What's the recommended way of watching Star Trek?

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    Been wanting to get into Star Trek for a while, and finally decided to do so after hearing Cumberbatch is in Into Darkness >3>;
    I have so far acquired the 2009 movie, and as far as I understand that movie and the upcoming one can be watched without having seen the rest of it.
    However, the universe does interest me, which is why I wanna get into it.

    So, echoing the title:
    What's the recommended way of watching Star Trek?
     


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    Considering that the movies are set in a alternate timeline than the show (except Enterprise whose events take place in both timelines) you don't exactly have to watch the series. BUT, if you do, I recommend you watch it historically and in this order...

    - Enterprise
    - The Original Series
    - Next Generation
    - Deep Space nine
    - Voyager

    Also, if you can, read the "Romulan Wars" (The Good That Men Do, Kobiyashi, Romulan Wars 1 and 2) Enterprise Novels before starting the Original Series. They explain a lot. And for those of you who are about to get on my case for suggesting novels. My thing is this. if they fill in a major spot in the Star Trek Universe that is not explained in the TV show and don't break TV cannon too much (i.e. minor things here and there) then I consider them cannon until something on screen disproves the novel. in the case of the Enterprise novels I'm suggesting, they do a damn good job explaining the time after the end of ENT and before the start of TOS.
     
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    Not sure there really is one, beyond trying each TV series (the original, Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise) and seeing what you enjoy. As you mention the new movies totally re-invent Star Trek "mythology" so any relationships would be merely a knowing wink to fans, rather than essential knowledge.

    Just dip into each in turn.....they're different enough, yet similar enough to be enjoyable, although some are quite dated.
     
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    A lot of the episodes are stand alone so pick whatever seems to interest you in my opinion. Pick a series you like and watch a few standalones or serials.

    Personally I'm a fan the Next Generation since that was what I used to watch as a kid with me Dad but they all have their good points (I never really got all the hate on Enterprise for instance). Borg episodes from TNG are some of my favourites. High stakes and the crew are just as clueless about the Borg as you are in the audience.
     
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    Enterprise takes place in an alternate timeline itself. But it doesn't significantly change until the 2009 movie. So I second LightyKD's recommendation. As for the movies. Do not watch Generations (#7) before watching The Next Generation, or Nemesis (#10) before watching Voyager, although the later is just a minor cameo.
    Personally I couldn't stand the original series until I got into The Next Generation.
     
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    As you already mentioned, the 2009 film and the upcoming 2013 film can be watched without being familiar with the rest of the Star Trek universe. However, if you're interested in getting into Star Trek, you can either watch them in order of release or in chronological order.

    Chronological order:
    • Star Trek: Enterprise (2151-2155)
    • Star Trek: The Original Series (2265-2269)
      • Star Trek: The Motion Picture (2270s, not worth watching)
      • Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (2285)
      • Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (2285)
      • Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (2286, 1986)
      • Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (2287, not worth watching)
      • Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (2293)
    • Star Trek: The Next Generation (2364-2370)
    • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (2369-2375)
      • Star Trek VII: Generations (2371, 2293)
    • Star Trek: Voyager (2371-2378)
      • Star Trek VIII: First Contact (2373, 2063)
      • Star Trek IX: Insurrection (2375)
      • Star Trek X: Nemesis (2379)
      • Star Trek 2009 (2387, Alternate 2258)
      • Star Trek: Into Darkness (Alternate 2259)
    In order of release:
    • Star Trek: The Original Series (1966-1969)
      • Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979, not worth watching)
      • Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
      • Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984)
      • Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986)
    • Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994)
      • Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989, not worth watching)
      • Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991)
    • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993-1999)
      • Star Trek VII: Generations (1994)
    • Star Trek: Voyager (1995-2001)
      • Star Trek VIII: First Contact (1996)
      • Star Trek IX: Insurrection (1998)
    • Star Trek: Enterprise (2001-2005)
      • Star Trek X: Nemesis (2002)
      • Star Trek (2009)
      • Star Trek: Into Darkness (2013)
    There are also some TOS and TNG movies after each respective series ended. If I were you, I would watch the second TNG movie First Contact, which is a time travel movie revolving around the discovery of warp drive and interstellar space-travel in 2063 and setting the stage for Star Trek, and then I would try watching the series in either one of those orders.

