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Why are Millenials hated?
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Lol is there really a proper definition because I could either be millennial or gen z
I certainly don't know, and I don't believe such definitions should be apropiated in general language.
It’s more of a group such as American, Latinx, Asian, etc. except for birth ranges
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This thread reminded me of one of my favourite quotes
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room - Socrates
Older generations have been bitching about younger generations for genuine millennia. What does make me laugh is that the millennial term is used for people in their late teens and early twenties when in fact millennials are between their late twenties and some are hitting their forties.
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room - Socrates
Older generations have been bitching about younger generations for genuine millennia. What does make me laugh is that the millennial term is used for people in their late teens and early twenties when in fact millennials are between their late twenties and some are hitting their forties.
Probably because all previous generations since the industrial revolution
basically plundered the planet. In recent years (well...since the Seventies or eighties if you look through lobbyists and read actual studies) the cost of that plunder has been brought up, but because the babyboomers not just plundered but also mortgaged the next generation(1), millennials see their personal problems as more important than cleaning up the mess of said earlier generations.
Luckily, generation z is entering the work force. Perhaps they can fix the planet while we... "what do you mean, no job security? Just get a decent job, you lazy assholes!!
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(1): technology might be dirt cheap, but actual houses have become near unaffordable
basically plundered the planet. In recent years (well...since the Seventies or eighties if you look through lobbyists and read actual studies) the cost of that plunder has been brought up, but because the babyboomers not just plundered but also mortgaged the next generation(1), millennials see their personal problems as more important than cleaning up the mess of said earlier generations.
Luckily, generation z is entering the work force. Perhaps they can fix the planet while we... "what do you mean, no job security? Just get a decent job, you lazy assholes!!
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(1): technology might be dirt cheap, but actual houses have become near unaffordable
because they are lazy, make poor decisions, self-riteous, are way too into liberal crap that doesn't get them anywhere in life, cannot afford homes, etc need I say more?
Neh.
Boomers have all the money, and now want to spend it for attention and old age pampering. They love the climate movement. Live a little less sons and daughters, come visit more often, ..What do they care..
They arent investing in green investments shortly before their retirement though, but then - who would..Main issue for the climate movement currently are the US (and then maybe Africa, India, Brazil, ..), but the US mainly. With the US on board investments could be subsidized (everyone start the printing presses, or at least leveraging assets), which clearly is needed, with one of the major economies having moved away from the climate accord, its far, far harder to rectify 'moving quicker' to reach goals earlier.
So that specific one is not an 'age divide' necessarily.
(On the solutions level.) More of a regional divide.Gen Z will also enter the jobs market during a recession, they wont have it easy either. Remember, though, that the main goal of climate action is, everybody live a little less (adjusting CO2 footprint per person).
But GenZ will experience moderate economic growth in the west later in their lives (at least its teased... ) millennials though...That said, in the US Millennials had some wage gains, so they saw life for them moving up for a little while, but the money wasnt intended to be saved, and without securities, no credit and with no longterm wage rises (job security isnt what it was for boomers), again - no credit.
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Needs to be explained.
Key interest rates for savings are close to zero, wages arent growing over time anymore, economic growth doesnt reach workers anymore, and boomer money went into real estate speculation, because that is/was still a pretty safe asset class if you buy in the right areas. This drove rent pricing up. With populations declining, home prices dont necessarily rise anymore either (when millennials are getting into their retirement age), so building your own home also isnt necessarily a safe investment anymore, for everyone - and Millennials usually cant afford it, especially, earlier in their lives.All economic adjustment screws were set, so millennials would spend their income in leassure spending early, to get over the financial crisis quicker.
Them staying longer at their parents is the result of an economic shock (housing prices, the economy - outside of the stock market), moreso, than them being 'lazy'.
Thats also something that maybe needs to be menitoned, if they stay at home longer, parents might call them 'lazy' more often.
Because dad remembers them days, when he was young and...'k boomer.. meme results
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Uh, important part, everyone (every generation) would have ignored the climate externalities, for as long as they could have. Boomers knew it a little earlier and did nothing, now I (millennial) know it, and dont like doing stuff either (at least not the 'live a little less' part, which is needed.).
edit: Population in the US is not expected to decline quite yet.
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At a certain point it was fashionable to hate millennials even though a lot didn't know who exactly they were, but as long as it's popular people will follow good or bad tendencies.
