Hacking Who hasn't yet installed arm9loaderhax? Why?

[Deleted User]

Does arm9l have a region and signature patch on cia files like rxTools? I really know little about cfw...

 

[pbanj]

Are you also referring to the N3DS? I am pretty sure there is a significant speed increase on N3DS, because the NAND chip reads/writes faster than the SD slot. It also removes some strain on the SD card because it handles the NAND and the SD .cia installation at the same time.

It probably isn't too noticeable on O3DS though, but the remaining benefits are still a good reason to update from menuhax to A9LH.

Yes on the n3ds. Before when I used emunand I got between 1.8 and 2MBs and I get the same using sysnand mode. It's because the files are not being installed to the nand. They are being installed to the sd card, the Nintendo 3ds folder to be exact

 

[CrispyYoshi]

Does arm9l have a region and signature patch on cia files like rxTools? I really know little about cfw...

A9LH is just a small patch to sysnand that tells it to boot whatever software you put at SD:/arm9loaderhax.bin

However, you could make your arm9loaderhax.bin a CFW like AuReiNand, which includes region/signature patch features as it boots up, so technically the answer is "yes".

 

[Salamencizer]

Does arm9l have a region and signature patch on cia files like rxTools? I really know little about cfw...

Yes, if you use aureinand.

 

[JohnathanMonkey]

I want to do this and switch to aureinand but I just can't bring myself to do it. Seems like to much of a hassle.

 

[Toasty]

My theory is a lot of people are still in the old days of doing things. The 3DS is the first Nintendo handheld where soft modding without extra hardware can be done. I think a lot of people would rather just buy a flashcart and do things the way they've always known. I'm part of a9lh master race though. The 3DS flashcarts always seemed shady to me so I've avoided them successfully. The DS had many good flashcarts towards the end of its life, though. Another huge problem I have with flashcarts is availability. Just a few years ago finding a legit reseller was quite easy. Nowadays it's hard to trust anyone.

 

[hobbledehoy899]

i don't want to spend 3 hours just so my 3ds takes 10 seconds less to boot

...You can also load Decrypt9/EmuNAND9/any other ARM9 payload you could think of before the NAND gets booted, which is a feature of A9LH I constantly see getting over-looked my many people...

 

[CrispyYoshi]

Yes on the n3ds. Before when I used emunand I got between 1.8 and 2MBs and I get the same using sysnand mode. It's because the files are not being installed to the nand. They are being installed to the sd card, the Nintendo 3ds folder to be exact

I think I'll have to do more testing with that, because it would seem like reading emunand while writing the .cia would slow down the process.

I want to do this and switch to aureinand but I just can't bring myself to do it. Seems like to much of a hassle.

It's about a 2-3 hour process from where you are, but 75% of that is waiting for NAND dumping/writing. If you're gonna do it, do it in a single sitting, keep track of what you're doing, and perhaps find some other activity to do while doing it (listen to music, play a game, anything to keep you occupied)

 

[Uziskull]

I repeat: SYSNAND BRICK RESTORE WITHOUT A HARDMOD.

Don't get me wrong, but I use my 3DS solely for games. Since I boot to emuNAND automatically (and since I actually have a brain, so updating problems are not really an issue), there's virtually no chance for me to brick my console.
My point still remains: I have no need for A9LH.

 

[pbanj]

I want to do this and switch to aureinand but I just can't bring myself to do it. Seems like to much of a hassle.

You can switch to aureinand without doing a9lh


Again a9lh is not cfw and cfw is not hack/entry point. Cfw is rxtools, cakes, aureinand, reinand.
Entry points are a9lh, menuhax, browserhax, cubic ninja, ooth, meet, ect...

 

[Amapola62]

I switched too Aureinand but still use Menuhax...

 

[JohnathanMonkey]

You can switch to aureinand without doing a9lh


Again a9lh is not cfw and cfw is not hack/entry point. Cfw is rxtools, cakes, aureinand, reinand.
Entry points are a9lh, menuhax, browserhax, cubic ninja, ooth, meet, ect...

