What's the different between freeshop and other site cia ?

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  1. kkusagami
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    I have slow internet speed ,so would always end up using torrent site or splits files for downloading.
    My net require 9 hours to download 1gb size of files, so if I using freeshop ,i will need to open my 3ds for so many hours to download a game.
    Due to latest banwave issues ,if i download through freeshop for long hours ,will i be getting ban? My n3dsxl is a newly purchased last week comes with firmware 11.2.

    I haven't started to mod my 3ds yet,but i plan to follow that guide soon.
    Could someone enlighten me what should i do to get the cia games from ?
    Is RF cia a legit cia or illegit cia?

    Thank you in advance.
     
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    Simply use Wii U USB helper on your PC to download games from Nintendo's servers. That way they won't log you using homebrew (Freeshop) while being online on your 3DS and the download speed will be faster.
     
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    Thank you ,it tooks me 2 days time to figure out how to use that helper ,and the thing is the title database doesn't has much game titles that i wanted to get ,so i decided to take another route which is other iso sites.
     
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    You won't be banned for having wifi on for too long on your 3DS, that's just plain stupid.
    I still play online with mine all the time and no ban.

    But anyways, I used to have a pretty slow connection too, around 6 hours for 1gb and still used FreeShop.
    There's no real problem with leaving your 3DS on overnight plugged in.
     
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    Wait what? Does Wii U USB helper also pack it as cia?
     
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    Hard to believe since it rarely lacked a game I searched for (mainly brand new games) but I'm glad you found what you were looking for! :)
    Yup, just hit the "Pack to CIA" box while it's downloading. It's in the "actions to perform once downloading finished" section.
     
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    Region free = modded = nonlegit
    (unless of course the game was originally region free, this is true of all N3DS SNES virtual consoles, the mainline Pokemon games, and some more others - in general I personally avoid cias from forums because you never know if or how they're been edited, I always download direct from Nintendo whenever possible)

    All tickets generated with titlekeys (thus Freeshop, Ciangel, Funkeycia, 3DSeStuff...) are also guaranteed to be nonlegit, as we can't sign tickets

    The only legit titles are:
    System titles (for all consoles)
    Preinstalled digital games on bundle-console (for all consoles)
    eShop purchases, including game updates and DLC (for your console)
    100% or trimmed, but unedited, gamecard dumps (obviously for all consoles)
    (Converting between cia<>3ds removes legitness)
    (Wii U is a different beast)
    (Legitness doesn't really matter if you have CFW)
     
  8. kkusagami
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    So do you mean that playing with Gateway3DS is the best thing for selfdump 3dz?
    I have selfdump my Pokemon Moon and then converted into .cia ,so it has becoming nonlegit,right?
    I don't quite get your meaning of " Wii U is a different beast " and " Legitness doesn't really matter if you have CFW " .

    My firmware couldn't support Gateway,and is that possible for me to downgrade it to 9.2?
    If the downgrade possible, could you link me the steps of how to do that?

    Lastly thank you for explaining things to me,I am very appreciated.

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    Okay,thank you for clarification. But it is still sucks to download something big size, i prefer getting it with torrent sites.
     
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    Godmode9, Decrypt9, Gateway launcher can all create legit .3ds dumps

    Correct, converting cia to 3ds, or 3ds to cia, always results in a nonlegit title

    If we consider 3ds as "backup of physical game" and cia as "installer for a digital game", on a Wii U you can indeed convert a physical game to digital and have it still be legit, not on a 3DS because one part of the file must be edited

    To install (legit) titles all you need is an arm11 exploit, to run a CFW, which enables you to install and run nonlegit titles (or install a9lh/sighax via software) you must have an arm9 exploit which is "more powerful"
    Therefore, legit cias were of interest to those people on versions with an arm11 but not an arm9 exploit available, while legit .3ds were of interest to Sky3DS users
    Now that any version, past present or future, can be hacked with sighax, there's no practical advantage to legit titles anymore (except of course preservation interest and perfectionism)


    If you really wanted to downgrade, 11.2 has an arm9 exploit available, so it's possible to run arm9 homebrews like Godmode9 or Decrypt9, and use them to flash a ctrtransfer image containing the 9.2 operating system

    But exactly since there's an arm9 exploit, 9.2 isn't any more powerful, hacking wise, than 11.2

    And honestly, unless you are interested in cheats, I would just avoid Gateway - it has many disadvantages (many of them can be blamed on doing the barely minimum effort to make their card work) which force you to use less than ideal solutions (emunand), not update to 11.3+, and miss out on many features found in other CFWs (one of the missing features could potentially damage your console or at least your mod if you update it)
     
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    Thank you so much for all the explanations, @Ryccardo .
    Now that i have boot9strap,luma 8.0 ,11.4 sysnand, how do I create emunand without Gateway? and can I revert to original firmware of 11.2 anymore?
     
  11. Ryccardo

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    Using the "format SD card" feature of Godmode9
    Note that an emunand, while required to safely use Gateway, is a handicap (replacing SD card is more complicated, you can't remove it with the power on, wasted space, can't run DS/DSi/GBA games from emunand)

    If you created a nand backup first (which I'm not sure if the 3ds.guide still recommends)
    There are other ways to go back to 11.2 but they're not as clean
     
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    I have Gateway3DS leftover for some time ago,I haven't touch any 3ds since my o3ds broken a year ago.
    So even if gateway3ds support 11.4 ,i still cant even use the redcard to setup gateway,right? because my sysnand is 11.4.

    the 3ds,guide indeed saying to backup nand ,and i did follow everything there,but the backup nand section was only after updated to 11.4.
    So it is still possible to revert back to 11.2 without hardmod?
     
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    Don't confuse "support" = being able to start on this version, with "support" = being able to run this version

    The first definition is, for any CFW, "11.2 on an unmodded console, any version if you already have A9LH or Sighax/B9S"
    The second one depends on the CFW, and Gateway can only run 11.2 or lower

    Hardmod or not doesn't matter

    But since you only have an 11.4 nand backup, you would need to find an 11.2 ctrtransfer image (which may or may not publicly exist) and flash it with Decrypt9/Godmode9
    or a full 11.2 cia set (again, not guaranteed to exist, it's too late to legally download one direct from Nintendo) and install it with a CFW that patches the minimum version check (Luma had it in the past, not sure if it still does but probably yes)
     
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    Your explanations are very good,I think I have understand what you are saying for now, and one last question to ask from you.
    If I edited my 3ds usa keyboard to japanese keyboard, will it possible be flagged by nintendo if going online?
     
  15. Ryccardo

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    Nobody except Nintendo can answer this question with facts, because we don't know what is actually sent in the analytics, and even if we did we can't know what criteria Nintendo used to ban

    My personal experience is no ban on 2 consoles with analytics enabled and many custom titles (both edited keyboards and actual new unofficial apps)
     
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    Okay,thank you so much for your time and efforts. Thanks again,I serve you a bowl of Ginger + sweet potatoes soup for you.


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