When are we going to get Haxchi for Free?

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  1. AkitoTheHedgy
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    Hello! When are we going to get haxchi for free? Just wondering.

    I also posted this somewhere else by an accident and I need someone to delete it. Its in nnid
     
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  3. SuperDan

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    CBHC forever
     
  4. Milenko

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    Buy brainage, the money you save by doing so is a small price to pay
     
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    I thought all homebrew was free. :blink:
     
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    it is.

    but for the cold boot hack which saves you having to load the haxchi app after boot(it auto boots that app at bootup) you need a very cheap nintendo eshop title..
     
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  8. AkitoTheHedgy
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    Wii u usb loader?

    Can we use Wi usb Loader to download Brain Age and install haxchi like that?
     
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  9. toxic9

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    What about when wiiu eshop servers are down and you can't buy the ds game?
     
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    When are we going to get people who can buy a $100 at least console but not a $7 game...
     
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    Why would anyone bother? Brain Age isn't that expensive.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    CHBC is exceedingly dangerous (random corruption, a wrong button tap in settings, etc = brick) and saves near-zero time - tapping an icon on the home menu after booting isn't a huge deal. And very little even needs Haxchi. Just games from a different region, disc only games, emulators and DLC. Most games have versions in all major regions and most games have no DLC. So it's not like one would even need to run Haxchi most of the time.

    Haxchi itself requires the DS title, not CBHC. CHBC is just a configuration of Haxchi.
     
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  12. Ryccardo

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    The other topic was in my opinion more fitting, since Haxchi and CBHC are already free - only an original copy of Nintendo digital game you need to install them isn't free, and only Nintendo has any saying on its price (unless a way to correctly sign tickets is found, yeah suuuure)

    Not really, it's certainly one more piece of the boot chain, but it's not like the other parts are tiny and inherently reliable either

    On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
    — Charles Babbage

    or, in other word, the computer does what the operator tells it to do (and if you're using the builtin cfw as you are recommended to, you are protected from "a wrong button tap" since it will block overwriting or uninstalling the exploit title, while a factory reset needs well more than one tap) :)
     
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    Yeah, this is a nonsense non-technical take. It's not 'part of the boot chain'. It's an application that is executed upon completion of boot that, if a byte is wrong, if it is modified unintentionally, if anything goes wrong.....you are unable to launch the home screen. You're trapped.

    The rest of your take sucks too. The added connivence is minimal, but the risk is great. The bigger risk is the one you can't control, that being corruption occurring on the crappy Wii U eMMC. More than a few people have bricked that way.

    Using CBHC is playing with fire for so, so little gain.
     
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    No! This will brick the console as it wouldn't be a legitimate title purchase, preventing the console to launch Brain Age on boot.
     
  15. Ryccardo

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    It is, as long as it's set as the default app - that's the whole principle it relies on: if the default app is missing or unusable, it's going to be a problem regardless of whether that's Wii U Menu, Brain Training, some alternative to Wii U Menu for developers, or something completely unrelated

    By percentage of reported bricks with a known cause - that's rather unlikely (though of course possible) - the vast majority is caused by cockpit error

    Of course whether that's a worthwhile tradeoff is inherently subjective - aren't we modding our consoles to escape someone telling their way is the only right way? :)
     
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    'Cockpit error' is a shitty way to look at the world. The tool in question is widely used by people who don't understand the risks or the purpose of the tool. Almost no one even needs Haxchi; the vast majority of what people do with hacked Wii Us - play pirated games - works on OFW. Haxchi is just for out-of-region games (which itself can be done without Haxchi, but I'm not going to pretend that novices know how to modify the relevant file without bricking) and DLC and emulators. Oh, and the five or six disc only games.

    We should be encouraging people to use safe (enough) tools, not unleashing bricks onto the world. Nothing is perfectly safe, but CBHC is so fragile that it is morally iffy to recommend it.

    We're talking about people opening themselves up, unknowingly, to massive brick risk in exchange for a minor connivence gain.
     
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    Mocha CFW is free and is comparable to Haxchi. Instead of opening a DS title, however, you use the internet browser instead.

    There is no free coldboot alternative to CBHC. However, this could one day lead to a free coldboot exploit similar to CBHC. Instead of using a NDS title, it will use vWii. However, since the Wii U is scene is largely dead, it looks likely nobody will ever put in the time and effort to do this.

    From hexkyz (the above link):
     
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  18. Ryccardo

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    And that's another point on which we can rightfully all have our own opinion - I believe not screwing up is "a nice side effect of actually reading the manual that you actually were able to read in advance but if you didn't was probably out of laziness while wanting Fr33 G4m3z for free, without putting in effort, at the lowest cost, and for free"
     
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    And I think you suck as a person for refusing to take into account the world as it is into the way you think and act.
     
  20. AkitoTheHedgy
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    :C So no free Haxchi right now.
     
  21. toxic9

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    Blahblah is right. Cbhc is extremely dangerius.
    I never used it because I'm an advanced user and I comprehend the risk.
    Some time ago I changed my user id in system files. Everything seemed ok. Then an update has come. I let it update. After that haxchi stopped working because system guessed I deleted the user that bought the ds game.
    Luckily I was not using cbhc. If I did, it was a brick for sure. I hope this story give you an idea of the risk of speed up the proccess of tapping a button after boot.
     
  22. lafleche

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    I understand the op.
    Haxchi itself is free but the games on which it depends are not
    They are very cheap butI It also depends on the wiiu eshop.
    So what if wiiu eshop closes.

    It would be great if some clever person finds a way to Install haxchi over for example a system app like health and safety....
     
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