What sources back up the anti-vaccine movement?

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remember biden's vaxx target of like 70% of the US by independence day? you need to remember some of these "anti vaxxers" are just butt hurt Trump supporters,they'l still get their flu vaccine in the winter they just want to be defiant bitches (whom i don't care get sick and die from covid not getting any sympathy from me no one bit they all can become worm chow and the US would be a better place)


Theres quite a bit of "anti-vax" sentiment in black and Latino communities, too. Just check some stats on the demographic percentages of unvaccinated persons in major cities. (only 28% of black 18-44 yr olds in NYC, for example. Don't try to tell me they don't have the opportunity.) I personally think everyone should get the shots, but I'm not inclined to judge those resisting it particularly along political lines, because there's plenty of ignorance to go around.

"If Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I'm not taking it." -- Kamala Harris
 
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"If Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I'm not taking it." -- Kamala Harris
at least quote the Completely statement as miss-quoting is a disservice to you..

"If the public-health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it — absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I'm not taking it."

Remember this was just right after Trump wanted to use the Power of the Sun and Injecting Disinfectant in people .. so yea.. People were not trusting anything Trump recommended
 

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This woman is/was pro-vaccine but her and her daughter got screwed up after being vaxxed.

That's a weak anecdote.

The same person could be harmed 100x worse by getting covid without the vaccine first.

People also get sick like that every day totally unrelated to vaccines.

Zero proof or relevance her issues are caused by the vaccine.
 

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I do want to state that my questions are not directed at anyone with medical conditions preventing them from being vaccinated. I have an immune disorder (possibly Lupus, still trying to figure it out,) I understand the struggle and concern when it comes to vaccines. My questions are directed at those who are against vaccines in general. Anecdotal reports are not evidence. I am only looking for research that is backed and verifiable through the peer-reviewed process.
 
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I do want to state that my questions are not directed at anyone with medical conditions preventing them from being vaccinated. I have an immune disorder (possibly Lupus, still trying to figure it out,) I understand the struggle and concern when it comes to vaccines. My questions are directed at those who are against vaccines in general. Anecdotal reports are not evidence. I am only looking for research that is backed and verifiable through the peer-reviewed process.
You mean Nikki Minaj cousin’s friend in Hati is not evidence?? what bout my barber’s Neighbor’s sister’s dog walkers became Magento after the jab? That count?
 

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You mean Nikki Minaj cousin’s friend in Hati is not evidence?? what bout my barber’s Neighbor’s sister’s dog walkers became Magento after the jab? That count?
If I can’t quote my alters, people can’t quote their dog walker of that one person
 
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The biggest oportuninty may came from vaccine production technology. All vaccines needed tests with fetal cell lines taken from aborted babies. It's sound like satanic to me. This is damn really hard to accept.
 

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The biggest oportuninty may came from vaccine production technology. All vaccines needed tests with fetal cell lines taken from aborted babies. It's sound like satanic to me. This is damn really hard to accept.
Do not know what religion you are but in most case the MRNA Tech is so Far removed from "stem cells" that many major religions have already stated its Moral acceptable to take. As MRNA uses no Stem Cells in direct testing ( but uses Knowledge from older testing).
The Vatican’s doctrinal office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), has determined that it is “morally acceptable” for Catholics to take these vaccines against the COVID-19 Virus.
It would be like "refusing to wear a Polyester lined Jacket because it reminds you of a feather lined jacket"

The Church has also stated that J&J vaccine is "acceptable" if no MRNA is available as the Current Benefits would outweigh the history..
So Get the Vaccine, its Jesus Approved
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P.S. you know know like 90% of modern Medical Knowledge has been done by experimenting with Dead Bodies right?.. From your Heart bypass, to artificial hips. ?
 
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It's not as bad as you might think. These cells are reproduced cells. Not from recent abortions. The commonly used cells apparently date back decades and came from woman who actually wanted abortion. Since then they keep reproducing these same cells for tests and for vaccine production.
 

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It's not so good as it sounds, all vaccine even mRna (Pfizer, Moderna) also used that cells in the lab phase of testing for comfirmation, Pfizer used line HEK-293. Sure it was in developed in 1972, but the lines are aging and new lines are still appearing, the last one developed in China in 2015. I don't want to support that method at any way, I have right for it, and I'll never accept it.
 

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It's not so good as it sounds, all vaccine even mRna (Pfizer, Moderna) also used that cells in the lab phase of testing for comfirmation, Pfizer used line HEK-293. Sure it was in developed in 1972, but the lines are aging and new lines are still appearing, the last one developed in China in 2015. I don't want to support that method at any way, I have right for it, and I'll never accept it.
Then make sure you never accept most Medical treatments and medicine ..Otherwise people might think your a hypocrite.. accepting life saving treatment created by dead tissue and bodies. (which is everything!).. well that if your argument is not solely based on Political affiliations.

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Since I work from home, and don't really leave the house--I've gone out shopping maybe a dozen or so times since COVID began, I went along with my anti-vax parents demands to not get the vaccine if only because I didn't want to cause drama with them.

At this point though, I decided that I'd like to be able to go outside those few times I do without fearing getting sick. I asked my mom to provide a single bit of science or proof that I shouldn't get the vaccine. One article from a non-sketchy site. She couldn't, neither could my dad.

...so I got the vaccine yesterday. Simple as that. I'm sure some people have legitimate sources (from their POV) and uneasiness about the vaccine, but I think, for the most part, many anti-vax people are against it because of fear of the unknown, or baseless speculation.
 

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Then make sure you never accept most Medical treatments and medicine ..Otherwise people might think your a hypocrite.. accepting life saving treatment created by dead tissue and bodies. (which is everything!).. well that if your argument is not solely based on Political affiliations.
Not dead but living, cells are taken from kidney in agonal state.
 

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Since I work from home, and don't really leave the house--I've gone out shopping maybe a dozen or so times since COVID began, I went along with my anti-vax parents demands to not get the vaccine if only because I didn't want to cause drama with them.

At this point though, I decided that I'd like to be able to go outside those few times I do without fearing getting sick. I asked my mom to provide a single bit of science or proof that I shouldn't get the vaccine. One article from a non-sketchy site. She couldn't, neither could my dad.

...so I got the vaccine yesterday. Simple as that. I'm sure some people have legitimate sources (from their POV) and uneasiness about the vaccine, but I think, for the most part, many anti-vax people are against it because of fear of the unknown, or baseless speculation.
Bless you!, Now I don't mind you as Chief Editor... lol JP

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Not dead but living, cells are taken from kidney in agonal state.
cool Thanks for clearing that up... Dead babies OK! Lab produced Cell BAD... MORALS!
 
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djpannda said:
cool Thanks for clearing that up... Dead babies OK! Lab produced Cell BAD... MORALS!
who said that is ok, It's not ok at all. that's the main reason, every abortion is bad, even if it can "save" thousand of lives(like there's no other way wich i don't believe, or they don't try to find it because of fuc*in up thinking like that), and noone have right to decide if anyone can born or not, doctors, mothers, noone. That's most disgusting bestiality in this sick world.
 
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