Weed: Yay or Nay?

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I think what happened on monday was that a bill was proposed which would completely legalize pot in California if passed. Not even sure if it was on monday, but no, it's certainly not legal there yet.

Personally, I'm all for legalization. If the prohibition works out in any way, then how comes anyone who wants to smoke weed can obtain some in a matter of minutes pretty much anywhere on the map? Legalization wouldn't mean that people are all of a sudden encouraged to smoke pot, yet it would make things so much easier for everyone. It's just incredible how much money is wasted on making sure people don't sell/buy something that should never have been illegal in the first place, and completely failing at doing so. At the same time the government is missing out on billions of dollars in taxes and, well, are pretty much the source of drug-related criminalism. It's them who created it, not the consumers or dealers. Just what the hell is the point?
And part of why pot is dangerous is because you never know what's in it if you buy it on the street. It could be laced with any other shit anyone could think of, and boom, there you go, "pot"-induced psychosis. I'm not saying pot is completely harmless, but the real danger lies in not having any quality control. Recently there have been several cases here in germany of pot being impured with fucking plumbum. But yeah, it's all the user's fault, how dare they deciding for themselves what to consume?

Also, instead of broadcasting bullshit propaganda and make-believe on TV and trying to scare people with fairytales, how about using the money to educate people about the actual cons of smoking pot? Offering them ways out of their habit/addiction, where they get treated as regular people with problems instead of criminals who should fear for their freedom?
You think stoners would spend all day at home if they had the possibility to enjoy their weed somewhere else without having to hide from pretty much everyone else?
Oh, and of course pot is the only drug that makes you lazy. Alcohol? Anti-depressants? Benzodiazepines? Countless of other prescription drugs? What are those?
And where lies the difference between being lazy by nature, or deciding to smoke pot and being lazy as a result?
In both cases it's the person's own decision and his own fault. It's not like after using pot once or twice you still don't know it makes you sit in your couch and being unproductive for the next 3 hours or so. And it's not like pot fucks you up so badly you won't be able to do anything for the rest of the day.
Has anyone ever heard of some stoner turning blind from smoking too much pot, being chased by some scary green pot fairy that drove him crazy, or cutting off one of his ears in order for his dealer to give him another ounce of weed? No? Then how can it be possible that absinthe has been made legal again while pot is still illegal? And the demand for absinthe wasn't even that big, while legal pot would give the economy of any country where it's been legalized a huge boost.

If you're concerned that your kids might start smoking weed because some evil, evil dealer convinced them to, then it's your own fucking fault as a parent. Just like it's your obligation as a parent to make sure your kids don't play violent games or watch pornos or kill each other, it's your obligation to make sure kids won't start smoking. Going after the dealers instead won't do ANYTHING, promised.
And going after the users, for WHATEVER reason, is just wrong. Just HOW could ANYONE justify to put peope in jail for several months or even years, just because they possessed a bag of weed for their own consumption? How? Just go ahead and try to find any legit justification for that, and I'm certain that justification can only be made of lots and lots of bullshit. You don't put people in jail if they cut off their limbs or survive an attempted suicide, so how could you put people in jail who do something a lot less worse?
Does anyone here who says pot shouldn't be legal for recreational purposes also believe people should be put in jail for buying alcohol? If so, what's the fucking difference between the two? I'm really looking forward to hearing some ridiculous explanations there.

All that aside, I like pot. I've been smoking it on a more or less regular basis for about two years now, and never experienced any serious problems with it. If I had homework or learning to do, I knew I couldn't get high. End of story. Why do certain people don't even take it into consideration that not every pot user can't control himself? Ever since I started smoking pot, I've been aware that it makes me really lazy while I'm high, but when I was not high, it didn't impact on my capability or social behaviour at all. Guess what? My grades in school only went up the hill after I started smoking pot. I'm not saying they were excellent, but before I smoked pot, they were really bad. There was a point in my life when I was a lot more lazy and less active than I am right now. And I'm totally not saying that all that was possible because of my weed consumption...I'm saying that this was possible in spite of my weed consumption. My grades didn't get better by smoking weed, they got better because I got off my ass and studied. There goes your propaganda.
But I'm also not saying that pot didn't benefit me at all. It helped me reflect on many parts of my life, see myself from the view of a different person, and thus really helped me understand how I appeared to others and how I could improve myself. It also made me a lot more patient, made me appreciate music and art a lot more, and of course it gave me a good time a lot of times. Am I a criminal for that? Should I be put in jail now, just because the drug I like to consume happens to be discriminated against by many governments and societies for whatever reasons that will never, ever make any sense?
damn I couldn't even read it all

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Vater Unser WINS THE THREAD.
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Mr.Mister said:
Vater Unser WINS THE THREAD.
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Indeed he does, but he forgets that this bill/law/whatever it's called at this point cannot be used: Federal law is the supreme law of the land, meaning that anti-cannabis law reigns simply out of the fact that it's a federal law.