It's really no big deal. Don't be bothered by it.
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It's a shame that the Native Indians lost their countries as they were invaded by European settlers, but no one talks about Native Indians these days. It would have been interesting had the "discoverers" left them alone and we'd see their countries grow naturally.
P.S. Anyone remember the Americapox? That should have been called Europeanpox as they carried it over.
P.P.S. I'm European myself so there are a lot of things my ancestors did right and wrong, something (e.g. colonize countries) I wish they hadn't done unnecessarily.
Well, can't change history now even though some are trying to erase by destroying statues.
It's really no big deal. Don't be bothered by it.
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The majority of the U.S. population are immigrants, mostly Europeans, some Asians, Africans and mixed. In the future, Europeans will likely be in decline as the largest population of the country and some other group replaces them; either Asians or Africans.
It's a shame that the Native Indians lost their countries as they were invaded by European settlers, but no one talks about Native Indians these days. It would have been interesting had the "discoverers" left them alone and we'd see their countries grow naturally.
P.S. Anyone remember the Americapox? That should have been called Europeanpox as they carried it over.
P.P.S. I'm European myself so there are a lot of things my ancestors did right and wrong, something (e.g. colonize countries) I wish they hadn't done unnecessarily.
Well, can't change history now even though some are trying to erase by destroying statues.
Millennial, iGenners, Gen Alpha, Gen X, Gen Y, Baby boomers, Silent generation, Lost generation... whatever generation, they all suck :')
Generalizations suck more than any generation. Anyone who shits in their hand and throws it at all "Millennials" or "Boomers" or whatever collective bunch of people as the cause of all their problems is just a weak, whiny bitch. And probably a fucking Democrat.
(relax Xzi, that's sarcasm)
(relax Xzi, that's sarcasm)
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Current Deloitte Global Millennial Survey 2020 is out.
- Close to half (48%) of Gen Z and 44% of millennial respondents in the primary survey said they’re stressed all or most of the time. But in the pulse survey, anxiety levels fell eight points for both generations, indicating a potential silver lining to the disruption caused by the pandemic.
- Half of respondents in the primary survey said they believe it’s too late to repair the damage caused by climate change. But in our pulse survey, this figure dropped, suggesting that the pandemic’s environmental impact—reduced economic activity has lowered energy use and therefore pollution—has given hope that there is still time to take action and protect the planet.
- The pandemic has brought about an even stronger sense of individual responsibility. Nearly three-fourths said the pandemic has made them more sympathetic toward others’ needs and that they intend to take actions to have a positive impact on their communities.
- Both generations said they’ll make a special effort to more actively patronize and support businesses—especially smaller, local sellers— after the pandemic. But they won’t hesitate to penalize companies whose stated and practiced values conflict with their own.
- A majority of respondents gave businesses and governments high marks for their pandemic responses. Actions taken during the crisis, however, did not translate into overall better opinions of business.
- Many are financially prudent and literate. While long-term finances are a top cause of stress, more than half of millennials, and nearly half of Gen Zs, are saving money and could cope if they unexpectedly received a large bill. [keyword: a larger bill]
- Job loyalty rises as businesses address employee needs, from diversity and inclusion to sustainability and reskilling. In the primary survey, more millennials said they’d like to stay with their employers for at least five years than would prefer to leave within two years. This is unprecedented since Deloitte first asked this question in our 2016 survey. It remains to be seen how the pandemic may affect loyalty. [Thats code fore 'half of them lost their jobs'.]
Reported stress levels actually went down after the pandemic:
- Having enough money to pay the bills is a long-running cause of stress for many, but it’s especially acute for millennials and Gen Zs.4 As last year’s report noted, both generations were hit hard by the economic recession of the late 2000s, affecting their wages, savings, and career paths. In this year’s primary survey, more millennials (50%) foresaw their financial situations worsening or stagnating in the next year than those who believe they will improve (42%). In pulse countries, 54% conveyed similar pessimism in the primary survey, a number that jumped to 61% during the crisis. That’s long-term. In the near future, prospects are potentially not as dim for many because during the pandemic there are far fewer opportunities to spend disposable income.
