Gaming What Is Illigal About These 'Mons?

[StarOfDoom]

Hey guys!

First! Sorry if there is like, a specific Pokémon section or something, didn't see it, and I figured this was the next best place.

So, I used PKHeX to try to get a few Pokémon for Competitive Battle (might eventually actually get legit 'mons, just want to start and see if I like battling competitively before I spend days farming for a good 'mon ) Anyway, I made a team (probably crap, oh well) and I put it in, and for whatever reason, when I try to enter the Battle Spot (Doing free battles, so there are no restrictions on what Pokémon can enter) with a specific 3 of the 6 of them (the other 3 work perfect, just happens if any of the 3 "broken" ones are in the battle box) it just says, "There is a problem with your participating Pokémon." As far as I know, I went back and checked all 3 'mons and they all seem quite legit. Could someone go ahead and take a look at a few of these screenshots and tell me if there is anything blatantly obvious that I am missing that would not allow these guys to go onto the Battle Spot? Thanks.

Hydreigon

Slowking

Entei

 

[loco365]

Hydreigon: How is it met at Cave of Origin? I don't think it can be caught there, nor can its pre-evos.
Slowking: Perhaps the stats? I can't see it right away.
Entei: Again, not Cave of Origin. It's met in some forest.

 

[StarOfDoom]

Hydreigon: How is it met at Cave of Origin? I don't think it can be caught there, nor can its pre-evos.
Slowking: Perhaps the stats? I can't see it right away.
Entei: Again, not Cave of Origin. It's met in some forest.

Good points, changed Hydration to original meeting place "Meteor Falls" (Where you can find it's first Evo, Deino) and changed Entei to "Trackless Forest" (Where you get them) but still, neither are functional. :/ Any more help?

 

[Leslie White]

- Hydreigon can't learn "Stealth rock".

- Slowking can't learn "Stone Edge".

- Entei can only be caught in the Trackless Forest at level 50, not 45.

That's just what I see at the first look.

And I might be wrong but I don't think Entei can learn "extreme speed", I think it can through a 4th gen event but as I said, I might be wrong

 

[StarOfDoom]

- Hydreigon can't learn "Stealth rock".

- Slowking can't learn "Stone Edge".

- Entei can only be caught in the Trackless Forest at level 50, not 45.

That's just what I see at the first look.

And I might be wrong but I don't think Entei can learn "extreme speed", I think it can through a 4th gen event but as I said, I might be wrong

Tysvm, my friend and I were just going based off of what Pokémon Showdown was allowing... which is obviously wrong for some things... haha.

 

[DDTarZan]

Entei cant learn Sacred Fire either. That's a Ho-oh-only move. And I'm not sure about Extremespeed. Think its only for special event Enteis, like the shiny one in gen 5 iirc.

As for Slowking, I think scald is an egg move so you might wanna double check that, could be a tutor move tho. Also, I know mirage spot wild pokemon are found at higher levels than 21. More like in the 30's range.

And also if you really wanted to have a Cave of Origin originating Hydreigon, you could tap in the proper egg hatched details. Because then, 31 IVs across the board would make way more sense. I've never heard of 6 IV mons caught in the wild, the odds on that would be wicked.

 

[gudenau]

You cpuld also check bulbapedia for legal moves and locations.

 

[Osha]

Entei cant learn Sacred Fire either. That's a Ho-oh-only move. And I'm not sure about Extremespeed. Think its only for special event Enteis, like the shiny one in gen 5 iirc.

As for Slowking, I think scald is an egg move so you might wanna double check that, could be a tutor move tho. Also, I know mirage spot wild pokemon are found at higher levels than 21. More like in the 30's range.

And also if you really wanted to have a Cave of Origin originating Hydreigon, you could tap in the proper egg hatched details. Because then, 31 IVs across the board would make way more sense. I've never heard of 6 IV mons caught in the wild, the odds on that would be wicked.

Wouldn't be that far fetched nowadays, with how broken the Navi Dex is.

 

[StarOfDoom]

Wouldn't be that far fetched nowadays, with how broken the Navi Dex is.

Ha! I get it...

 

[Queno138]

Could someone go ahead and take a look at a few of these screenshots and tell me if there is anything blatantly obvious that I am missing that would not allow these guys to go onto the Battle Spot? Thanks.

Creators of Pkhex wouldn't want you to do that, but oh wells..

Results from my Analysis:

Hydra:
1. How is it a hydreigon, at level 50? Evolves from Zweilous at 64
2. Cannot be met at Cave of Origin.
3. Cannot know Stealth Rock

Slowking
1. Cannot learn Stone Edge

Entei:
1. Wrong location and level
2. Entei captured in ORAS cannot have extremespeed
3. This entei cannot have flare blitz
(to fix this, simply use the Gen IV Shiny Entei, then give it Sacred Fire and Stone Edge)
(edit: from what I can see, in ORAS, sacred fire is now a move relearner move)


Note:
If your OT TID and SID of your In game character isn't the same as the 3 pokemon above,
you should probably give them "Memories",
as well as set yourself as the "Latest (NOT OT) Handler"

Also, I believe it should be alright to use Level 100 Pokemon; wouldn't battle spot lower it to lv 50 temporarily only for the battle?

edit:
Navidex only allows max of 3 31 IVs.
Remaining IVs are purely by RNGod's blessings..

 

[Leslie White]

Tysvm, my friend and I were just going based off of what Pokémon Showdown was allowing... which is obviously wrong for some things... haha.

Showdown or Smogon aren't wrong, it's just the pokémon movesets aren't th gen based only ... ^^ but it can be confusing if you don't know all exclusives moves per gen and so on ^^

 

[DJPlace]

someone does not know how to pokegen...

 

[StarOfDoom]

someone does not know how to pokegen...

Why are you always going around on my threads saying shit? I'm new to Pokegenning. You are right. That is WHY I AM ASKING, everyone fucking starts somewhere, you didn't know everything when you started, and i'm asking for help, so please just stop.

 

[SuzieJoeBob]

I will not restate everything said prior to me, but for Slowking, the "met level" has to be from 36 to 38.

http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/hoenn/miragecave.shtml

 

[Leslie White]

And little advice: to avoid "met locations" issues, just gen your pokes as they were breed (as eggs, met level 1, given by the day care couple...) much easier...

And although it's not the problem, wild encounter pokémon can't have perfect 5/6 31IVs... (you can edit them to have perfect IV and they will be online playable, but if you want them to look legit, it's better to gen them as eggs)...

 

[migles]

Tysvm, my friend and I were just going based off of what Pokémon Showdown was allowing... which is obviously wrong for some things... haha.

the best place IMHO opinion to see is one of theese websites, see which one you like more..

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Slowking_(Pokémon)
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/199/all
http://serebii.net/pokedex-xy/199.shtml

i preefer bulbapedia... i dont like serebii layout, and sometimes psypokes is easier to check some stuff...

 

[Leslie White]

And extreme speed Entei can only be found through a 4th gen event, in which is can only be of adamant nature and shiny !

 

[DJPlace]

Why are you always going around on my threads saying shit? I'm new to Pokegenning. You are right. That is WHY I AM ASKING, everyone fucking starts somewhere, you didn't know everything when you started, and i'm asking for help, so please just stop.

do i know you?

 

[StarOfDoom]

do i know you?

You've gone on two of my threads now just posting absolute crap, seeming just to post boost. Just stop. Stating the obvious and being a dick about it helps nobody.

 

[DJPlace]

what threads? (i'm telling the truth i really don't recall) here's a present for you if you want real legit pokemon.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/orkihammtmb26so/tiers.zip?dl=0