What do you think will be illegal in the future?

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So, people tend to focus on things that are illegal and shouldn't be like drugs etc but what are some things that are acceptable now that you think won't be in the future? I don't necessarily mean things that you personally feel shouldn't be, but things that you are sure won't be.

For example, I think at some point in the future people will look back and wonder why Zoos were ever legal.
 
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my car will be illegal, for sure. I don't even know how still is legal and still is being sold.

On environmental side, It runs on Diesel, weight more than 2 tons and is extremely inefficient. It is noisy as hell

On safety side, it has seat-belts and pretty much nothing else, no air bags, no isofix for toddler seats, no assists whatsoever, nothing. (It has ABS but due to the gigantic tire size, it lock wheels anyway).

You still can buy this thing brand new, but the law shouldn't allow it.
 

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A favourite link at times like this
The coming war on general computation

Psst kid. I will give you ten teraflop hours on my rig. Though more seriously I wonder if history will if not repeat then rhyme when it comes to encryption (we already saw some forays there when various things like telegram started to pick up, if someone actually does a proper service then wait for the fallout on that one).


So yeah as computation gets to have some serious implications, and possibly 3d printing starts getting into serious plastics, metals, ceramics and more by those in the hobbyist/guy in a shed, never mind those playing with serious chemistry on that front. That will probably be attacked. Whether it will be barn door after the horse has bolted, or live on underground I don't know. Whether it will be weapon control or patent holders that go in hard first I don't know either but I imagine both will be present (whether unholy alliance I don't know).
Psst kid my 3d printer does hardened steel and does not have a DRM chip in it.

Anyway outright illegal is harder. Most things end up more restrictive (see what you can and can not drive on tickets from different points in time, and how much harder things get made) but that is usually more of a money spinner than illegal.
It would also depend what sort of government gets in and what their opinions on rights and freedoms are; some kind of crazy environmentalist types, resurgence in old school religious thought (debatable, though they are the only ones breeding at more than replacement rate), ascendancy of the respect my pronouns or have your collar felt set (or their lesser cousins in harms is the absolute worst thing that can happen set therefore my risk tolerance is world of cotton wool)... that could change things radically, and has done when various such things arise in places. The huge variability across what are nominally similar countries (compare the various parts of the UK, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand... for how different that plays out and more are the same genetic stock and shared legal history/philosophy until... I have books older than the splits there).

Curious to see the fate of tobacco. Various places have banned it, all but banned it, had interesting "if you are born after this date then not for you" debates (see Russia for that one). If the various "take this pill and you will stop" gets ironed out more then that will be better still. There is however going to be serious money opposing that one.

Related to the money spinner I am also awaiting the fights between environmental types, consumer rights, health and safety, insurance, basically guilds and more as it pertains to building things; very hard to buy a bit of land and do what you like with it, some places you can't fix your own car on your own driveway, reclaimed timber is tricky to use in buildings right now, own milled timber might need a test to be used in a building, technically speaking I can design and check install of a setup measured in kilovolts on an industrial machine but if one of the bank of plugs behind my monitor goes I am not allowed to replace it, some of the things I am seeing car makers do beyond that... things related to all that will probably be a fun field in the future.
Though on cars then when AI becomes better than humans at driving will it in turn be made illegal for humans to drive outside of maybe a dedicated track?

https://rantsfromtherookery.blogspot.com/2008/02/own-geiger-counter-go-to-jail.html . That was one of New York's... actually it is not even that crazy by New York standards.

Cybernetics and biomodding. "My body, my choice" could get tested here when nerve attachment or brain reading options get better.

On drugs then some have pondered if we get proper notropics (makes you smarter drugs) what will happen then; as it stands some university types have suggested piss testing people for ADD meds. Couple that with "the encyclopaedia is literally part of my brain, can't disable it" from the previous bit.
 

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What do I think will be illegal in the future? Owning things. In the future, you will only be allowed to license things, such as homes, cars, clothes, etc. Ownership of common goods will be illegal, to ensure the big companies will always be able to take your money multiple times for things you used to only pay for once. Oh, and for you to even afford the first payment, you'll have to go into indentured servitude, but that doesn't guarantee you'll afford the 2nd payment, because minimum wage will be illegal too.

