When Sony Attacks, Police Raid graf_chokolo's home

[Law]

wtf sony there's gonna be retaliation this time they've dug their own graves!

Ooooh! Scandalous!!! lol

When Sony said they were going after people, they were serious!!! And it took them no time at all, either.

I just say that all of the hackers and modders just collaborate and just take the PS3 down, from static IP addresses. Sony has yet to actually fix their security problem with it, or take the time to make the common key random, so it shouldn't be too hard to take down. Maybe a little virus that could make PSN unusable until Sony can fix it... lol That would be some initiative to fix there security there. lol

I really hope they do this so they just get thrown in jail.

 

[trumpet-205]

graf_chokolo only reverse engineered, nothing to do with piracy. If that isn't legal, neither are Anti-Virus's.

Sorry? AV reverse engineered on virus themselves, which has no legal standing what so ever.

"The reverse engineering of software in the US is generally illegal because most EULA prohibit it, and courts have found such contractual prohibitions to override the copyright law; see Bowers v. Baystate Technologies. Article 6 of the 1991 EU Computer Programs Directive allows reverse engineering for the purposes of interoperability, but prohibits it for the purposes of creating a competing product, and also prohibits the public release of information obtained through reverse engineering of software." --- from Wiki

 

[emigre]

wtf sony there's gonna be retaliation this time they've dug their own graves!

Ooooh! Scandalous!!! lol

When Sony said they were going after people, they were serious!!! And it took them no time at all, either.

I just say that all of the hackers and modders just collaborate and just take the PS3 down, from static IP addresses. Sony has yet to actually fix their security problem with it, or take the time to make the common key random, so it shouldn't be too hard to take down. Maybe a little virus that could make PSN unusable until Sony can fix it... lol That would be some initiative to fix there security there. lol

I really hope they do this so they just get thrown in jail.

Whilst in the process affecting and damaging the enjoyment of millions of legitamite users. Seriously anything which hurts legitamite users will result in hackers losing their credability and moral cause.

 

[ZeroTm]

He brought that upon himself. Sony is not overreacting whatsoever. They are just protecting their own goods, even if it means to raid someone's house. Pirates deserve to be punished. (I do realize that I'm on a hacking website, but as time passed I realized that we need to support the game industry, not damaging it by pirating every game we see.

 

[antwill]

I can't believe all you people, what is wrong with you all using logic and reasoning instead of blatant anti-Sony comments! You should all be ashamed of yourselves for thinking. No but seriously, why do most of these people seem to not read the post and think that Sony controls the police force?

 

[foxgrey]

I think everyone misses out on the point of this. Most scene hackers do what they do, because the consoles are theirs, and information should be free. Even though the community involved generally use the exploits for piracy, the actaul Devs don't usually have that intention.

Anytime a corporation can take away our rights and freedoms is an outrage. I hope that someone is able to take the HV bible that Chaf released and make some serious shit for the ps3. Things that take down the networks for innocent users is not the way. Enabling piracy, or massive online cheats is not the way either. How about some real CFW that truely gives us a machine "that does everything", that can be installed with no prior hacks or dongles on any ps3!

Hit sony where it hurts, not the software devs!

 

[zachpl]

He brought that upon himself. Sony is not overreacting whatsoever. They are just protecting their own goods, even if it means to raid someone's house. Pirates deserve to be punished. (I do realize that I'm on a hacking website, but as time passed I realized that we need to support the game industry, not damaging it by pirating every game we see.

All graf did was work on linux. I love when all the sony fanboys bring in piracy in every fucking sentence when they have nothing to do with it.

 

[Maedhros]

What Sony has to do with the police raiding his house? It wasn't Sony thugs who invaded the house, you know, it's just a legal procedure, as already said on the topic.

 

[Joe88]

was he the one who threatened sony to release the HV code if sony didnt stop?

 

[nl255]

Well, those computers are trash now as they will probably put rootkits and other spyware on them (including in the BIOS) so he will have to trash/sell them after carefully recovering as much data as possible.

 

[DarkCrudus]

was he the one who threatened sony to release the HV code if sony didnt stop?

he sure is, and then he did it =P

 

[nl255]

was he the one who threatened sony to release the HV code if sony didnt stop?

Already been released, presumably via dead man's switch from a remote server in another country.

 

[awssk8er]

This is just ridiculous.

I lost respect for Sony a while ago, but if it gets any worse than this, it might actually change whether I want to buy their products or not.

 

[WiiUBricker]

That's fake.

 

[DarkCrudus]

What Sony has to do with the police raiding his house? It wasn't Sony thugs who invaded the house, you know, it's just a legal procedure, as already said on the topic.

what sony has to do with the police is sony has been trying to get graf, which through the police they did. though the police werent sony employees they were most likely put on alert by sony, and that is what they have to do with the police

 

[TheDarkSeed]

Hearing this makes me wonder how far Sony will go. They might start putting out Mob hits on hackers.

 

[lordrand11]

graf_chokolo only reverse engineered, nothing to do with piracy. If that isn't legal, neither are Anti-Virus's.

Sorry? AV reverse engineered on virus themselves, which has no legal standing what so ever.

"The reverse engineering of software in the US is generally illegal because most EULA prohibit it, and courts have found such contractual prohibitions to override the copyright law; see Bowers v. Baystate Technologies. Article 6 of the 1991 EU Computer Programs Directive allows reverse engineering for the purposes of interoperability, but prohibits it for the purposes of creating a competing product, and also prohibits the public release of information obtained through reverse engineering of software." --- from Wiki

Yes in the US its generally illegal. I don't know about Germany though.

 

[matt382]

Am I the only one who thinks Sony hasn't done anything wrong? I mean all they are doing is protecting their software. Their actions may be a little over-exaggurated, but still... And when people say they are trying to control people's consoles and ownership and stuff, I don't agree. I think that Sony are trying to protect the software, cus when people buy the console, they don't own the software.. Sony still has rights over it.

 

[yellowthunder]

Am I the only one who thinks Sony hasn't done anything wrong? I mean all they are doing is protecting their software. Their actions may be a little over-exaggurated, but still... And when people say they are trying to control people's consoles and ownership and stuff, I don't agree. I think that Sony are trying to protect the software, cus when people buy the console, they don't own the software.. Sony still has rights over it.

I'm still thinking the raiding part was a little too far.

 

[donelwero]

No you're not the only one. I mean, there had to be retaliation for what hackers were doing, but this has gone too far. I won't and I mean it, wont be buying anything from sony, not a single usb. F*ck them, they can't be above people's rights.

You bought it, you own it. You can do whatever you want with it. Just think about it, what are the gonna do now? Go after every site that publishes homebrew, news and info about the PS3/PSP scene? I don't know if filetrip hosts any kind of PS3/PSP homebrew, will they take it down??

Really, f*ck them, hope that at least 100K people stops buying their shit.