(Actually, I only skimmed it after a few paragraphs so if he mentioned this then "oops")
 

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Holaitsme said:
Dare is so full of crap. I mean they teach kids that alcohol and tobacco (at their age) are bad, but just look: when I was forced through their sieve in elementary school, they said NOTHING about cocaine, methamphetamine or anything!
 

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The reason that America is the top country in the world is that we know how to keep a civilized nation. If we legalize drugs, we would just be giving up...

Although with Obama being president, I wouldn't be too surprised if we fall near last...
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Nin10doFan said:
The reason that America is the top country in the world is that we know how to keep a civilized nation. If we legalize drugs, we would just be giving up...

Although with Obama being president, I wouldn't be too surprised if we fall near last...
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lol ignorant stereotypical response
lol then I check your age and you're fourteen

watch a documentary on cannabis. educate self.
 

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I voted YAY, even though I'm probably gonna have to quit soon, after our household just got hit hard by the economy, and I need to job hunt. Nin10doFan is, simply, a racist idiot. The United States of America is the top country in the world? Really, is this what TV and your parents said? Blind and ignorant patriotism at it's best. Also, legalizing pot WOULDN'T "make us less civilized", and it's no more a drug than alcohol is. Hey, atleast when you're high, you're not obnoxious and violent, you don't run over children driving home from the bar, you don't beat your wife and kids over forgetting to take the trash out(happened to us
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) because YOU'RE the drunk loser. Stoners get lazy, hungry, and at worst, fuck up their lungs. Cigarette smokers do it 10x faster, with their 2 pages of included chemicals, and noone really seems to mind about that. But GOD FORBID people smoke something, get lazy and cheerful, and sit around at their house. Those horrible, horrible criminals! `Rolls eyes.`

And I LOVE the stereotype about how, "people that smoke pot are losers." My Mom graduated top of her class, straight A's, raised in a nice moralistic and caring family. She's now a bartender, making less than minimum wage. My Dad was adopted, went through parents frequently, dropped out of school to join the Navy. Got through that at the top of the "class." He now lives in the suburbs, making far far FAR more money than my mom could dream of making. Here's the kicker, he's been a stoner since before he went into the Navy, so there goes that stereotype!

Holy shit, that turned into a wall of text.
 

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fuck yeah! personally, i think this poll should be limited to those who actually tried weed, and not little 12 year old kids who think they know they way the world works
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weed FTW

to those of you who think of the stereotype where only idiots, "gangsters", lowlifes and shit do weed, ur dead wrong. me for instance, i had a 94% average in gr.12, and currently in the best business school in canada. i can name u a few of my close friends that also have done it (in the same school as me). that's not to say we do it every day, but once in a while is cool
 

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I'm sure I've posted in this topic, but forgot all about it.
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Weed YAY in small doses, occasionally. A few tokes a week is great for me, keeps the mood elevated, and makes living life super fantastic.
 

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i am not an avid pot smoker (however i have smoked my fair share in the past) but i still think that legalizing would be a good idea. we're wasting way too much money trying to get rid of it, and legalizing it would give police more time to worry about bigger problems.
 

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Pot is ok so long as it doesn't interfere with your life.

Wait until you're 18 though, all the people I know who started smoking while young have had problems. Mind you these were the people smoking everyday, you'd probably be ok if it was a once a week thing.

I can't smoke it because it makes me way too lazy
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I'll have the occasional joint but that's it.
 

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14 years old? I feel so sorry for you, mate. You say it can't kill you. I know you're defending your horribly unhealthy habit, but by your definition, neither can a cigarette. You can't die of a weed overdose, but cancer may be on your horizon. I'm not even going to mention haw much tar you're putting into your body. (Oops, looks like I just did.) Stay on the stuff too much longer and your IQ is going to slowly start taking a dive. Statistically, you have a high probability of dropping out of school and possibly getting a low paying job, perhaps in hard labor. That is of course if you resist the temptation to try heroine or worse with your new found drug dealer friends. Than you probably won't be able to hold any job. Get help, man. Before your future pays for it.

But of course i can't make a complete serious post, so...

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QUOTE said:
Hey, atleast when you're high, you're not obnoxious and violent, you don't run over children driving home from the bar, you don't beat your wife and kids over forgetting to take the trash out(happened to us happy.gif)

My point exactly.
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Btw, I'm shocked that your from America saying this. From the Middle East, I'm used to, but America? You should be more civilized.
 

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Nay, at least for myself.

You see, I live by the rule of "live and let live". I'm a vegetarian, but I'll never try to convert anyone into vegetarianism or demonise meat-eaters. I don't drink alcoholic beverages, but I won't ever try to force others to think what I think. I don't believe in God, but I won't seek the approval of other people, nor try to debunk the ideas of those who believe. The same goes for drugs: as long as it doesn't bother or affect me directly, you may smoke, sniff or shoot up whatever you want.
 

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