Why are there no flashcarts that plays clean roms?

Discussion in 'NDS - Flashcarts and Accessories' started by UnknownBeast, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. UnknownBeast

    UnknownBeast Advanced Member

    Nov 1, 2004
    I've been wondering why none(?) of the DS flashcarts today plays clean roms, like the ones for the GBA. Why do the roms have to patched first, anyone know?

    Another question, are there any advantages in using clean roms?

    Thanks for answering [​IMG]
  2. legendofphil

    legendofphil Phil no Densetsu

    Nov 19, 2002
    Its simply because they run from the GBA side, patching the ROMs to tell them where to save.
    Other patches include in game restart and stripping the garbage data to make them smaller.
    When there are DS side flash cards then clean roms will be used, maybe patching earlier for models to fit the onboard save type.
  3. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United States
    Some of the roms that have been through patchers may actually appear as clean to some tools but that is a different matter.

    DS roms are usually loaded and save to the GBA slot which is something they would not otherwise do.
    There exists a nice debate as well in DS roms regarding the secure area of the rom too: this area has to be decrypted to dump the rom and all roms as far as I am aware are distributed without it being encrypted once more, a few tools can do this though and this more accurately matches the data on the DS cart so in theory it is more pure.

    As for advantages, in some ways there are and in some ways there are not: in the current absence of a decent cheating mechanism there are some trainers for roms which can improve the game for some people.
    There are a few translations about which can obviously improve the game for some.
    You can also do things like replace soundfiles: I normally stick the Japanese soundfile from Rockman into Megaman Battle Network which gets rid of the dub.
    I also always drop the intro from Castlevania: it is big (dropping it fits me another game on the cart or even allows people to fit the game on their cart where they previously could not) and it is pointless to boot.
    You can read more of this here: http://www.sosuke.com/ezflash/viewtopic.php?t=457

    I will damned if the above three roms do not improve some peoples playing experience and they can not be considered clean by any standard.
  4. UnknownBeast

    UnknownBeast Advanced Member

    Nov 1, 2004
    Cool, thanks for answering [​IMG]