I think what happened on monday was that a bill was proposed which would completely legalize pot in California if passed. Not even sure if it was on monday, but no, it's certainly not legal there yet.
Personally, I'm all for legalization. If the prohibition works out in any way, then how comes anyone who wants to smoke weed can obtain some in a matter of minutes pretty much anywhere on the map? Legalization wouldn't mean that people are all of a sudden encouraged to smoke pot, yet it would make things so much easier for everyone. It's just incredible how much money is wasted on making sure people don't sell/buy something that should never have been illegal in the first place, and completely failing at doing so. At the same time the government is missing out on billions of dollars in taxes and, well, are pretty much the source of drug-related criminalism. It's them who created it, not the consumers or dealers. Just what the hell is the point?
And part of why pot is dangerous is because you never know what's in it if you buy it on the street. It could be laced with any other shit anyone could think of, and boom, there you go, "pot"-induced psychosis. I'm not saying pot is completely harmless, but the real danger lies in not having any quality control. Recently there have been several cases here in germany of pot being impured with fucking plumbum. But yeah, it's all the user's fault, how dare they deciding for themselves what to consume?
Also, instead of broadcasting bullshit propaganda and make-believe on TV and trying to scare people with fairytales, how about using the money to educate people about the actual cons of smoking pot? Offering them ways out of their habit/addiction, where they get treated as regular people with problems instead of criminals who should fear for their freedom?
You think stoners would spend all day at home if they had the possibility to enjoy their weed somewhere else without having to hide from pretty much everyone else?
Oh, and of course pot is the only drug that makes you lazy. Alcohol? Anti-depressants? Benzodiazepines? Countless of other prescription drugs? What are those?
And where lies the difference between being lazy by nature, or deciding to smoke pot and being lazy as a result?
In both cases it's the person's own decision and his own fault. It's not like after using pot once or twice you still don't know it makes you sit in your couch and being unproductive for the next 3 hours or so. And it's not like pot fucks you up so badly you won't be able to do anything for the rest of the day.
Has anyone ever heard of some stoner turning blind from smoking too much pot, being chased by some scary green pot fairy that drove him crazy, or cutting off one of his ears in order for his dealer to give him another ounce of weed? No? Then how can it be possible that absinthe has been made legal again while pot is still illegal? And the demand for absinthe wasn't even that big, while legal pot would give the economy of any country where it's been legalized a huge boost.
If you're concerned that your kids might start smoking weed because some evil, evil dealer convinced them to, then it's your own fucking fault as a parent. Just like it's your obligation as a parent to make sure your kids don't play violent games or watch pornos or kill each other, it's your obligation to make sure kids won't start smoking. Going after the dealers instead won't do ANYTHING, promised.
And going after the users, for WHATEVER reason, is just wrong. Just HOW could ANYONE justify to put peope in jail for several months or even years, just because they possessed a bag of weed for their own consumption? How? Just go ahead and try to find any legit justification for that, and I'm certain that justification can only be made of lots and lots of bullshit. You don't put people in jail if they cut off their limbs or survive an attempted suicide, so how could you put people in jail who do something a lot less worse?
Does anyone here who says pot shouldn't be legal for recreational purposes also believe people should be put in jail for buying alcohol? If so, what's the fucking difference between the two? I'm really looking forward to hearing some ridiculous explanations there.
All that aside, I like pot. I've been smoking it on a more or less regular basis for about two years now, and never experienced any serious problems with it. If I had homework or learning to do, I knew I couldn't get high. End of story. Why do certain people don't even take it into consideration that not every pot user can't control himself? Ever since I started smoking pot, I've been aware that it makes me really lazy
while I'm high, but when I was not high, it didn't impact on my capability or social behaviour at all. Guess what? My grades in school only went up the hill after I started smoking pot. I'm not saying they were excellent, but before I smoked pot, they were really bad. There was a point in my life when I was a lot more lazy and less active than I am right now. And I'm totally not saying that all that was possible
because of my weed consumption...I'm saying that this was possible
in spite of my weed consumption. My grades didn't get better by smoking weed, they got better because I got off my ass and studied. There goes your propaganda.
But I'm also not saying that pot didn't benefit me at all. It helped me reflect on many parts of my life, see myself from the view of a different person, and thus really helped me understand how I appeared to others and how I could improve myself. It also made me a lot more patient, made me appreciate music and art a lot more, and of course it gave me a good time a lot of times. Am I a criminal for that? Should I be put in jail now, just because the drug
I like to consume happens to be discriminated against by many governments and societies for whatever reasons that will never, ever make any sense?
dinofan01 said:
silent sniper said:
dinofan01 said:
What the hell. Weed isn't legalized. Even if it was somehow legalized (which it isn't) its still illegal by federal law.
Well it's
being legalized, and by your logic, that mean's if it's legal in California, then it's illegal at the same time and they're going to arrest you for it? Use your head.
I'm guessing you don't know much about the government do you? State laws are different from federal laws. Something could be legal under state law and illegal under federal law. It just means the state won't regulate marijuana, the federal government will. And just because its being considered doesn't mean its going to be legalized. This has been considered before. And if the recent voting time has proven anything, its that California is alot more conservative then we think.
What you say is true, but as far as I know, dispensaries in California won't be raided anymore under the new federal government.
Besides, I never heard of any medical cannabis users getting busted in California. But then again, I don't live in California.