- In the primary survey, barely half of millennials (51%) said business is a force for good, down from 76% just three years ago and 55% last year. Five months later—while offering flattering opinions of companies’ pandemic response—only 41% of millennials (and 43% of Gen Zs) in pulse countries agreed that business in general around the world was having a positive impact on wider society.
src: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ts/presse/Deloitte-Millennial-Survey-2020.pdf
Fun.
So "hated by whom" would be an interesting follow up question.
Also, I have to slightly alter my prejudices.. While millennials know nothing about how corporate structures influence their lives, more than half of them actually agreed, that corporations dont have a positive impact on society. So.. there is some awareness, that something is wrong...
- Close to half (48%) of Gen Z and 44% of millennial respondents in the primary survey said they’re stressed all or most of the time. But in the pulse survey, anxiety levels fell eight points for both generations, indicating a potential silver lining to the disruption caused by the pandemic.
- Half of respondents in the primary survey said they believe it’s too late to repair the damage caused by climate change. But in our pulse survey, this figure dropped, suggesting that the pandemic’s environmental impact—reduced economic activity has lowered energy use and therefore pollution—has given hope that there is still time to take action and protect the planet.
- The pandemic has brought about an even stronger sense of individual responsibility. Nearly three-fourths said the pandemic has made them more sympathetic toward others’ needs and that they intend to take actions to have a positive impact on their communities.
- Both generations said they’ll make a special effort to more actively patronize and support businesses—especially smaller, local sellers— after the pandemic. But they won’t hesitate to penalize companies whose stated and practiced values conflict with their own.
- A majority of respondents gave businesses and governments high marks for their pandemic responses. Actions taken during the crisis, however, did not translate into overall better opinions of business.
- Many are financially prudent and literate. While long-term finances are a top cause of stress, more than half of millennials, and nearly half of Gen Zs, are saving money and could cope if they unexpectedly received a large bill. [keyword: a larger bill]
- Job loyalty rises as businesses address employee needs, from diversity and inclusion to sustainability and reskilling. In the primary survey, more millennials said they’d like to stay with their employers for at least five years than would prefer to leave within two years. This is unprecedented since Deloitte first asked this question in our 2016 survey. It remains to be seen how the pandemic may affect loyalty. [Thats code fore 'half of them lost their jobs'.]
Reported stress levels actually went down after the pandemic:
- Having enough money to pay the bills is a long-running cause of stress for many, but it’s especially acute for millennials and Gen Zs.4 As last year’s report noted, both generations were hit hard by the economic recession of the late 2000s, affecting their wages, savings, and career paths. In this year’s primary survey, more millennials (50%) foresaw their financial situations worsening or stagnating in the next year than those who believe they will improve (42%). In pulse countries, 54% conveyed similar pessimism in the primary survey, a number that jumped to 61% during the crisis. That’s long-term. In the near future, prospects are potentially not as dim for many because during the pandemic there are far fewer opportunities to spend disposable income.
- In the primary survey, barely half of millennials (51%) said business is a force for good, down from 76% just three years ago and 55% last year. Five months later—while offering flattering opinions of companies’ pandemic response—only 41% of millennials (and 43% of Gen Zs) in pulse countries agreed that business in general around the world was having a positive impact on wider society.
src: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ts/presse/Deloitte-Millennial-Survey-2020.pdf
Fun.
So "hated by whom" would be an interesting follow up question.
Also, I have to slightly alter my prejudices..
While millennials know nothing about how corporate structures influence their lives, more than half of them actually agreed, that corporations dont have a positive impact on society. So.. there is some awareness, that something is wrong...
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Hating the next generation is simply a rite of passage. You'll likely eventually hate whatever the next generation after you is named (and your generation will pick that name). If you read newspapers from the 19th century regularly (as I once had to for my job), you'll see there is truly nothing new under the sun as it relates to human behavior. There was never a golden age when people were good and smart. But a majority of every generation looks back fondly upon their youth and feels that the current youth will be the downfall of civilization. I wish I could point you to the issue of the Brooklyn Eagle from the 1840s where I first read a similar quote, but I'm certain the idea is far older than that. Older folks always whine about new music too, forgetting how crappy most of the music was when they were kids (My Ding-a-Ling by noted sex offender Chuck Berry was a number one hit in the early 1970s. Remind anyone my age of that whenever they blame you for Justin Bieber.)
Most of the entitlement comes from the boomer generation and has just had a trickle down effect.
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