Hacking What emulators run at full speed on an O3DS?

[03bgood]

If you want retro game emulators that work just use a DSI XL and SupercardDSTwo.

The PSP 2000/3000/Go with CFW is also an option, but the controls always break and the devices feel kind of cheap and ugly to me; Nintendo makes much more rugged consoles.

If you have loads of money, you can always buy an Open Pandora. Best controls I've ever seen outside of Nintendo.

The PSP has shoddy emulation. Sure NES and GBA run fine but everything else runs like shit!
I already used a PSP YEARS ago and I'm not going back. Besides does the Vita run anything better than the PSP?
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then get rid of your 3ds, you can still get a good amount for it (at least $90) if it's in good condition and get something like a PSP, that has GBA, NES, SNES and other emulators on it, and they're all pretty convenient to use, a permanently installed CFW and everything just boot up launch and go

I'm not losing my NES, GB, GBC, GBA (Ambassador), Game Gear, 3D Classics (NES, Arcade, Genesis), eShop, and digital retail games.

 

[dark_samus3]

The PSP has shoddy emulation. Sure NES and GBA run fine but everything else runs like shit!
I already used a PSP YEARS ago and I'm not going back. Besides does the Vita run anything better than the PSP?
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I'm not losing my NES, GB, GBC, GBA (Ambassador), Game Gear, 3D Classics (NES, Arcade, Genesis), eShop, and digital retail games.

*shrug* your problem then

 

[03bgood]

*shrug* your problem then

Why can't anyone give me a reasonable response?

 

[RaMon90]

It seems like only blargsnes works good on o3ds but like you said not all games working. Tried retro snes, unfortunately not even a single game started to work good, many lags.
On gba emu, pokemon run at good fps but laggy sound and sometimes fps drop.
Is someone working on blargsnes? The only version i see is 1.2, did they stop working on it?

 

[03bgood]

It's just bullshit that it's next to impossible to play some SNES and GBA games on an emulator without some technical bullshit getting in the way; on handhelds, you have to deal with firmware updates and what exploit works with what firmware and if you need a game or not to run the exploit, meanwhile on Android phones, you have full working emulators but no way to play them with physical controls. So it's like if the emulator runs slow, it has psychical controls but if it runs at full speed, you have to use the damn touchscreen controls! What kind of fucked up logic is that? How come nobody has released a definitive handheld with physical controls and emulators working a full speed (Up to N64 and PS1, that is). The 3DS kinda use to be like that (well at least we had NES, GB, GBC, and the 10 GBA Ambassador games until Nintendo discontinued the Virtual Console on that platform back in late February) and now, the only way is w/o physical controls on Android phones and that makes the games very unplayable. Only the Pokemon games benefit from lack of physical controls while everything else doesn't. I heard the Nvidia Shield can run almost every emulator at full speed except N64, PS1, and DS but that costs $499!! Nobody is going to pay that outrageous price just to play some 20+ old classic games! Somebody please make a handheld that has access to the Android emulators so we don't have to use these awful touchscreen controls!

 

[ldeveraux]

It's just bullshit that it's next to impossible to play some SNES and GBA games on an emulator without some technical bullshit getting in the way; on handhelds, you have to deal with firmware updates and what exploit works with what firmware and if you need a game or not to run the exploit, meanwhile on Android phones, you have full working emulators but no way to play them with physical controls. So it's like if the emulator runs slow, it has psychical controls but if it runs at full speed, you have to use the damn touchscreen controls! What kind of fucked up logic is that? How come nobody has released a definitive handheld with physical controls and emulators working a full speed (Up to N64 and PS1, that is). The 3DS kinda use to be like that (well at least we had NES, GB, GBC, and the 10 GBA Ambassador games until Nintendo discontinued the Virtual Console on that platform back in late February) and now, the only way is w/o physical controls on Android phones and that makes the games very unplayable. Only the Pokemon games benefit from lack of physical controls while everything else doesn't. I heard the Nvidia Shield can run almost every emulator at full speed except N64, PS1, and DS but that costs $499!! Nobody is going to pay that outrageous price just to play some 20+ old classic games! Somebody please make a handheld that has access to the Android emulators so we don't have to use these awful touchscreen controls!