Also it will be illegal for you to use any commonly known mythological character from world history, such as Loki, Thor, Odin, etc, because companies will have successfully put a Copyright on the original versions, and not just their implemented versions for their own stories. (The rumor that Disney attempted to do this with the original Norse story/character, Loki, is false, but there's always that chance. Laws have been changing to benefit/protect the corporations more than the customers.)
 
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What do I think will be illegal in the future? Owning things. In the future, you will only be allowed to license things, such as homes, cars, clothes, etc. Ownership of common goods will be illegal, to ensure the big companies will always be able to take your money multiple times for things you used to only pay for once.
I can definitely see this sort of thing as an extension of the "..as a service" model that is currently plaguing us, but I'm not sure it will go as far as being illegal. I do like the dystopian cyberpunk nature of the images that it is conjuring in my mind though.
 
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breathing more than a certain amount per day
no more farting either
paying for sunlight and existing in general
you're not allowed to be in the future :creep:
to be or not to be
 

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Maybe not flying at people's houses or other private property or even a limit on how advanced a drone can be, but an outright banned of drones is too much.

Dystopian ideas aside (I know, kind of subjective), probably a near banned of all gas travel In general.
 

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Driving a car. When cars are a lot better than you to drive, insurance companies and society as whole remove the sleepy meatbag don't do anything with the moving metal object.
 

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Capitalism inshallah
How would you possibly ban trading of things with other people? Not to mention why would you want to? Most of human history, certainly the parts where it got better, tend to be when specialist trades with another specialist and everybody is better off than trying to roll solo.
Unless you mean post scarcity is achieved which is dubious, though everybody living in the matrix, pyschotherapy rewriting minds (you only thought you wanted a solid gold continent to yourself), or 60 people having a Dyson sphere all to themselves such that energy and any element they care to cook up can be made in ridiculous amounts by also making it a massive supercollider and star lifter. Given two of those are probably dystopias; matrix is debatable as it could be a VR utopia, I imagine "whatever mental concept the state deems against their best interests or merely just inconvenient so gets wiped" is not a particularly desirable setup as by extension implanting becomes just as easy too.

Driving a car. When cars are a lot better than you to drive, insurance companies and society as whole remove the sleepy meatbag don't do anything with the moving metal object.

Does it have to be a lot better? Most insurance companies are "exists on fractions of a fraction" creatures, even 10% better (accidents per unit distance maybe, extent of accidents... they probably have any number of metrics and sub metrics to look at) is probably living the dream territory for them.

To go with the as a service thing as well. Cars as a service can probably also increase the value extracted from a vehicle -- if the market for average family car, which represents 99% of all car sales by volume or money, is say $40000 then you have whatever profits from that plus parts and servicing for say the next 7 years (generic parts, salvage, third parties probably eating into that long before then but hey) plus maybe a trade in at some point.
This means you are only going to be able to fit say half of that worth of building into it. If instead your automated fleet of taxis can bear an upfront purchase of $100000 per unit (or more still, I am sure you can also tap/create investment trusts for this) but be raking in the monies essentially 24/7 then that changes the game somewhat more.
If that is the standard, and better than humans, then self ownership becomes hard on multiple fronts (I also imagine insurance companies making offers akin to hypercar for your compact mini car here), and I imagine even the rich types will mostly go in for premium service (fancy car at your door within 15 minutes guaranteed sort of thing).
 

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How would you possibly ban trading of things with other people? Not to mention why would you want to? Most of human history, certainly the parts where it got better, tend to be when specialist trades with another specialist and everybody is better off than trying to roll solo.
Not sure where you got this from. Trade is not unique to Capitalism, it existed long before and will (hopefully if our world is still intact and not destroyed by corporations) exist after Capitalism. All Capitalism did was turn trade into a method of consolidating power for the bourgeoisie, as a means of generating profit instead of meeting actual needs and sustaining society.
Unless you mean post scarcity is achieved which is dubious, though everybody living in the matrix, pyschotherapy rewriting minds (you only thought you wanted a solid gold continent to yourself), or 60 people having a Dyson sphere all to themselves such that energy and any element they care to cook up can be made in ridiculous amounts by also making it a massive supercollider and star lifter. Given two of those are probably dystopias; matrix is debatable as it could be a VR utopia, I imagine "whatever mental concept the state deems against their best interests or merely just inconvenient so gets wiped" is not a particularly desirable setup as by extension implanting becomes just as easy too.
I mean - specifically - post-Capitalism. Whether that be Socialism or Communism or some other yet unknown system of governance.
 
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