    Note: Some people who start watching Star Trek end up not appreciating The Original Series and skip all but the most notable episodes of it.

    Enterprise does not take place in an alternate timeline. The alternate futures shown in Enterprise are the alternate timelines. The timeline of Enterprise is the prime timeline in which the following series take place.
     
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    Take it slow and enjoy it. The original series has a lot of charm and quality to it. Begin with both TOS and The Next Generation. TOS episodes don't have to be watched in order, although they really should. TNG on the other hand, should be watched in order. TNG and Deep Space Nine were a highly respected platform with very high production value that allowed the actors, writers, directors and guest directors and fans to explore different genres such as action, suspense, drama, comedy, detective mystery, spy thriller, homage and classic trek with the familiar Star Trek universe. DS9 premiered half-way through TNG, and canonically at the same period of time as TNG. Personally, I watched TOS and TNG since I was a young child, and although I was aware of DS9 when it premiered on TV, and I had had some glimpses of it, I never watched any of it. This really helped me imagine what life would have been like for the crew of a starship like the Enterprise from TOS, or the Enterprise-D from TNG, and how crew members aboard the Enterprise-D would have been aware of DS9, although they would not have been on DS9. This was important for me because, like a crew member on the Enterprise, what life aboard Deep Space Nine would be like was left mostly up to my imagination. It wasn't until I was a young man that I watched DS9, so there's a significant time gap there, that separated the two for me emotionally. I was then able to imagine what life would have been like, at the same period of time in canon, but for the crew members of Deep Space Nine. Technically, all episodes of TNG and especially(!) DS9 should be watched in order. With DS9, strictly in order. And since DS9 premiered half-way through TNG's run, it would be more interesting to be aware of how that played out for audiences at the time, as there are canon events that affect both shows' story arcs. I strongly recommend you enjoy TNG and DS9 the way I did, by finishing TNG and then starting DS9 later. The TOS films can be watched whenever you feel like it, they are excellent Star Trek. Technically, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock should be seen before Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, but it's not really that important. Star Trek III takes place immediately after Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and they should be watched in that order, however, I strongly recommend against watching them back-to-back as they are not meant to be seen that way. They are each directed by two different people and represent different styles of Star Trek, with STII having the feel of an action movie and STIII having the feel of the original series, with a different pacing that long-time fans are more likely to appreciate. I have recently watched all the TOS movies, and I left out Star Trek V: The Final Frontier because I didn't want to taint the experience - it's reputation is very bad and you may want to avoid it until you are really curious. The TNG movies should be watched in order, after finishing TNG; and, since they premiered while DS9 was still running, could be watched relative to the episode run of DS9 to catch subtle references to canon events between the movies and the DS9 episodes. There's really no need to bother with Voyager or Enterprise at all, they're really not that good. The animated series can be enjoyed for fun whenever you feel like it, it was good! Just don't rush it, because you enjoy Star Trek much more when you become familiar with the canon and comfortable with the fiction, so that the fiction doesn't get in the way of the storytelling and emotional underpinnings of the canon episodes, however, you can also appreciate the art episodes that are more about what you can do when you take a familiar story and add a stylistic twist.​
     
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    • Don't watch Enterprise.
    • Skip Voyager.
    • As heretical as this may sound, you probably don't need to watch Star Trek The Original Series, at least not in its entirety. It was groundbreaking in its time, absolutely, and some of the episodes still hold up tremendously well... unfortunately, many don't. You're probably better off finding the best ones online and avoiding the rest.
    • Skip The Animated Series
    • Watch Star Trek II - IV, VI (These films are made with the cast of The Original Series)
    • Watch Star Trek The Next Generation (Skip Season 1 at all costs. Season 2's a bit iffy still, but a marked improvement nonetheless)
    • Skip Deep Space 9, just watch Babylon 5. In fact, just watch Babylon 5 anyway.
    • Skip the Star Trek TNG films (with maybe the exception of First Contact. It's not a good Star Trek movie, but it's an alright movie on its own)
    • Watch Star Trek 2009
    Alright, that should about cover it. Happy Trekking.
     