You should complain instead

 

[StriderVM]

Just buy the JXD-S5800 ang get your emulators itching fixed there....

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I have a regular 3DS and so far only GameYob runs at full speed with Pokemon Yellow (Although the others run fine too like Pokemon Crystal) and I can get BlargSNES to work decent but 70-80% of the ROMs don't work or crash and there's graphical glitches and layer issues in all the games I played and the sound is distorted or stutters. Some effects also don't work (like when you enter a stage in Super Mario World, the stage doesn't do that blurry effect and when entering from a cave or building to the overworld in The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past, the expanding outer circle is green instead of black). I tried FCUMM and it runs at only 70-80% the actual speed of NES games and mGBA ran them VERY SLOW! I was told that you need to buy a N3DS to play these ROMs at full speed but it's $200 and the non-XL model just came out today in NA but again, I don't have $199 to buy a new one and I doubt selling my DSi XL and regular 3DS would give me enough money or even close enough to buy a N3DS. So what do I do. Can anyone give me a list of emulators that run via Ninjhax/TubeHax at full speed? I tried to get CatSFC but there's no "3dsx" file so it wouldn't even show up in the Homebrew launcher. I'm also thinking about a buying a Gateway 3DS card if it allows "Kernel" access on FW9.9.0-26 and if "cia" files can installed on any 3DS above 9.2 (Thanks a lot, Nintendo!), somebody let me know. My phone has NES, SNES, GB/GBC, GBA, and Genesis emulators that work full speed (Even SMRPG and KSS run at full speed) but whenever I try to connect my MOGA Pocket controller, it always fails to connect. I'm getting so fed up on how hard it is to play some classic games on the go with "physical controllers". It's like either the emulators are too damn slow on the 3DS or the it's next to impossible to get "physical controls" working on a phone. I wish Nintendo wasn't so stupid and would give us SNES and/or GBA Virtual Console games for the New 3DS instead of making them exclusive for the Wii U, which is a dying console!

You also have the option of buying a SuperCard DSTWO. It has a built in CPU, and while it's not perfect, it runs many GBA and SNES games fullspeed, plus you can emulate any earlier console near perfectly. Earlier consoles don't make use of the built in CPU though.
It might sound weird that a DS flashcart runs emulators better than a native 3DS app, but the thing is that the SNES/GBA emulators have been heavily optimized for the DSTWO and the earlier ones have been optimized for the DS, most of the emulators for the 3DS don't even support dynarec yet whereas all of the DS ones do.

 

[03bgood]

You also have the option of buying a SuperCard DSTWO. It has a built in CPU, and while it's not perfect, it runs many GBA and SNES games fullspeed, plus you can emulate any earlier console near perfectly. Earlier consoles don't make use of the built in CPU though.
It might sound weird that a DS flashcart runs emulators better than a native 3DS app, but the thing is that the SNES/GBA emulators have been heavily optimized for the DSTWO and the earlier ones have been optimized for the DS, most of the emulators for the 3DS don't even support dynarec yet whereas all of the DS ones do.

Lemme guess, the SNES and GBA emulators have graphical glitches, right? I have one for DSi called DSOnei and it can only run GB/GBC ROMs through GameYob, the NES one is awful and the graphics bleed.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Lemme guess, the SNES and GBA emulators have graphical glitches, right?

Not that I noticed.

 

[03bgood]

Not that I noticed.

