What happened to most of the developers?

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by 98otiss, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. elhobbs

    elhobbs GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jul 28, 2008
    United States
    And yet it would seem that you think they owe you some thing and should not leave the scene. Why do you feel someone owes it to you to "grow a backbone"? Didn't they effectively "use the block button" and (perhaps from their perspective) "stop associating with shitty people"?
    I am sure the 3ds scene seems less bad when you ignore it completely :)
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  2. TuxSH

    TuxSH GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Oct 19, 2015
    AW didn't leave the 3ds scene, just gbatemp
  3. Lilith Valentine

    Lilith Valentine GBATemp's Wolf-husky™ Panties

    Sep 13, 2009
    At the end of another lost highway
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  4. jimmyj

    jimmyj Official founder of altariaism. Copyright jimmyj

    May 26, 2017
    that is so true unfortunately

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    why did aurora leave gbatemp? that's quite sad
  5. Majickhat55

    Majickhat55 The Red Woman

    Mar 28, 2016
    United States
    That's not what I was implying. I couldn't care less who does what, it's none of my business. I was saying in general, I'm not getting into specific examples. Not sure where you got that I had perceived expectations but okay Lol.
  6. elhobbs

    elhobbs GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jul 28, 2008
    United States
    Mostly this - 'Especially in this "safe place" age we live in most of them honestly just need to grow a backbone.'
  7. TarableCode

    TarableCode GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 2, 2016
    Yes I would like a safe space with beer and corgis to play with.
    I mean, who wouldn't?

    So the solution is to get devs back is corgis and beer.
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  8. CMDreamer

    CMDreamer GBAtemp Fan

    Oct 29, 2014
    I wouldn't call them "children", but if I say that word I might get banned. -_-
  9. aykay55

    aykay55 Professional Idiot

    Apr 14, 2017
    United States
    Wherever there's food. And Nintendo.
    Lol, you just recited the most important verse of the GBATemp Bible ;)
  10. Majickhat55

    Majickhat55 The Red Woman

    Mar 28, 2016
    United States
    Yeah and I meant both ways. Users and devs both need to learn to take anonymous Internet assholes with a grain if salt. They'd all be happier. I don't see where you get that I have some kind of personal agenda. I'm just speaking in general, no one cares that much.

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  11. Stephano

    Stephano I love you Charlie

    Feb 18, 2016
    United States
    An anti-anime bunker
    I never understood why/how the 3DS is so cancerous. I don't know if I just somehow avoid all this drama or people are just rude to others in DMs or something. I know this scene is cancer but I hardly see anything going on. What do y'all see?
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  12. SG6000

    SG6000 GBAtemp Regular

    Nov 2, 2015
    With regards to AW - from what I saw - it seemed like there was a whole load of (mostly completely unwarranted) negativity on here surrounding the release of Boot9strap, Luma's dropping of support for A9LH payloads and the Rosalina system module. Loads of guff about the 'cult' of Luma and 'CFW wars' which honestly should've just stayed in the playground - especially after the smattering of minor bugs got ironed out.
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  13. TimX24968B

    TimX24968B "That guy"

    Oct 28, 2015
    United States
    I thought rinn moved over to wololo.

    I also haven't seen too much of a demand for newer things (but i just occasionally check this forum from time to time now), but it seems like alot of what was accomplished already, people were satisfied with, and didnt really want much more out of their console than to play pirated games or emulators. I'm still trying to find something i want to use my 3ds for, too. On top of this, it seems like due to the switch, 3ds lost a good amount of publicity too thanks to it, but when you put (what seems like) low demand for new development of features combined with all of this, including how late in the 3ds's life cycle it is, it feels like most of the developers that were once here are no longer as active due to not really having much reason to be active, particularly when alot of what people want has already been done and made functional. Yes, there is still much in development, but nothing like it was a year ago.

