Hacking Question What is the point of not updating to 5.0.x ?

[Kubas_inko]

Just noticed you edited your post. Yes it was their goal but thats no longer the case

Because you said was, so I continue where we left.
I edited it just for it to make sense on its own.

 

[Xandroz]

I don't have to.
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im guessing they are polishing it now.
has been around 3-4 days on github and everything is calm there.

 

[coned_miro]

Ok...

Lower firmware (under 5.0.2 or any 5.x.x) = possible chance of homebrew/backup loading without using a jig/RCM/dongle. No method released yet.

Higher firmware - 5.x.x = jig required. No exploit currently released.

That's it.

If you aren't bothered about using a jig every coldboot then update. Bear in mind that you will be locked out of installing permanent firmware hacks for now. But you will always be able to get homebrew via jig.

I was on 3.0.2... it had no love from Hekate etc... Wanted to play with homebrew so I updated.

You cannot downgrade at this point. So you are not losing anything apart from maybe the ability to run homebrew without the jig.

3.0.2 got hekate love via CTCaer's mod yesterday

https://gbatemp.net/threads/rcm-payload-hekate-ctcaer-mod.502604/

 

[rac]

Why update and be unable to downgrade when I can just continue to wait and see what is best

 

[annson24]

Here's what SciresM said. Maybe this will enlighten you a bit OP.

 

[Paulsar99]

Still on 4.1.0 and I'm just waiting for atmosphere before making a decision to update, but right now I'm really tempted to update just for the street fighter 30th anniversary collection.

 

[annson24]

Still on 4.1.0 and I'm just waiting for atmosphere before making a decision to update, but right now I'm really tempted to update just for the street fighter 30th anniversary collection.

I was also on 4.1.0 but I updated mine a few days ago for BotW's expansion pass.

 

[Huntereb]

As long as you have a device with an exploitable bootloader, you're all set. Do what you want with it. If you want a coldboot, your best bet is waiting for a modchip.

 

[Maximilious]

Everyone is worried about the SDXC driver, but there are two tutorials here showing that it can be installed without going online. If you're on 3.0.0 already, what's the rush at this point?

 

[Raverrevolution]

Still on 4.1.0 and I'm just waiting for atmosphere before making a decision to update, but right now I'm really tempted to update just for the street fighter 30th anniversary collection.

UGH, SAAAAAAAME exact thing here. 4.1.0 and Street Fighter will be at my door this afternoon.

I bet you this is the kind of situation that updating is okay. These devs are geniuses with this console. Sooner or later I bet they'll be like, "Do not update past 5.0.2, you'll need it for the SDXC upgrade otherwise atmosphere won't work"

 

[Jackson98]

From what I had understood, the odds of getting a true coldboot on anything above 1.0 was insanely low. Even on 1.0 in the future nothing is gauranteed. For me the pros definitely don't outweigh the cons, especially since I'm more than happy leaving my switch asleep 95% of the time. I suppose If I had a second switch I might consider it , otherwise for me personally I think their is very little to gain.

 

[Paulsar99]

UGH, SAAAAAAAME exact thing here. 4.1.0 and Street Fighter will be at my door this afternoon.

I bet you this is the kind of situation that updating is okay. These devs are geniuses with this console. Sooner or later I bet they'll be like, "Do not update past 5.0.2, you'll need it for the SDXC upgrade otherwise atmosphere won't work"

Well I bought the ps4 ver since it's a bit cheaper and it has a ultra street fighter 4 code. I'll just get the switch version after atmosphere comes out.

 

[Draxzelex]

June is around the corner and that means Atmosphere is almost here as well. With EmuNAND support, you will be able to update eventually anyways so what's the harm of waiting a little big longer? Only reason I see is if you cannot wait to play a game or DLC that requires being on the latest firmware, which is also acceptable, as long as you are aware of what you may be potentially losing. Remember when everyone thought 3.0 was the golden firmware? Things can change and the lower your firmware, the more chances you have at getting an exploit.

 

[Nincompoopdo]

I don't have to.
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Was the date chosen on purpose? It's the same release date as SX Pro. E3 ends on 14th June, so all the hacks are breaking out right after E3!

 

[Draxzelex]

Was the date chosen on purpose? It's the same release date as SX Pro. E3 ends on 14th June, so all the hacks are breaking out right after E3!

Here is how the date June 15th was chosen.

Oh. I didn't even think about the fact that promising a summer release date could kind-of-align things with E3. =\

That's a bit embarrasing. I'm really not all that into playing games myself, and so I didn't actually think about when events like E3 occur: I just picked an imprecise description of around when the disclosure window ends, with the goal being not to tie things to any specific day. I'd prefer to avoid things interacting with the E3 hype; but I think that with this it probably makes sense not to artifcially delay anything and just to release as soon as we can, even if E3's a thing.

Also, its the same date as the release of the TX Pro because TX purposely chose it to line up with Atmosphere. Why? Maybe to rub some salt, taunt ReSwitched's release of Atmosphere, or squeeze out as much life as possible for a modchip that that has a free alternative that will eventually do everything it can.

 

[horokeusama]

As people already stated on this thread, if you stay below or on 4.1.0, you'll have emuNAND without the need of a jig.
You waited until now, it won't hurt to wait Atmosphere release, the "jigless" process will probably come faster than you think, hackers just need the actual CFW to work on it.
Go play something else or buy physical games until late june.

 

[Red1Reaper]

Guys guys, what do you say about the SDXC exFAT update?
That is bullshit, is posible to install the SDXC exFAT driver whitout updating right now, and there are two tutorials in the tutorial section for it.

If your dont want to search here are the links:
this tutorial and this tutorial

 

[the_randomizer]

Just noticed you edited your post. Yes it was their goal but thats no longer the case

Why am I not surprised? Never should have announced a date, just gets people unnecessarily hopeful, so expect another six month delay at least, I'm sure

 

[reminon]

I bet you this is the kind of situation that updating is okay. These devs are geniuses with this console. Sooner or later I bet they'll be like, "Do not update past 5.0.2, you'll need it for the SDXC upgrade otherwise atmosphere won't work"

How would this scenario work? The SDXC patch can already be manually applied. All that's required is: a nand backup "easy", an xci backup of a game with your current firmware, some keys "easy to get", and some public tools that can easily be found here. If you dump your nand, minus the user partition, its quick, painless, and even a noob could follow the multiple tutorials already posted here.

Why give up deja vu, just to be forced to use hardware-assisted methods. This makes no sense to me.

Everyone is clamoring over TX's dongle, but why pay if you are on a low enough firmware to use a free option? And for the piracy advocates, it would be stupid to assume that atmosphere will not attain the ability to run backups. It's open-source, and will become much more than sx os, without all of the DRM bullshit.

 

[kamesenin888]

How would this scenario work? The SDXC patch can already be manually applied. All that's required is: a nand backup "easy", an xci backup of a game with your current firmware, some keys "easy to get", and some public tools that can easily be found here. If you dump your nand, minus the user partition, its quick, painless, and even a noob could follow the multiple tutorials already posted here.

Why give up deja vu, just to be forced to use hardware-assisted methods. This makes no sense to me.

Everyone is clamoring over TX's dongle, but why pay if you are on a low enough firmware to use a free option? And for the piracy advocates, it would be stupid to assume that atmosphere will not attain the ability to run backups. It's open-source, and will become much more than sx os, without all of the DRM bullshit.

sometime in the future, it could be a year or so, devs hate piracy, tx dont, so thats why people pay a lot of money!!!(40 dollars lol)