their parents let them do it, then we know who the real culprit is for the child's violent behavior. A 16 year old won't react the same way as a 6 year old.

Well there are still 7 year old kids on Halo.

And anyways, what about beat em' up games that are rated E or T.
Isn't that kinda Halo's main audience?
 

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mocalacace said:
pyrmon24 said:
mocalacace said:
In the 1960's a Psychologist, Albert Bandura, did an experiment with children. He had half of them watch this video (skip to 1:20) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsxfoJEwQQ...feature=related and the other half didnt watch anything. Then he put the children in a room (one at a time) with the Bobo doll and took away all their toys (to piss them off). The children who watched the video did all the things the woman did to the Bobo doll and more. The children who didnt watch the video only punched him once or twice then left him alone.

tl;dr - kids learn through observational learning, meaning monkey see monkey do
This is completely irrelevant. Young children aren't supposed to play the more mature games. If their parents let them do it, then we know who the real culprit is for the child's violent behavior. A 16 year old won't react the same way as a 6 year old.

Well there are still 7 year old kids on Halo.

And anyways, what about beat em' up games that are rated E or T.
They aren't supposed to be on Halo, but the parents let them. And which beat em' up are you referring to?
 

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monkat said:
Wouldn't really consider that violent. And, worst case scenario, kids start beating up aliens. And aliens might be bad, so an extra weapon isn't a bad idea. And until they DO see aliens, they won't be able to beat them. See, no problems.
 

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Open up kids cause I'm gonna grape ya in the mouth.

On topic:
Doesn't matter what they say until it starts effecting the release of good video games who cares?
 
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