Hacking What are their(SX Pro, SX Gear,R4S Dongle, AceNS) differecnes?

[larrypretty]

Can someone tell me their differences? I am willing to pay one of them but not sure which to choose, let's put aside the price.

 

[nero99]

they all do the same thing. sx pro just requires you to have a boot.dat file of the cfw payload you wish to use.

 

[deaknaew]

sx pro is sx gear +license sx os

nothing major difference except how it look

 

[Kubas_inko]

Look and price is the only differemce. Functionality is pretty much the same.

 

[larrypretty]

Look and price is the only differemce. Functionality is pretty much the same.

really? But the Acens seems have the built-in payloads for 3 CFWs

 

[proffk]

SX Pro is a dongle which has the SX payload,license & TX CFW inbedded & you cannot use other payloads.
SX Gear,Atmosphere & R4S Dongle allow the use of other payloads without restrictions & AceNS can hold up to 3 payloads at once changeable with a touch of a button on the dongle.

 

[Insane]

SX Pro is a dongle which has the SX payload,license & TX CFW inbedded & you cannot use other payloads.
SX Gear,Atmosphere & R4S Dongle allow the use of other payloads without restrictions & AceNS can hold up to 3 payloads at once changeable with a touch of a button on the dongle.

That's not quite true. SX Pro has the SX payload loader inside. It supports other payloads via
a) Accessing the boot menu of SX-OS and selecting "other payloads"
b) Using the SX-Gear payload to boot other things
c) Converting other payloads to the boot.dat format and putting them on the SD Card (This is community work though)

But you cannot change the payload of the dongle.

NS-Atmosphere is annoying to program under windows (Their programmer is just not stable) and supports 1 payload, freely programmable.

AceNS and other clones of I believe some community work support up to 6 payloads, with no programming software needed.

In terms of "battery":

TX Dongle has no battery and can boot a couple of times (1-2) without charging. Will hold a charge for days.
NS-Atmosphere has a battery inside, can boot quite often and will hold the charge for weeks.
AceNS and clones will hold the charge for minutes and can boot once if you're lucky.

 

[larrypretty]

That's not quite true. SX Pro has the SX payload loader inside. It supports other payloads via
a) Accessing the boot menu of SX-OS and selecting "other payloads"
b) Using the SX-Gear payload to boot other things
c) Converting other payloads to the boot.dat format and putting them on the SD Card (This is community work though)

But you cannot change the payload of the dongle.

NS-Atmosphere is annoying to program under windows (Their programmer is just not stable) and supports 1 payload, freely programmable.

AceNS and other clones of I believe some community work support up to 6 payloads, with no programming software needed.

In terms of "battery":

TX Dongle has no battery and can boot a couple of times (1-2) without charging. Will hold a charge for days.
NS-Atmosphere has a battery inside, can boot quite often and will hold the charge for weeks.
AceNS and clones will hold the charge for minutes and can boot once if you're lucky.

That's what I need, but you don't mention the r4s dongle?

 

[Insane]

Because I don't own an r4s dongle, just the others... I have no experience with that one. Only thing I know is that you need to convert your firmware to the UF2 format or get it from their website. The first I don't know how to exactly do (allthough I heard it is a standart process) and the second one I really don't want to do, since I believe they just should release their tools / create a manual for doing the steps myself. If I am booting other payloads, let me convert them to whatever release or nightly I currently want to use.

 

[proffk]

Thanks for correcting me I almost forgot SX Pro supports other payloads via inbuilt launcher.

 

[Kubas_inko]

really? But the Acens seems have the built-in payloads for 3 CFWs

But it will give you still the same result. It will boot you to CFW with click of a button or just push of the dongle.

 

[thorasgar]

If you are willing to wait a bit Dragon Injector looks very promising. Still under development but getting close. Jig and dongle fit in game card slot for storage.

DragonInjector - Game Cart Payload Injector (Trinket M0 Clone)

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Can someone tell me their differences? I am willing to pay one of them but not sure which to choose, let's put aside the price.

One that hasn't been mentioned here is RCMloader, it seems to be the cheapest, about the same functionality as everything else so not a bad option to go for. I think it supports multiple built in payloads as well.

 

[Insane]

One that hasn't been mentioned here is RCMloader, it seems to be the cheapest, about the same functionality as everything else so not a bad option to go for. I think it supports multiple built in payloads as well.

RCMLoader is an AceNS clone or vise versa or I dunno

 

[bundat]

The primary thing you need to know are THE DONGLES TO AVOID.

• Lightblue chinese dongle: stuck with only Hekate 3.2 payload. WORST dongle

• RCMLoader/XKit/AceNS: CANNOT HOLD A CHARGE. Even after charging to "full", it will lose its charge in less than an hour, and be completely dead. Trash capacitors. An AutoRCM Switch tht has crashed CANNOT recharge it.