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    Personally I'd loved Voyager and Enterprise.
    TOS TAS and TNG are great for nostalgic purposes.
    DS9 I didn't watch to much.

    As for the films.
    All of them are great

    Of Enterprise I really fucking LOVED the Xindi part (season 2 last ep till last ep from Season 4)
    Imho it was one of the best seasons in the whole of Star trek.
     
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    At least he mentioned the original series of movies which had only once been suggested previously.
     
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    Don't listen to Gahars. Enterprise isn't the best, but it's good and worth watching. Voyager and DS9, however, are two of the best series, and they're definitely worth watching. The TNG movies aren't bad either.

    DS9 really picks up at or around the start of the war. I highly recommend you watch it.

    The Xindi stuff was the only thing I didn't like about Enterprise. :P
     
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    Enterprise has about a dozen or show episodes worth watching. Otherwise, the rest is forgettable.

    Voyager and DS9 are definitely worth watching. DS9 picks up especially after the war, and Voyager has quite a few great Borg episodes.

    I would agree with Gahars though that the the first season of TNG is terrible though. As is Star Trek 1 and 5. I would certainly avoid those.
     
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    "Skip as much bad Star Trek as you can find an excuse to" is more like it.

    I love Star Trek, believe me, but I'm not blind to the fact that it's not all gold. As a franchise, it's somewhat schizophrenic - at its best, it's some of the greatest material science fiction has ever had to offer (Take a look at, say, Tapestry). At its worse? Some of the shlockiest, most cringe-inducing stuff put to television (Take your pick - Spock's Brain, Turnabout Intruder, Threshold, A Night In Sickbay, Genesis, etc. etc.).

    If someone is interested in the franchise, why would you recommend they wade through the worst it has to offer? Do you just want to kill their enthusiasm for it?
     
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    Yeah, Start Trek 5 isn't exactly something you'll miss out on. The first movie, though, I have a personal, baseless theory that it shows the origin of the borg.

    but like I said ... completely baseless ...
     
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    I've seen DS9 yes.
    Yes all of the episodes.
    I just didn't got really into it.
    I like the diversity of the cast as in the different races.



    I loved it.
    I've seen it on telie and 3 times on me laptop ;p
    The times I watched it on me laptop I skipped nights just to watch it all lol
     
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    For me The Original Series, the rest is so much more enjoyable that way as you get most references and the history also it's a lot more entertaining and contains less wank. I do admit watching TNG is much better once you've seen all of TOS, just the little hints here and there. If you desire more TOS then sure give the Animated Series ago, it's a lot better than people give it credit for though it's short episodes does mean the stories are rushed. Some episodes are bad...really bad but others are very enjoyable but really only for those who are gay for TOS.

    Then the movies...the even numbered films are the good ones with exception to Nemesis which was horrible. The odd numbered ones are watchable compared to Nemesis, man Nemesis was fucking awful.
    The Next Generation...it's a slog to get through the first series, second gets better and then it gets really good.
    Can't watch Deep Space 9 or Voyager, just bore me to tears. The characters just do nothing for me, TNG had some very good characters that kept me watching even through those two dull series.
    Enterprise...it has it good episodes and it's bad.

    All in order I just prefer TOS, just has more heart and I like the characters more. There's probably 5 kind of episodes at most and then they are recycled over and over but I enjoy it nonetheless.
     
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    Whats with all the hate for Enterprise? It ended abruptly and stuff but it was pretty good, season 2 and 3 were actually pretty damn awesome. I agree that you can skip a lot of ToS, a lot of episodes have aged badly. Other than that I don't think its worth skipping any of the films, none are more than two hours long so its not exactly a huge investment of time just to watch them.

    Dude... mind fucking blown. :O
     
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    The Star Trek reboot did reference some things from the movies that featured the original cast, so I'd watch those first. The even numbered ones are regarded better than the odd numbered ones, so don't be disheartened if you find them hard going but they are worth watching. Star Trek the motion picture is considered the worst, but it re-establishes the characters and the new Enterprise so that you won't feel like you've missed out by not watching the series.

    I can't recommend watching any of the TV series, I found most of them unwatchable at the time. They are more like soap operas.

    The movies with the next generation cast are more like TV movies, they range from okish to pretty dire.
     
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