    So either the scene seems to have stagnated due to low demand coupled with declining interest and motivation by devs (and other reasons as stated above), or im completely delusional from my inactivity and the fact that there arent really any 3ds titles that seem appealing enough to make me want to turn my 3ds on again. I feel like at least some of this is true, but would appreciate more input by someone who has been a bit more active recently.
    Last edited by TimX24968B, Sep 10, 2017
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  14. DarthDub

    DarthDub Amateur Hacker

    Jan 26, 2016
    United States
    Your mom's basement.
    Especially with other cfws lacking support for b9s, yet people blame Luma like it's some evil thing when it's not.
  15. ThisIsDaAccount

    ThisIsDaAccount GBAtemp Maniac

    Apr 8, 2016
    United States
    Just out of curiosity does anyone know why mashers left the scene? I used to really like his gridlauncher and a9lh with password.
  16. Platinum Lucario

    Platinum Lucario GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    May 17, 2014
    Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia
    When I hear about developers leaving, I've always come to realise that the people who start drama, being disrespectful to one another, rudely criticising developers on what they do and being ungrateful for the tools that the developers have made. It makes me sad to think of the developers who made the tools, spent countless hours contributing to the source code and not getting much positive feedback from users, in which would make the developers feel less motivated to work on their projects.

    What it has made me realise... is that I am pretty much responsible for some of the disrespectfulness that I have been giving to some of the developers around here. I've asked for functions without saying anything positive about the tool or even stating about how helpful it is. There have been other people who have said "Add [function] to this tool, I really want it" and "Are you going to make such a feature?" There's been times when I haven't respected the developer's decision on what they wanted to do with their project, just because I disagreed with what the developer was doing. But as time has gone on, I've come to realise that even if I disagree with a decision, I should always say something positive about the project, rather look down on them.

    I can tell you, if there were rules in place on GBATemp that actually prevented users from saying rude comments or begging for features to be added without giving any positive feedback or reporting bugs, then it would more than likely have made me rethink about what I should type in a forum post. It's only now that I've realised that I, along with many other users here on the forum have been responsible for the developers quitting from their projects and leaving the community.

    We are only human after all, I've made plenty of bad decisions before, and I'm still learning every day, right? I'd like to see a community in where we can all get along together and not be starting drama all over the place, and I'm sure GBATemp was always intended to be a very civilised forum.

    As for @erman1337 , he got fed up with all the drama on the forums and everywhere else. The people were always being negative on what he was doing, was what made him decide to quit Themely altogether, and create a closed source version of it, due to the ungrateful people saying negative things of his project.

    As for @TheCruel , he was jailed due to possessing child pornography on his servers. But even if he has committed such crimes, we can't forget about the positives that he has done for the Homebrew community. He was responsible for creating a .3dsx downloader (similar to Wii U App Store) called Brewman, along with the source code of his Brewman server. He was also known for creating freeShop, a Homebrew tool that is offered as an alternative to the Nintendo eShop which enables users to redownload titles that they've already purchased. But now, freeShop is continued to being developed by the Homebrew community.

    As for @Rinnegatamante , this user quit the Homebrew community due to all the drama and negative comments given and complaints. Same thing happened to @Aurora Wright and other users who were hit with so much negativity.

    I must deeply appologise to all the developers that I criticised as well as not providing any positive feedback.

    If anyone wants them back, please... be respectful and give plenty of positive feedback and bug reports. And no rude criticism.

    That's all that needs to be done ^^
    Last edited by Platinum Lucario, Sep 10, 2017
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  17. vinstage

    vinstage sliːpɪhɛd/ (o´ω`o)

    Jan 24, 2017
    United Kingdom
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    Plus most dev's leave because of pressure in releasing early, failing to release on the date they provided (and estimated which tends to refer to inaccuracy) which leads to hate which is uncalled for. Of course, there's also
  18. TimX24968B

    TimX24968B "That guy"

    Oct 28, 2015
    United States
    @vinstage well then again, the 3ds was marketed toward that younger audience, so who can you blame?
  19. phalk

    phalk Handheld Maniac

    Apr 23, 2009
    The 3DS is at the end of it's life.
    This is only natural.
    The only reward that most homebrew developers get is recognition, so most of them won't commit to projects for a system that could just stop being relevant before they finish their work.
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  20. migles

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    he shouldn't had left, but keep the ad fly stuff.
    what's a fucking ad fly link for a good homebrew? it's really something minimal. don't want to click adfly? just donate directly...
    i did enjoyed a bit minecraft, with mods, and that website where you get them, was full of ad fly links all over, kids didn't complained..
    i even donated to my favorite mod back then... and even after donate, never bothered me a ad fly link..

    back to topic....i kinda have my own theory... which i may explain other day...