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Anyway, other than those dongles, everything else is usable as is and works fine.

- SX Gear/Pro - uses capacitors, charges in 5-10 seconds, good for a few injects. Retains the charge for a week or two. Stuck with only the SX payload (but the SX bootmenu can chainload any other payload)

SX Pro has one SX OS license built in, SX Gear has none.

- NS Atmosphere and R4S both have batteries, so won't suddenly die on you.

NS Atmosphere uses its own flashing software to change payloads (but its a bit buggy supposedly)

R4S uses uf2 files.

One that hasn't been mentioned here is RCMloader, it seems to be the cheapest, about the same functionality as everything else

Nope. It doesn't have the basic functionality of HOLDING A CHARGE. It's useless for AutoRCM users on the go. You have to charge it EVERYTIME you have to use it.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

The primary thing you need to know are THE DONGLES TO AVOID.

• Lightblue chinese dongle: stuck with only Hekate 3.2 payload. WORST dongle

• RCMLoader/XKit/AceNS: CANNOT HOLD A CHARGE. Even after charging to "full", it will lose its charge in less than an hour, and be completely dead. Trash capacitors. An AutoRCM Switch tht has crashed CANNOT recharge it.

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Anyway, other than those dongles, everything else is usable as is and works fine.

- SX Gear/Pro - uses capacitors, charges in 5-10 seconds, good for a few injects. Retains the charge for a week or two. Stuck with only the SX payload (but the SX bootmenu can chainload any other payload)

SX Pro has one SX OS license built in, SX Gear has none.

- NS Atmosphere and R4S both have batteries, so won't suddenly die on you.

NS Atmosphere uses its own flashing software to change payloads (but its a bit buggy supposedly)

R4S uses uf2 files.



Nope. It doesn't have the basic functionality of HOLDING A CHARGE. It's useless for AutoRCM users on the go. You have to charge it EVERYTIME you have to use it.

I think there's a version of RCMloader that uses a battery, but I might be remembering wrong.

RCMLoader is an AceNS clone or vise versa or I dunno

Vice versa

 

[bundat]

I think there's a version of RCMloader that uses a battery, but I might be remembering wrong.

Have you seen all the posts I quoted here?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/xkits-rcm-clip-dongle-jig-is-10.518090/page-5#post-8343759

That thread is the main RCMLoader thread from what I can tell. It's not easy to find since it's not in the Switch forum section, but you can see the trainwreck it turned into after people started getting their dongles.

Too bad, Xkit had a GREAT rcm jig. Never expected their dongle to fail hard like this.

 

[Insane]

Vice versa

Thanks for clearing that up!


Also the right dongle depends on what you want. For everyday normal use: SX Dongle and NS-Atmosphere are really great.

To play around the RCM-Loader might be a good option, especially if you have a power bank with you. But then you can also use your PC for playing around...

 

[Insane]

Plus you know guys: just forget what I said about r4s. Thanks to @mattytrog 's post here: https://gbatemp.net/threads/basic-m...oot-files-trinket-rebug-rcmx86-others.518574/ we only need to flash the R4S once (same with NS-atmosphere) and can boot any start.bin file on the SD... basically TX Style

 

[larrypretty]

One that hasn't been mentioned here is RCMloader, it seems to be the cheapest, about the same functionality as everything else so not a bad option to go for. I think it supports multiple built in payloads as well.

I think it's exactly the AceNS.

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The primary thing you need to know are THE DONGLES TO AVOID.

• Lightblue chinese dongle: stuck with only Hekate 3.2 payload. WORST dongle

• RCMLoader/XKit/AceNS: CANNOT HOLD A CHARGE. Even after charging to "full", it will lose its charge in less than an hour, and be completely dead. Trash capacitors. An AutoRCM Switch tht has crashed CANNOT recharge it.

---

Anyway, other than those dongles, everything else is usable as is and works fine.

- SX Gear/Pro - uses capacitors, charges in 5-10 seconds, good for a few injects. Retains the charge for a week or two. Stuck with only the SX payload (but the SX bootmenu can chainload any other payload)

SX Pro has one SX OS license built in, SX Gear has none.

- NS Atmosphere and R4S both have batteries, so won't suddenly die on you.

NS Atmosphere uses its own flashing software to change payloads (but its a bit buggy supposedly)

R4S uses uf2 files.



Nope. It doesn't have the basic functionality of HOLDING A CHARGE. It's useless for AutoRCM users on the go. You have to charge it EVERYTIME you have to use it.

Maybe you can explaint uf2 files to me?

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Thanks for clearing that up!


Also the right dongle depends on what you want. For everyday normal use: SX Dongle and NS-Atmosphere are really great.

To play around the RCM-Loader might be a good option, especially if you have a power bank with you. But then you can also use your PC for playing around...

I just want to install SX OS, and also if possible try other free CFWs.