So I can run games like Super Mario World, EarthBound, Contra III, ActRaiser, Soul Blazer, Kirby Super Star, Super Mario RPG, Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen, and Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga without any problems at full speed w/o graphical glitches (like layering issues or discolors). Because I'm really at my wit ends right now, I tried to run the "Pool Hall Exploit" but a damn error keeps coming up that says "C1-2858-3" when trying to launch the homebrew app. I did get to install a NES emulator but the ROM folder doesn't show up at all. Why is there so much fucking red-tape when it comes to playing SNES and GBA games on a handheld (with actual controls instead of that touchscreen bullshit on non-handheld consoles) at full speed w/o graphical glitches?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

So I can run games like Super Mario World, EarthBound, Contra III, ActRaiser, Soul Blazer, Kirby Super Star, Super Mario RPG, Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen, and Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga without any problems at full speed w/o graphical glitches (like layering issues or discolors). Because I'm really at my wit ends right now, I tried to run the "Pool Hall Exploit" but a damn error keeps coming up that says "C1-2858-3" when trying to launch the homebrew app. I did get to install a NES emulator but the ROM folder doesn't show up at all. Why is there so much fucking red-tape when it comes to playing SNES and GBA games on a handheld (with actual controls instead of that touchscreen bullshit on non-handheld consoles) at full speed w/o graphical glitches?

Super Mario RPG might have slowdowns because it uses a special chip, but almost every game that doesn't should work fine.

 

[03bgood]

Super Mario RPG might have slowdowns because it uses a special chip, but almost every game that doesn't should work fine.

That's too damn bad because my Android phone runs it fine but I have to use an actual controller called MOGA Pocket and the POS never connects!

 

[The Real Jdbye]

That's too damn bad because my Android phone runs it fine but I have to use an actual controller called MOGA Pocket and the POS never connects!

You need the MOGA Pivot app to connect (or the alternative root app that enables HID mode).
I have one too

 

[Jao Chu]

The 3DS scene hasen't progressed enough to make our beloved console the must own emulation machine, unfortunately for us.

May i recommended OP find a low firmware PS Vita 1000 series that can have TN-V installed on it and use that for the ultimate pocket retro gaming rig (PSV OLED looks way better than PSP screen)

GameKlip + PS3 controller + Android Smartphone isn't a bad alternative either.

 

[TecXero]

That's a bit of a mess of text. Anyway, for emulating on the 3DS, beyond NES and GBC, you'll either want a N3DS or a 3DS on an older (pre-9.3) firmware. Even then, it's a bit early in development for a lot of these emulators and the scene in general. If you want an affordable handheld decent for emulation, I'd recommend a PSP.

The PSP still gets some development attention, the Snes9x port received a few updates not long ago over on Wololo, there's a more modern fork of TempGBA4PSP, and Retroarch has been shaping up nicely for it.

 

[03bgood]

Just got a GBA emulator (tempGBA) running full speed w/o any graphical glitches my on PSP Go! I hope I can get NES, SNES, GB/GBC, and Genesis next.

 

[AtlasFontaine]

Just got a GBA emulator (tempGBA) running full speed w/o any graphical glitches my on PSP Go! I hope I can get NES, SNES, GB/GBC, and Genesis next.

@shinyquagsire23 how do you think that can handle the 3ds a port of TempGBA4PSP for 3ds?

 

[shinyquagsire23]

@shinyquagsire23 how do you think that can handle the 3ds a port of TempGBA4PSP for 3ds?

@Normmatt threw the idea at me a few times to get some of the changes from that over to the 3DS, honestly the o3DS with dynrec probably could use a lot of those changes to get to full-ish speed. Only hard part is that you'd have to port all that MIPS optimisation to ARM.

 

[TecXero]

Just got a GBA emulator (tempGBA) running full speed w/o any graphical glitches my on PSP Go! I hope I can get NES, SNES, GB/GBC, and Genesis next.

That fork is only for mainly problem games. Games that run fine under uo gpSP Kai mod will generally run better under it than TempGBA4PSP. I have both forks on my PSP. The newest version of Snes9x over on Wololo runs great, as long as you aren't trying to play anything that heavily uses the Super FX. Picodrive also runs well if you tinker with it. Masterboy 2.02 also works fine. I haven't mess with Retroarch that much for PSP, but I imagine its cores will be better than their standalone counterparts before long, if they aren't already.