What is gateway? And what was it meant for)

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  1. doughmay
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    Hey! So I'm kind of new to the 3DS hacking scene and I came across a thread about gateway. I know it's a flashcart but I want to know what's special about it, and why it's not very popular anymore..

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    EDIT: I read it, seems like there were a few sacrifices and scandals to get to where we are today, I had no idea any of this happened and it's very interesting to me.

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    Gateway is the company that had the first public method of piracy on the 3DS, and the very first 'CFW' (3DS CFW isn't exactly custom firmware, but more like a series of patches that enable piracy.). They were the first to have a few exploits that have become important today, like firmlaunchhax, and memchunkhax, as well as the first ones to have things like an actual implementation of the MSET bug documented by ichtfly, their Spider browser exploit, MSET Downgrading on N3DS and regular downgrading. emuNAND. These were later reverse-engineered and made public by popular members of the scene.

    Stuff like rxTools and Pasta were closely (and loosely) based on Gateway's exploits.

    As of late there's no use in having the cart due to free open source CFW becoming just as capable as them, and people hate them as a company because they bricked companies that tried to clone their work and sell it. This once affected legitimate Gateway owners, but ever since it's made its return, there haven't been any reports of this.

    tl;dr, they were the leaders of the scene for a time with their variety of exploits and later became obsolete after those exploits were reverse engineered and documented to the public. CFW has come far and sort of left Gateway behind, and due to some of the actions made by the company, (extremely long wait for N3DS support, brick code) they have been looked down upon by the community and have become sort of a meme.
     
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    gateway is now used for roms and actual cheat support. if you dont want either of them a gateway is not for you.
     
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    Meme XD. for a short time I was thinking of getting a gateway in May 2016. I decided against it instead waiting for a major hack in the 10.X OFWS. But now with 11.2 all was released, and I now have cfw. Guess I'm glad I didn't buy one.

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    about 7 with copy cards were bricked. personally i believe they deserve it for trying to cheat a company out if its money. noone was bricked with the legitimate card.
     
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    It makes sense tbh.

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    No no there were a couple. Maybe about 3? Gateway offered to fix these people's 3DSes, since they would encrypt your NAND making it unable to restore without a Raspberry Pi. I remember one person who sent his 3DS in and apparently it got 'lost in shipping' lmao. One dropped out of the scene and moved on with their lives. The last one was @gamesquest1 I believe who just fixed his 3DS himself and turned down Gateway's offer. He actually caught one of these bricks on camera
     
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    Won't be long now that with the new hax's available that gateway will make an announcement for 11.2 downgrades. There gonna be all over it soon.
     
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    If they still make people to use emuNAND or won't do FIRM0/1 protection on their A9LH loader, I think less people gonna buy it.
    Someone just screw up cause of this around last week.
     
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    I watched the video.... Dang. Just wow.

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    I just hope gateway team does a guilt-release (a la Cobra 7.00 source on PS3) of the source code for CCI/3DS Rom loading.... There's no way I'll be converting/redownloading my 200 gigabytes of games....
     
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    200 Gigabytes....Is that an exaggeration?! If it isn't....Just....I have no words....
     
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    Yep. But, that's old and totally outdated. What we need is a new way to brick legitimate Gateway users :evil:

    Well it's not their A9LH payload that needs firm protection. It's their CFW itself. It does have firm patches, but they're not really well implemented, so updating on an O3DS that doesn't use emuNAND will remove your hax and updating an N3DS that doesn't use emuNAND will brick. It sucks but they know what to do to fix this :^)

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    Tbh I doubt it :^) You think those guys are gonna give back to the community that completely destroyed their business?
     
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    Hope they fix it soon, althoufh it more easier to reinstall A9LH this day, there always a risk of bricking though.
     
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    Yeah, you read that correct... 3DS roms have a considerably larger file size compared to CIAs (they have firmware updates inside, I believe and) and I never bothered trimming roms because I ran a 128 GB microSD which was ample space.
     
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    OH! That makes sense, I thought they were CIA's and I was like you must have the whole 3ds library. But Roms make more sense
     
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    Cobra Team did it, though and earnt back a lot of the respect they lost from the GIB FREE HAX crew and the scene in general.

    I dont think any piracy device companies scope their business model around their device being the be-all-end-all solution for the entire duration of a consoles hacking scene.

    It's such a volatile and changing market, pretty sure the idea is to just make heaps of cash and then go and retire on a beach in the Bahamas...

    Credit where credit is due though, the scene wouldn't be where it is today without Gateway reverse engineering the original MSET exploit that the 3DBrew crew were sitting on for a whopping 2 years with no plan for a release, ever.

    Yellows8 and Neimod absolutely loved teasing us with their "We hacked it picture" while their co-conspirators were stealing thousands of dollars for the chip recapping fundraiser.....