I know this but it seems to be what everyone is doing.

 

[TimX24968B]

My O3DSXL doesn't have it or need it; menuhax works fine. Never had an issue with it (except for an OCCASIONAL crash)

 

[Xana]

I've just been waiting for the whole process to settle down so I don't have to risk it more than once or twice.

 

[Bubsy Bobcat]

...You can also load Decrypt9/EmuNAND9/any other ARM9 payload you could think of before the NAND gets booted, which is a feature of A9LH I constantly see getting over-looked my many people...

ctrbootmanager can let me boot into anything else including decrypt9 or homebrew if I need to, so that does the job for me.

 

[hobbledehoy899]

ctrbootmanager can let me boot into anything else including decrypt9 or homebrew if I need to, so that does the job for me.

Right, but you still have to have the (exploited) home-menu load/boot, which means waiting for the sysNAND to be read from, which then means you can't un-brick your system without a NAND-based hardware-modification. It was that one aspect of A9LH of not having to wait through that process (keeping in mind that I'm not even talking about the time aspect of the situation) that really motivated me to, as they say, "take the plunge."

 

[Hayleia]

Yeah I've read Plailect's guide, and I was still confused. It mostly comes down to worrying, because I want to be 100% certain that I'm doing the right stuff. And menuhax, I tried and tried to understand how to get it, but I just didn't find any information that didn't clash with some other information. Haha!
I do want to look into a9lh, but since I'm an idiot when it comes to this I have to ask: are there any pros and cons of still having emuNAND with a9lh (except the space)? Are there any particular things I should know about a9lh? Will the store work? Will I get update nagging? You know... all that stuff

I'm getting more and more interested in a9lh, since I do think it's a bitch to always boot rxtools, just to play even store bought games (Majora's Mask for example).

For menuhax, put the starter kit from here http://smealum.github.io/3ds/ on your SD card (you should have a boot.3dsx file and a 3ds folder at the root of your SD). Then trigger browserhax by visiting this website and maybe click the slider on the top left corner of the touchscreen. If it didn't work, try clearing browser data (history, cookies, stuff) and try again. Then launch menuhax manager, do "Install" and configure things the way you want.
Note that this basically only works for 9.0-9.2 since only these ones both have theme information (needed for menuhax) and CFW compatibility (needed for CFW obviously).

Then, about sysNAND vs emuNAND,
-sysNAND pros : no need to isntall any VC twice, reclaim emuNAND space, boots faster (8 seconds instead of 13 for emuNAND and instead of 21 for menuhax, basically).
-emuNAND pros : extra safety (don't be afraid of Nintendo but of yourself, it is completely possible that you make errors and if you do them on emuNAND, that's never important), less steps (since you already have an emuNAND, no need to swap stuff)

And your last questions don't really make sense. A9LH is just another entrypoint so the store will not work and you'll get nagging if you use A9LH on a non updated (sys/emu)NAND, but the store will work and you won't get nagging on an updated (sys/emu)NAND
The things to notice is that your 3DS won't work without an SD card once arm9loaderhax is setup, but you'll also have recovery options even before sysNAND boots so technically, that's why using sysNAND with A9LH is safe, you can pretty much always restore a sysNAND backup (except in cases that shouldn't happen without user error).

 

[Arubaro]

Right, but you still have to have the (exploited) home-menu load/boot, which means waiting for the sysNAND to be read from, which then means you can't un-brick your system without a NAND-based hardware-modification. It was that one aspect of A9LH of not having to wait through that process (keeping in mind that I'm not even talking about the time aspect of the situation) that really motivated me to, as they say, "take the plunge."

But you don't need to unbrick anything if you don't mess up anything and do things knowing the proper information

 

[Viri]

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE ARM9LOADER MASTER RACE!

 

[astronautlevel]

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE ARM9LOADER MASTER RACE!

Honestly, the whole a9lh master race thing was funny at first, but got old reaaal quick.