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    And now I'm partially annoyed, and equally confused. Your statement has two interpretations. I understand which version (of Islam) your speaking of. However "is the true religion" part of your statement is left to way too much interpretation and isn't clear.
    Interpretation 1: Islam is superior to every religion. Which if that's what your saying, it isn't. People can believe in what ever they wish. (however, that doesn't excuse them from criticism or actions.)
    interpretation 2: The real Islam is better than the terrorist version and is the real version.
    Which if that's what you mean. Then ok, why are you telling me that?
    I hope you understand that I already kind of figured that the terrorist version differs from the "real" version. I say "real" in quotation marks because the fact is, with a lot of regions, certain clauses get ignored by the public or change over time. Making it difficult to say which is the "real" religion. (Going to state this again. It doesn't mean you should use religion as a excuse to do a terrible crime. Everything is open to criticism.)
    This part annoys me to every degree possible.
    Not only did you respond to a post that said
    "I don't care about someones religious beliefs as long as they don't force it on me"
    But you also completely ignored my own beliefs.
    I'm not angry, but rather disappointed, and very annoyed, that you decided to preach to a post that isn't interested.
     
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    How dare you! Our almighty creator Cthulu shall burn you for your insolence! Is his beauty not self evident in the world he's created? All hail Cthulu! Join the church of Cthulu Now, or BURN!!!

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    About 'true' or 'real' Islam : Is that the Sunni one? The Shia one? Suffi? Alawites? Druze? and there are dozens more.... even judaism share the same roots as the islam.. all of them are so called 'Abrahamic religions and that is something most muslims don't even accept as they hate Israel and the Jews.

    So even when you talk about real islam you are not even very clear on what you mean .... and in the real world the different factions hate each others guts... islam is peace? Don't make me laugh.... religion is war and islam is no exception!
     
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    /s

    "I couldn't help it."
    "Hey, sarkwalvein, can't you take anything seriously?"
    "It seems I can't"
     
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    Funnily enough, I was going to mention that song when I was talking about my transformation from Christianity.
     
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    I may jokingly call people heathens for not believing in a god but I don't believe such a being exists. The only way one could exist is as an idea or as most people like to say imaginary friend.

    Edit. As a religion it could be a great thing if people weren't so mean and judgmental. But as everyone is well aware that's not the case.
     
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    mattytrog You don`t want to listen to anything I say.
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    As a Christian, I rather like it.
     
  9. eleventh

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    Like most people I am poly-Atheist.
    There are many gods I don't believe in: Don't believe in Zeus, Thor (even though he had a great movie), Dagda, Nyame, Vishnu, the Abahamitic God, etc.
    Only difference between me and other people is of the 100 000 gods, I don't believe in 100 000 of them. Other people don't believe in 99 999 of them. So only 0.00001% difference in thought.
     
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    I don't. If god created the universe, then how can there be more than one god?

    But the ten commandments are pretty good things to live by if you want a nice quiet existence.

    IMO back when christianity and islam was invented, there wasn't a well structured legal & consumer rights system. So it made sense to throw it in with religion, because people were scared of god.

    In the western world people are scared of going to prison, so we don't really need god as a concept for controlling people. The islamic countries still have a poor legal, human rights, consumer rights system etc & so they will hold onto it for a while longer.

    I may of course be wrong about god not existing. It's impossible to say based on the available facts (i.e. there are no facts and people are very unreliable).
     
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    Yeah, man. The same as Loki, my favorite god. Too bad he is dead now, but sure he will be resurrected soon... I mean, it wouldn't be the first or the last time that happens.
     
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    The terrorists would claim that u are a hypocrite for not wanting to fight for God. They could quote the Quran - as you would be able to do. How are we to judge who is correct?
    Their verses are most likely going to be later than yours, they argue that newer ones abrogate older ones if there seems to be a contradiction. This method is confirmed by most main stream scholars in Islam.

    Again: How can we Non-muslims tell who is right?
    Did you know there are Muslims who refuse to say the Shahada because Muhammad appears right with God's name which could be interpreted as the greatest sin (shirk; associating partners to God). Are they Muslims? They would claim you aren't.

    On Topic: Christianity is disproven by the fact that Christ didn't return.
    Judaism and Islam (and Christianity) are disproven by the fact that God needs people to fight for him despite being all-powerful.
    Further arguments:
    -it is obvious the holy books are of human origin (and yes, it is also true for Islam)
    -the problem of evil (they contradict his attributes)
    -the hidenness of God (only revealing himself to certain people is favoritism; he sends people to hell who do not believe, even though he is to blame for the lack of evidence; thereby rewarding the gullible and punishing the critical)
    -the vile nature of God (punishing people ETERNALLY is ridiculous and makes him more evil than Satan)
     
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    I think you misunderstand me. By God, I was including things along the lines of 'career, family, etc.'
     
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    The idea of beeing nice to each other is good but I don't need a god for this plus most christian people use their being a christian to give a reason hating other people ... same with more or less every religion
     
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    Religion as a whole is just shit. I only need to believe in myself to achieve anything great out of life.
     
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    I'm fine with whatever people believe in. They're free to so as long as they're not shoving their beliefs in other people's throats or go apeshit and wage war about it.
     
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    I agree that would be a logical way to think for everyone, but Christianity has the most power over people. Even people who are not believers (Atheists) go by Bibles philosophy first and compare situations and expectations according to the Bible. I've never heard a non-believer mention Quran or something else when they start debating God.
     
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    Only atheists whose only frame of reference is Christianity. If you grew up in a pastafarian community, then you would use the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster.

    It's unlikely if you grew up with the quran and became atheist that you'd debate it very much. That doesn't go down well.
     
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    Good point. Still I rarely saw Muslims that don't practice their original religion, at least the basic values. So I came to conclusion that most of atheists are just fallen Christians or have never been brought up in religious environment in the first place.
     
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